Memphis is not that Cheap - TRADE NEWS
Clippers send Zach Randolph to Grizzlies
The Clippers have agreed to trade power forward Zach Randolph to the Grizzlies in exchange for Quentin Richardson, according to the Los Angeles Times.
The move allows L.A. to clear space for No. 1 draft pick Blake Griffin while unloading Randolph's contract, which pays $33.3 million over the next two seasons. Richardson's deal expires next summer, giving the Clippers financial flexibility to pursue 2010's bumper crop of free agents. The deal won't be official until July 8th.
well....atleast the 4 is complete....i definitly would have preferred giving lee a nice contract....
I think this is a good move for both teams. Say what you want about Randolph, but the dude can still get it done on the court. The Grizz will be a much more competitive team next year. The Clips clear salary and miutes while getting back a guy who will come off the books at the end of the season.
randolph, arthur, carrol
gasol, thabeet, haddadi
Dumb Deal. Memphis adds a Cancer who take some cap space away from them to resign Gay in 2010...yay?
Solid move. Q-Rich back in LAC is solid and it gives LAC more cap space to add Durant in 2011 ( dont tell noone) Now, they will need to move Davis' contract
"Don't tell noone" hahahaha. I like this deal both ways only because Memphis is in need of a four and if Randolph could stay on his best behavior then who knows...a Young Team who could surprise some people. What's your source?
i just have some hope randolph changes himself. no garuntee's. new team. starter spot. playing time. maybe he'll change. i still would've enjoyed lee at the 4 about 1,000 times more.
memphis will put up with him for a year. then hopefuly they can find a way to trade his expiring deal away and create cap for gay-resign.
Randolph might be a cancer, but he will help them on the court, and if it does'nt work, I believe he only has 2 years left on his deal. The Grizz were gonna have trouble atracting any good free agents without having to seriously overpay anyways. I think this is a solid move for them and it should'nt hurt their ability to resign their own talent.
the Grizlies are loaded with scorers now, but it will hurt them long term.
as a Knick fan...we gave him PT and all that. Unless you bring in a tough coach, he will not change
OK Memphis went from being cheap to still kinda cheap & stupid....Randolph is getting paid way too much $$$$ Once again the Grizzlies will be in the early lottery..mark my words. They should've gone after someone who actually wants to win like David Lee or at least Big Baby. Stupid Move IMO
i'm not completely disapointed. i'm not enthused either. needs in the offseason were addressed but nothing special.
i expect between 28-40 wins. if it came anywhere near 40...it'd be because gay, mayo and conely finally broke out.
the salaries dont add up
Randolph makes $14.6 mill
QRich makes $8.6 mill
maybe theres some other pieces(buckner and mihm?) (jaric)
has plenty of cap space
because memphis has a bunch of open cap. it worked out.
I'm not sure, but I think if the grizz were far enough under the cap, then they could take back more salary then they gave up. Even with this trade, I believe they are still under the cap.
Surely the Grizzlies were able to unload either Buckner or Jaric too, if they were then this makes the trade a lot better for Memphis
thanks guys...im a knicks fan so im not used to the under the cap trade situations
there must be a big plan for the huge summer coming. all i can hope is gasol gay and mayo are definitly with the team at the start of 10-11
Zack Randolph will prob have good stats next season, but I don't see how he helps the team in the long run. The pieces just dont match up, Randolph and Gasol are good half court players that can space the floor while Gay, Mayo, and Conley are better suited for an up tempo game. I don't think it is a terrible move considering they need more low post scoring and rebounding but it does take away some of the financial flexability to resign their core youngsters long term.
I think they would have been better off making a push for Lee, or simply resigning Warrick and waiting until 2010 where the draft and Free agency are loaded with quality PF to choose from.
That helps Memphis because Randolph will still give you 20pg and 10reb. He will fit in with that group if he wants too. Memphis became a better team with this move, because they needed a guy who could score on the block. Lee does not have the post game that Randolph has, to require double teams.
I think with adding Thabeet and Randolph to go along with Gasol down low, the Grizz could probably forget about being an uptempo team.
lol yeah....they are better off playing in slow motion haha
Thabeet could play uptempo... Randolph and Gasol not so much haha. It's a shame because with the backcourt speed they have and the athleticism of Gay.... and 20 and 10 looks really good until you factor in the lack of defense the combination of Randolph and Gasol leaves in the frontcourt. Hopefully Thabeet can factor in the rotation early to help out defending the rim
I guess this means they won't be giving an offer to Millsap!
I think both conley and Gay are much better suited for uptempo basketball. Mayo could play either way. But the bigs will definitely slow them down, unless that demare carrol guy can steal minutes from randolph.
This deal buy Memphis some time to develop another 4 while Randolph put ups 20 and 10. Also next year there are some great big men in the draft. It is a risk but maybe their coach can work it out. They are not expected to do much so if they can just be competitive people may wait on them. Who knows they may sign Iverson and move Mayo to PG while conley comes off the bench. Memphis is showing that they can shake things up. This is a big gamble though because Randolph could become a problem if he does not see a future here.
The clippers need to trade chris kaman in order to have some space for blake griffin here's the line up for the clippers in my opinion
is a center splittng time with camby.
There are not many takers for Kaman maybe next offseason there will be.
