More Food from the Crow....Would the OKC Thunder trade their 1st rounders for Micheal Beasley...
Before the minuses come rolling in...Let me start by saying that I'm a little under whelmed by how M.Beasley's career has gone so far...more of the whole rehab twitter thing then the on court out put he gives you...Lets face it while not blowing everyone's mind... Beasley has had a servicable career..not 20/10 but in that system with Wade taking a lot of shots he has only been able to get his 15 point and 7 rebs..yes he could be rebounding more but has a guy known for scoring he's also looking get the ball more too...The Heat have not been impressed with him and with their whole roster minus Beasley,Cook,Chalmers and Jones is off the books...Wade resigning to a team with only Beasley is not happening...The Thunder own multiple 1st round picks and don't really need 3 rookies on their roster...They have lots of cash for this summer and could land a prime time free agent straight up or thru Sign and Trade...Also..Kevin Durant and Michael Beasley are said to be good friends...bringing Beasley over to OKC for the ride to fan favorites status can be done at little cost...The picks they'd get would be role players or projects at best the first year or two..why not trade them to Heat who could use 3 bodies in training camp with hopes that they pan out and give them a new young core to run With Wade and Co.
Right now Beasley isnt that much better then Green....Green isnt as talented as Beasley is..But he plays with much more passion then Beasley...Beasley if he was willing to work on his game he could easily be a nightly double-double guy.How about Harden for Love
i wouldn't take beasley if i got him for free.
the thunder have something good right now, absolutely no reason to risk rocking the boat now.
besides, even if you look oncourt, another undersized 4-man is not what the thunder need right now.
im not here to make friends and u shouldnt either, i could careless if ignorant people dont get what im trying to get across i dont hate teams or players or people i just hate philosophies if u disagree with that then i can give a crap but if u dont get what im saying dont give me a minuses for giving u my opinion on ur stupid idea "we talking bout minuses, not a game, not a game, minuses"
Beasley going to OKC? they already have a player playing his position and the fans love him why would the GM, coach, anyone mess with what the fans want for that team? if i was Beasley i would try and shed off a couple of pounds and present my self as a small forward he just isnt big enough compared to 7ft 6'11 powerforwards... Miami should re-sign him because im sure they arent gonna pick up another developing player like him unless they gamble
Absolutely not, that team has great chemistry and Beasley is not a great teammate (generous) and is almost always just looking to score and doesn't fit in anywhere. And at $5 mil he's relatively expensive, and that would cut into their funds to try to sign or acquire a legit center.
Scarecrow, I like your idea man. You trying to redeem yourself. Beasley potential is off the charts and being around Durant should push him to be even greater. He does not necessarily fix their big man issues but he is better than anything they can get with those picks. I think people do not realize how good Beasley is going to be and also how much the Heat's offense crippled him. All that other stuff aside having a friend to support you should help him avoid a lot of drama.
The Thunder need a defensive-minded big man. They should draft either Solomon Alabi or Daniel Orton. Or possibly both if available.
Beasley doesn't provide the versatility that Green does, and I'm assuming that Jeff Green would be who you think they'll have to part with to get Beasley. Beasley would either take shots away from Durant, which is definitely not needed, or Durant and Westbrook are gonna take a good deal of Beasley's shots. He'd be in the same exact situation as he was in in Miami in the 2nd scenario. Beasley doesn't really fit for OKC, plus they have other needs that should be addressed. He needs shots to be effective, and OKC already has guys that are gonna take a good deal of shots. They need to try and aquire defensive-minded players as they already have enough scorers and offensive-minded players.
daniel orton is defensive minded? i thought he was the exact opposite. and what is that based on he averaged 1 rebound a game and like 1 point
Yea, Daniel Orton actually has the most value as a prospect on D. He averaged 1.4 bpg in 13 mpg, has a wide and strong body, and has decent footwork. I have a hard time seeing Orton getting backed down alot in the NBA with his feet and physical tools. It's not going to be pretty offensively, but he should be a good post defender. He's going to likely have a similar role to Erick Dampier, Kwame Brown, or Etan Thomas. All of whom are good defensive players man-to-man in the post.
