[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

Reported to have resigned with a max deal.

I really wanted to see him in Chicago..

[torukParticipant]

Source?

[durantula621Participant]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/carmelo-return-knicks-win-new-york-article-1.1860680

[durantula621Participant]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/carmelo-return-knicks-win-new-york-article-1.1860680

[torukParticipant]

Source?

[IhateusernamesParticipant]

 All over twitter. He better not complain about the talent around him

[IhateusernamesParticipant]

 All over twitter. He better not complain about the talent around him

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

Melo obviously doesn’t care about winning about  winning anything in his career.  If he did, he would’ve signed with the Bulls who have an elite coach in Thibs.  With no head-coaching experience on any level Fish coming in and a train wreck of a line-up, could be a long rest of his career for Melo in New York.  

[GrandmamaParticipant]

 Pretty tough to pass up an additional 30-35 million dollars, or whatever the amount is…I know it’s somewhere in that range.  And to think that Phil Jackson can’t build a winner is really selling one of the greatest basketball minds, Hubie Brown included of course, well short.  They have a lot of money coming of the books after the season.

 

Thibs is a tough, hard-nosed coach.  Something I don’t think Carmelo would respond to very well.  And they have Rose.  Maybe he doesn’t want to play 2nd fiddle next to Rose.

 

As to the rumors of teaming up with Lebron, there was no way in hell I ever thought he would want to do that.

 

Lakers….they are far enough away from winning as well.  Also would play 2nd fiddle next to Kobe.

[tuck243Participant]

Who will be a FA next year if K. Love goes to Cleveland and LA resigns with Portland?  It doesn’t make basketball sense to come back to the Knicks…  Also, last time we saw Phil his team was getting swept and blown the hell out of the playoffs…  He has his faults too…  Melo is one of my favorite players, but taking the max and staying in NYC is NOT what he said during this season…  He won’t be on a contender for least 2 seasons with this current roster…  So what’s the point?? 

[GrandmamaParticipant]

30+ million dollars is the point.  Maybe that supersedes playing for a contender.  Can’t fault him, that’s a lot of money.  And maybe he enjoys living in New York, being that he is also from New York.

[tuck243Participant]

That’s like saying Jordan from Brooklyn because he was born there…  

[tuck243Participant]

That’s like saying Jordan from Brooklyn because he was born there…  

[GrandmamaParticipant]

30+ million dollars is the point.  Maybe that supersedes playing for a contender.  Can’t fault him, that’s a lot of money.  And maybe he enjoys living in New York, being that he is also from New York.

[tuck243Participant]

Who will be a FA next year if K. Love goes to Cleveland and LA resigns with Portland?  It doesn’t make basketball sense to come back to the Knicks…  Also, last time we saw Phil his team was getting swept and blown the hell out of the playoffs…  He has his faults too…  Melo is one of my favorite players, but taking the max and staying in NYC is NOT what he said during this season…  He won’t be on a contender for least 2 seasons with this current roster…  So what’s the point?? 

[GrandmamaParticipant]

 Pretty tough to pass up an additional 30-35 million dollars, or whatever the amount is…I know it’s somewhere in that range.  And to think that Phil Jackson can’t build a winner is really selling one of the greatest basketball minds, Hubie Brown included of course, well short.  They have a lot of money coming of the books after the season.

 

Thibs is a tough, hard-nosed coach.  Something I don’t think Carmelo would respond to very well.  And they have Rose.  Maybe he doesn’t want to play 2nd fiddle next to Rose.

 

As to the rumors of teaming up with Lebron, there was no way in hell I ever thought he would want to do that.

 

Lakers….they are far enough away from winning as well.  Also would play 2nd fiddle next to Kobe.

[M-EazyParticipant]

Here goes this BS again. I hate reading this like in the same situatuion you would really lose $65 million by signing to the Bulls.  At the end of the day yes it’s basketball but it’s definitely a business first.  

[M-EazyParticipant]

Here goes this BS again. I hate reading this like in the same situatuion you would really lose $65 million by signing to the Bulls.  At the end of the day yes it’s basketball but it’s definitely a business first.  

[tuck243Participant]

 Where are you getting your numbers from?  Also, don’t call what I’m saying BS…  Melo went on record saying what he was willing to do, not me…  "I already have money" is what he said, and I’m sure a sign and trade would be in the works to get him close to that max deal regardless of whatever team he chose to go to…  The Cavs still did it for LeBron to get to the Heat even though Gilbert hated him at that time…   

For the record, I have no problem with him taking the money and running…  But don’t play the card that money isn’t your primary concern, winning is…  Because that’s simply not the case here… So FOH because I don’t respect anyone that’s not a man of his word…  Owner, player, pastor…. Doesn’t matter…  Especially when it was no reason for him to say that sh!t…  

[tuck243Participant]

 Where are you getting your numbers from?  Also, don’t call what I’m saying BS…  Melo went on record saying what he was willing to do, not me…  "I already have money" is what he said, and I’m sure a sign and trade would be in the works to get him close to that max deal regardless of whatever team he chose to go to…  The Cavs still did it for LeBron to get to the Heat even though Gilbert hated him at that time…   

For the record, I have no problem with him taking the money and running…  But don’t play the card that money isn’t your primary concern, winning is…  Because that’s simply not the case here… So FOH because I don’t respect anyone that’s not a man of his word…  Owner, player, pastor…. Doesn’t matter…  Especially when it was no reason for him to say that sh!t…  

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

Melo obviously doesn’t care about winning about  winning anything in his career.  If he did, he would’ve signed with the Bulls who have an elite coach in Thibs.  With no head-coaching experience on any level Fish coming in and a train wreck of a line-up, could be a long rest of his career for Melo in New York.  

