[Anton123Participant]

So this year Mudiay went to play pro and is still mocked to go top 5 in this draft. If he had some financial problems in his family I’d say this was a terrific move for him as he got the money and in no way messed up his future prospects.

I think skipping college can be a really smart move for those players who need money right now, why would you waste a year or two of your life playing for free and getting low quality education (let’s face it, a minimal percentage of student  athletes learn anything in college) when you could get paid right away?

I bet some professional teams can also offer better health insurance and perhaps even a better coaching staff than many colleges. Sure, if things don’t work out – a player may be screwed, but I’m not sure 4 years of taking paper classes in UNC would have changed that much.

I really want to know what you guys think about this. Obviously there are many NCAA fans on this forum who, I suppose, would be completely against it, I’m just interested in hearing some opinions and arguments for and against this.

[ChewyParticipant]

 If you are good enough to have a choice that means you are going to a big time college program. It also means you probably are playing pretty well even though you are a freshman. So we can assume that you are basically a rock star on campus… parties, girls, fame. You will be on TV all the time and lastly you will forever be inducted into that school alumni pool. But no money, and if you do get money your reputation is tainted.

If you choose to go pro, you have to leave America. You will probably faced a big culture shock. You will start at the bottom of the roster and have to work your way up. Definetly not rock star treatment. (Didn’t Jennings barely play for his team?). But you are put on a pro basketball player’s schedule of eat sleep and breath basketball. No college classes bs. You also get paid.

Both routes have been proven that they can lead to the NBA. The big different for me is do you want money or fame?

 

 

[Lotto StudParticipant]

"Both routes have been proven that they can lead to the NBA. The big different for me is do you want money or fame?"

I appreciate that line! We never hear the words Love in Basketball anymore. Once compensation guides the locomotive; the purpose behind passion for the works become nonexistent.

 

[Lotto StudParticipant]

"Both routes have been proven that they can lead to the NBA. The big different for me is do you want money or fame?"

I appreciate that line! We never hear the words Love in Basketball anymore. Once compensation guides the locomotive; the purpose behind passion for the works become nonexistent.

 

[Anton123Participant]

I think this is a great point and I totally agree.

I would think that in the future more and more players from richer European families (Sabonis, for example) may come to play in the NCAA to get more exposure, recognition and just have a better time while they are 18-20, at the same time more American players from struggling families may choose to go pro.

If the D-League developed more it could be a nice alternative (it seemed to be taking steps in the right direction but this season has been a big dissapointment for me) to the NCAA for those who want to stay closer to home and not deal with the culture shock, but right now the D-league doesn’t appear to be an appealing option.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 Americans chase the "Almighty" $ign of greed, while the foreign exchange student opts for our educational system and prospers greatly off of what’s considered a once in a lifetime opportunity for being ungrateful Americans.

I am all for it. I hope we get a flight-flood of exchange students who are willing to play collegiate ball here for bettering themsleves as citizens within our downward-spiral economy, which 10/10 will make a bigger impact off the floor for endeavers around the world and not just for personal wealth. Eventually, the American greed will 360 our selfish players back to the university, once they see others capitalize on what is being squandered. What goes around comes back around.

I really would like to see a foreign exchange snag outside of Gonzaga’s pipeline. Maybe more prestigious programs take a leap in recruiting across the water. John Calipari’s, Enes Kanter experiment failed, so I doubt he will give it another shot any time soon. 

 

[Anton123Participant]

I don’t think that’s the right way to look at it. If I were a terrific basketball player and my family was living in poverty, going to a university so that it could make big chunks of money off of me while not giving me anything would just be almost selfish.

I don’t see how going overseas undermines your love for the game, you can play your heart out in Spain, Greece or China for fans just as or even more passionate than college fans. I think if you risk your health and play hard while your family really needs some money, you should be expected to get compensated for that. It’s not greed, it’s common sense.

Calipari has already gotten Tai Wynyard, doesn’t that count?

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 You are on track. The money doesn’t last forever. In the case of former Syracuse one-and-done talent, Donte Greene was noted for saying that he left to become the bread-winner for his household. I haven’t pocket watched his salary but his skill could have landed him a lot more in financial security to still be in the NBA if his passion was there.

At the end of the day, we all have the same 24 hrs on the clock each day. It’s no one else’s decision to make for the indiviual who see’s past the present day. For me to say this, I am not mad at anyone who chooses either route, because I know each circumstance is different but all in the same for a common goal to a degree. Stability and longevity to pass down assets for making someone else’s path a breeze. When it boils down to my initial aim, what we as Americans take for granted, others outside the country view everything we have as treasures. 