Chris Wallace has to be the dumbest GM in the NBA. Sure Randolph can play, but his teams never win. Look how much Portland improved after they dumped him. You just added a slow, overpaid, ball hogging cancer to join an emerging young team. They would have been much better off just overpaying David Lee. I agree with whoever was surprised that the trade was one for one. I can't believe that the Grizzlies couldn't have moved one of their bad contracts. Oh well, the cool thing is that Blake Griffin gets to start next year.
memphis trade is not all bad.knicks was'nt about to let lee get away.also millsap will stay with jazz.both are restricted free agents with there teams.it would have been just like last year with smith from atlanta.they would match other teams offer.this trade is alot better than the darko trade grizz made.now go get nate robinson and enjoy the upcoming season.good lcuck grizz.
Why would the Clips want to trade Kaman he's only 27, leaves you with only Camby, Griffin, Jordan as your bigs. Clips aren't likely to sign a lot of big name free agents next summer. Grizzlies I can see why they traded for Randolph neither Gasol or Thabeet will score much you need another big down low. They will still have some money left to go after a free agent next year too. Knicks not keeping Lee unless someone takes Jeffries or Curry's contract of their hands. If Villaneuva gets 35-40 mill Lee will probably get around 50 mill.
This is a good deal for both Memphis & the Clippers. If anything, it's probably a better deal for Memphis. They only gave up Q for a 20 & 10 power forward lol... Not to mention he's only 27 years old.
Randolph has his issues, but you can't deny his talent... He can score & rebound with the best of em. He can post you up, face you up & shoot the J... Soft ass hands around the basket. He doesn't play good D unless extremely motivated & he can be a ball hog at times, but like I said... This is a good pick-up for Memphis. One thing people don't know, is he's a really coo dude. He's a good teammate.
Can you please find a better way to describe Zach Randolph's hands?
The lineup sounds nice. But Randolph probably won't be happy being the third offensive option. I'm sure Mayo & Gay will still remain the go to guys. He's got a bad enough attitude already, so if he's going to be denied the ball and some points, he will only cause unbalance amongst the team. And yes, as others have said, he's severely overpaid. I have to say I kind of like Richardson going back to the Clippers. He pretty much played his best ball there. He can probably find his way into a rotation again.
looks like they're finally making bright decisions this year by throwing out Randolph's blistering contract and crappy attitude. q-rich has his best years in LA, so good for him too. my concern is that Q doesn't shoot very straight, he averages 39% field goals for his career, and if he's gonna be their 6th man he's gonna fire and miss alot of shots.
How dare I say it, but it seems like the Clippers might be halfway on the right track.
now they have TOO MUCH scoring, definitely the least of their problems. i think they were even in top 10 n scoring if I'm not mistaken?
but now adding Z-Bo to the Grizz takes away touches from Mayo, Gay, and even Conley who is more of a scoring point guard. we know he gonna take his 17 shots per game, and even worse taken them away from their core young players.
Zach can put up great numbers but he will take alot of shots away from Mayo and Gay. I guarantee both of their scoring numbers drop next year. He has never seen a shot he doesnt like. Memphis fans will get used to him jab-stepping at 20 feet then throwing up a contested shot. Interestingly though, thats his best shot. He does hustle at times and at least the Grizzlies have Thabeet to guard the rim because not very interested in D. He pulls down alot of boards and puts in alot of buckets. I think the Grizzlies just went from being a promising young team, to an experiment waiting to fail. They could have signed Lee who wouldve possibly pushed them into the Playoffs race.
lol butidont... at it again with the hands comment. where is the accompanying photo?
it's ironic that the title of this post is that they are being cheap, but i just read an article on TRUEHOOP: first cup, that said that they are being cheap in the grand scheme of things... instead of going after someone with a long-term deal~ maybe like 50 million total commitment, they only committed 33 million, and part of that is offset by getting rid of QRich's contract so they're saving like 25 million in the long-term, making them cheap-asses once again.
I like Greg Monroe as the PF on this team. I think he'd be a good fit cuz he's unselfish.
Mayo and Gay will take touches away from Zach, which will be the bigger issue than him taking touches from them.
too much scoring? really? at almost 94ppg? that was bottom 10.
if anything, randolph will allow more looks for conely, mayo and gay.
i hope gasol's a 15ppg and 11rpg like i figure he'll be.
i'd like to see mayo and gay as allstars this year...we'll see about that.
i dont get it,they trade darko to ny to get q.richardson and then they trade richardson to clipps and get this huge 2 year contract for a player who is a cancer for any team he plays,at least in memphis is a sure starter,maybe he chill himself.
but my point is,they have one expiring contract,a desire for a lot of teams,especialy ny.why not work a sing and trade with david lee(cheaper and with better chemistry than randolph)and q.richardson since the beggining(both make same money than randolph).NY are going to loose lee anyway and they dump richardsons contract.
or even better,they could sing lee,something around 40 to 50mill-5 years and then use darko´s expiring and the rest of the cap space to get some player,but then again their prefer to go cheaper.
i personally see lee fitting better than randolph.cause is younger and more unselfish.
anyway,i hope it works for memphis but the truth is that with the exception of the trade for mayo i dont like any move by grizz since pau´s trade.