Monroe or Cousins
What are the odds of Monroe getting drafted ahead of Cousins?
Im going to say 15% Monroe goes before Cousins. He would be better fit for a few select teams.
Cousins won't go later than 5 more than likely and Monroe isn't targeted by any top 5 teams, Monroe has a slim to none chance of going higher than Cousins IMO.
Isn't Sacramento high on Monroe?
Possibly, but would think they'd want Cousins over Monroe
Neither Hawes or Thompson have the gerth or mentality to bang with the best bigs down low and Cousins is more equipped to de so over Monroe so you'd think if the Kings go big Cousins should be the guy. Some sports franchises value character more then others, so for some reason if the Kings red flagged Cousins then I could see Monroe being their selection. This draft has dozens of quality NBA players in it
people say that almost every year. the reality of it is only a handful of these guys are going to be starters and no more than one dozen (not dozens) will be in the league over 4 years (which I believe is the avg NBA carrer length). Of the dozen that make it probably 7 or 8 max will be "quality nba players". I actually think this year is weaker than most years (my opinion). As an example, Paul George, that guy might end up being a beast in the league or at least a nice 6 man, but there is a guy like that every year that ends up 2 years later in Europe. Anyway, thats my 2 cents, you could be right
Wall, Turner, Favors, W. Johnson, Cousins, Monroe, Babbit, George, Aminu, Aldrich, A Bradley, X Henry, James Anderson, Udoh, D James, D Jones, Stanley Robinson, Bledsoe, Eliiot Williams
not quite 2 dozen more like 20 players I see that can contribute to a team day in and day out for years to come.
I left out guys like Hayward, Ed Davis, Whiteside, Orton, Terrico White and more because I either not sold on their game or dont know enough about them.
you see in this draft?
I honestly think that Minnesota will take Cousins & probably ship Jefferson, then Sacremento will take Monroe.
You honestly think there will only be a dozen players from this draft in the nba? you also forgot top factor how many undrafted players tried to make it. There will be AT LEAST 20 players definitely.
At what point do you call a player a bust? I'd say anyone taken outside the lottery isnt necessarily expected to contribute as a starter or the team is drafting on pure potential, which if thats the case shouldnt be considered a bust.
I say I'd agree with your top 11 and I would add Ed Davis and maybe D James.
I think X Henry, James Anderson, D Jones and Stanley Robinson are rated too high in most peoples boards.
I'm not even willing to concede New Jersey won't grab Cousins. Between his minutes at Kentucky and the fact that he measured out as having 16 percent body fat, I don't think anyone can expect Cousins to be a big minutes guy early on. I am quite certain that he would wreck havoc on opposing second unit big men off the bench. The other thing to take note of is that despite being heavier than ideal - to be nice- he is not a bad athlete, so that is only going to improve when he gets in better shape. One cannot argue that having a Lopez-Cousins pairing on the floor would be drastically different from when Boston goes with Perkins and Davis in terms of bulk and athleticism. The offense output, however, would be incredible because over 48 minutes it would be incredibly draining to a front court to have to deal with an offense being run through those two. I do not have a problem with Favors, I actually like his potential, but there is a guy just like him in every single draft. A team can always find 6'10/long/athletic/needs polish. Guys like Cousins are fewer and farther between. I trust Avery Johnson as a teacher, and think that he is better prepared to handle a young guy like Cousins who will have his growing pains.
Monroe won't fall far, but Cousins is more intriguing. An offense can be run through Monroe, but where he would get the ball depends on the matchup. The strength of Cousins guarantees a post threat in every game. Regardless, the decision makers from 5-7 are Petrie, Nellie, and Dumars. I don't want to see anyone land in Golden State, but there is a track record with all three of them that they hold skilled big men in high regard. Two picks later is Utah and possibility of a ten year run of Williams-Monroe on the pick-and-roll.
not great i think because all teams that draft before the clips and jazz will be looking to draft for upside and that´s where cousins is regarded better.
teams that could consider not going with upside but with the more sure thing (monroe) are on the clock so late that will possibly be away if teams do the right thing.
i mean even if SAC is high on monroe would he be the difference maker to turn them around that they need? i think the answer is no (with all teams down to the clips pick). so youre looking at the decison between drafting the better player that doesnt help you to really get better or gamble on the upside player and hope he maxes his potential and then really makes you much better.
just to not get hated because of the clips statement: i don´t think they should go for any big i just put them as the first team to possibly be talented enough to go with the solid and not the upside guy!!!!
I dont think there is any question about who should go higher Monroe or Cousins. Aside from his questionable attitude there is no comparion....Cousins is much better now and has more potential. Monroe isnt that athletic, isnt a banger, doesnt have a great motor. While I think he'll be ok because he's a savvy enough player I think you got to go with Cousins over Monroe.
I love the imaginary bad motor of Greg Monroe. Top 15 in the Big East in scoring, assists, and blocks while finishing second in rebounding on a top 25 team from which he is the only NBA prospect.
Man, imagine if he tried or was athletic.
There is no way that Avery Johnson has a say in the matter that he will go for Cousins. Avery is a discipline guy and Cousins is the polar opposite. Besides they have a Center and niether of them can play PF