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 You are on track. The money doesn’t last forever. In the case of former Syracuse one-and-done talent, Donte Greene was noted for saying that he left to become the bread-winner for his household. I haven’t pocket watched his salary but his skill could have landed him a lot more in financial security to still be in the NBA if his passion was there.

At the end of the day, we all have the same 24 hrs on the clock each day. It’s no one else’s decision to make for the indiviual who see’s past the present day. For me to say this, I am not mad at anyone who chooses either route, because I know each circumstance is different but all in the same for a common goal to a degree. Stability and longevity to pass down assets for making someone else’s path a breeze. When it boils down to my initial aim, what we as Americans take for granted, others outside the country view everything we have as treasures. 

[Anton123Participant]

I don’t think that’s the right way to look at it. If I were a terrific basketball player and my family was living in poverty, going to a university so that it could make big chunks of money off of me while not giving me anything would just be almost selfish.

I don’t see how going overseas undermines your love for the game, you can play your heart out in Spain, Greece or China for fans just as or even more passionate than college fans. I think if you risk your health and play hard while your family really needs some money, you should be expected to get compensated for that. It’s not greed, it’s common sense.

Calipari has already gotten Tai Wynyard, doesn’t that count?

[Lotto StudParticipant]

 Americans chase the "Almighty" $ign of greed, while the foreign exchange student opts for our educational system and prospers greatly off of what’s considered a once in a lifetime opportunity for being ungrateful Americans.

I am all for it. I hope we get a flight-flood of exchange students who are willing to play collegiate ball here for bettering themsleves as citizens within our downward-spiral economy, which 10/10 will make a bigger impact off the floor for endeavers around the world and not just for personal wealth. Eventually, the American greed will 360 our selfish players back to the university, once they see others capitalize on what is being squandered. What goes around comes back around.

I really would like to see a foreign exchange snag outside of Gonzaga’s pipeline. Maybe more prestigious programs take a leap in recruiting across the water. John Calipari’s, Enes Kanter experiment failed, so I doubt he will give it another shot any time soon. 

 

[Anton123Participant]

I think this is a great point and I totally agree.

I would think that in the future more and more players from richer European families (Sabonis, for example) may come to play in the NCAA to get more exposure, recognition and just have a better time while they are 18-20, at the same time more American players from struggling families may choose to go pro.

If the D-League developed more it could be a nice alternative (it seemed to be taking steps in the right direction but this season has been a big dissapointment for me) to the NCAA for those who want to stay closer to home and not deal with the culture shock, but right now the D-league doesn’t appear to be an appealing option.

[ChewyParticipant]

 If you are good enough to have a choice that means you are going to a big time college program. It also means you probably are playing pretty well even though you are a freshman. So we can assume that you are basically a rock star on campus… parties, girls, fame. You will be on TV all the time and lastly you will forever be inducted into that school alumni pool. But no money, and if you do get money your reputation is tainted.

If you choose to go pro, you have to leave America. You will probably faced a big culture shock. You will start at the bottom of the roster and have to work your way up. Definetly not rock star treatment. (Didn’t Jennings barely play for his team?). But you are put on a pro basketball player’s schedule of eat sleep and breath basketball. No college classes bs. You also get paid.

Both routes have been proven that they can lead to the NBA. The big different for me is do you want money or fame?

 

 

[Rip255]

As for International Pipeline into the NCAA. 

I think theres more international guys going to college now than there ever has been. There is 60 Australain players in NCAA Division 1 who go to America for a quality education & experience, with a further 15 or so committed to next season including several for major programs. This includes Jonah Bolden at UCLA, Ben Simmons at LSU and Deng Adel at Louisville. 

St Marys also has a pipeline to Australian players with guys like Patty Mills, Dellavedova playing pro, and 5 Aussies currently committed/playing. 

 

[Rip255]

As for International Pipeline into the NCAA. 

I think theres more international guys going to college now than there ever has been. There is 60 Australain players in NCAA Division 1 who go to America for a quality education & experience, with a further 15 or so committed to next season including several for major programs. This includes Jonah Bolden at UCLA, Ben Simmons at LSU and Deng Adel at Louisville. 

St Marys also has a pipeline to Australian players with guys like Patty Mills, Dellavedova playing pro, and 5 Aussies currently committed/playing. 

 

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