I agree that Jeff Green should be traded as I see him as a backup SF/PF, and the Thunder need a defensive minded PF or C. I would like them to trade Green but to get Beasley who is another SF/PF guy would be dumb. I love the idea of drafting Orton or Alabi, but I think they need an immediate presence on defense, maybe a trade for Samuel Dalembert who is in the last year of his contract.
It doesn't matter about Beasly's size because at the end of the day it come's down putting up number's. If Beasly is will to put in the work, get better and stop with the BS, and focus on basketball i think that where ever he goes he'll be a big deal to have for years to come.
First of all, if the Thunder are making any moves, it's through the draft, not free agency or player swapping. Second, Sam Presti said in a news article that he wants to remind people that the Thunder are not, I repeat NOT, trying to win now. Their goal this year was about 30-40 wins, and just because they made the playoffs does not sway his thoughts. Also, because he wants a team to to be a prennial winner for years to come, he is ok with taking project/raw players like Orton, Sanders, Mullens last year, and Ibaka the year before. Also, they like the improvement Byron Mullens is making this offseason, according to NBA.com
Why aren't they trying to win now?
And I think Presti would pull the trigger on this deal because he'd get a top 2 pick for picks in the 20's...Swelton said it right when he said that Beasley is still young and has tons of potential...he's the example of what happens when you have a star player that really want you there taking the shots...KD and Mike Beastley have a bond and would feed off each other well...The Thunder dont have a second option yet...Beasley would be that...I think Green is a fine player...great overall game...But to me he's a 6th man for the Thunder...They want a Big Free agent power forward...but lets be serious that may not happen...OKC is still a small market team in the eyes of the star players in the League...They have KD(who's a star already) in place...Green will want the big money soon...time to start gauging his value at his true position as invalueable 6th man...Since you might not get a star PF...why not trade some Late 1st rounders for a potential star in Beasley...a guy who has a good relationship with your star player...not to mention there aint much trouble to get into around OKC....
I can tell you haven't been to OKC,you talk like we are still riding horses and buggies and we are not!!! There are still bars and big clubs like every other city has, but that's beside the point. The thunder don't want to win now because Presti is not trying to build a one winning season team like an Orlando or Boston with older players who won't be around in years to come. Everybody is young andstill developing, even Kevin Durant is and I have noticed areas inhis game that he needs more work on like passing, ballhandling and defense as well as strength to work in the paint. They don't want to force players intoa position none opfthemare ready for. You saw them in the playoffs. They started off like they didn't belong there and they and they are still veryyoung. The GM doesn't want to push these guys out into something none ofthem know about they are not mentally ready. That'swhy James Harden didn't start. They didn't want toput that kind odf pressure on a rookie to come in and be a 3rd option yet. They are about to gwet younger because theior 2 oldest players are FAs.
What is wrong with OKC moving picks for Beasley? I mean if there was a great Center prospect I could see and how would Beasley be a problem. Durant is his buddy. OKC team is pretty close knit. Miami was not a good place for Beasley and yet he still put up decent numbers and improved his defense. You put Green or Beasley off the Bench. OKC would have a lot of fire power. There is actually no one in the draft where OKC is picking that I view as light years better than Mullens and Ibaka. Those player out there could be a good fit but to me Beasley is a sure thing. We know how good he is and his potential is unlimited.
Also if you look at Durant's development Beasley is not really that far off as people think. I think he is maybe off by a year mainly because of how Miami is. Durant will help him get over the slump. Beasley is skilled enough to almost be able to duplicate everything Durant can do. Miami needs cheap bodies if they are after 2 or 3 max guys and late draft pick are fairly cheap or could be moved for early 2nd rounders who are very valuable.