[trombonematrix43Participant]

http://deadspin.com/report-carmelo-is-going-back-to-the-knicks-1602575855

Interesting article and it raises some good points. Check it out. 

[trombonematrix43Participant]

http://deadspin.com/report-carmelo-is-going-back-to-the-knicks-1602575855

Interesting article and it raises some good points. Check it out. 

[mixtape2003Participant]

I’m not believing anything until I hear it from Melo himself, too many "sources" out there with miss leading info

[mixtape2003Participant]

I’m not believing anything until I hear it from Melo himself, too many "sources" out there with miss leading info

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

His agent is saying that he’s still deciding between Knicks/Lakers

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

His agent is saying that he’s still deciding between Knicks/Lakers

[WetalkinboutpracticeParticipant]

 If this is true as a Knicks fan it would, for lack of a better word, suck. Phil had no other choice but to offer Melo the full max if he wanted to retain the guy, but he hoped as all Knicks fans hoped that Anthony would leave someone money on the table. I was optimisticly looking for deal around 5yrs/$110-115M that would allow the front office some wiggle room. Welp. 2015 should be interesting.

[WetalkinboutpracticeParticipant]

 If this is true as a Knicks fan it would, for lack of a better word, suck. Phil had no other choice but to offer Melo the full max if he wanted to retain the guy, but he hoped as all Knicks fans hoped that Anthony would leave someone money on the table. I was optimisticly looking for deal around 5yrs/$110-115M that would allow the front office some wiggle room. Welp. 2015 should be interesting.

[chall23Participant]

They haven’t reported anything on ESPN as of now… Not saying that ESPN is the most reliable source of info but I’m kind of surprised they haven’t mentioned it yet true or not. 

[chall23Participant]

They haven’t reported anything on ESPN as of now… Not saying that ESPN is the most reliable source of info but I’m kind of surprised they haven’t mentioned it yet true or not. 

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

Read the title wrong. Thought he was stepping down from his position as basketball player, resigning. Damn you, homophones.

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

Read the title wrong. Thought he was stepping down from his position as basketball player, resigning. Damn you, homophones.

[StarbucksSucksParticipant]

 Mavs have signed Parsons to a 3 year 45 million dollar offer sheet.  Mark is great at stirring the pot.  This will break the dam on this free agent thing wide open!

[StarbucksSucksParticipant]

 Mavs have signed Parsons to a 3 year 45 million dollar offer sheet.  Mark is great at stirring the pot.  This will break the dam on this free agent thing wide open!

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

Not a Melo guy. I think he was overrated a few years ago, but I’ve actually come back around and think he’s now almost underrated. His efficiency has improved in the last yr or so. He is in the Dwight Howard boat right now where he is still an elite talent but his star has certainly faded recently.

The whole "melo only cares about money" is such a lazy and turdish thing people should think for themselves. The Knicks are going to have soooo much cap space next offseason. They may not be a contender this year, though I do think they will be a playoff team and next offseason they will be in the mix for guys like Marc Gasol, Aldridge or any other big name guy.

Chicago would be a better spot, for THIS upcoming season, but in 5 years will it really? Rose hasn’t played in 2 years and everything about his game would suggest knee injuries will affect him more than most. Noah is a stud but what else do they have. Jimmy Butler, Taj Gibson are nice complimentary guys but I don’t necessarily buy that Chicago is all that great of a spot long term.

Then again, he may just care about the money and prove everything I’ve just said pointless haha. And who could blame him. Its not like the Knicks are a terrible team. They underachieved this year and because they are in New York and not Utah, everybody thinks they were the worst team in the league.

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

Not a Melo guy. I think he was overrated a few years ago, but I’ve actually come back around and think he’s now almost underrated. His efficiency has improved in the last yr or so. He is in the Dwight Howard boat right now where he is still an elite talent but his star has certainly faded recently.

The whole "melo only cares about money" is such a lazy and turdish thing people should think for themselves. The Knicks are going to have soooo much cap space next offseason. They may not be a contender this year, though I do think they will be a playoff team and next offseason they will be in the mix for guys like Marc Gasol, Aldridge or any other big name guy.

Chicago would be a better spot, for THIS upcoming season, but in 5 years will it really? Rose hasn’t played in 2 years and everything about his game would suggest knee injuries will affect him more than most. Noah is a stud but what else do they have. Jimmy Butler, Taj Gibson are nice complimentary guys but I don’t necessarily buy that Chicago is all that great of a spot long term.

Then again, he may just care about the money and prove everything I’ve just said pointless haha. And who could blame him. Its not like the Knicks are a terrible team. They underachieved this year and because they are in New York and not Utah, everybody thinks they were the worst team in the league.

[machu46Participant]

Signing with New York over Chicago does not mean that he doesn’t want to win.  If he went to Chicago, they still wouldn’t be the favorites to win it all.  Why force yourself to rely on another injury prone superstar after what happened with Amare while also taking about $60 million less to do so?

If Melo wants to win, his best options (assuming Miami with LeBron isn’t an option) would be Phoenix or New York.  Phoenix because they have a ridiculous amount of assets and cap space that they could use to put together a contending team very quickly, or New York because if he just waits a year, they’ll have cap space to put a good team around him.

Melo didn’t have a "sign here and you will be a champion" option this off-season, so it sounds like he decided to take the max money and then he’d see what New York can do.  If they can’t put a team around him, he’ll demand a trade to a contender and get both his money and a shot at a title.

 

 

 

[tuck243Participant]

The Bulls offered Melo a $60 Million contract that no one knows about? Where are you guys getting these numbers from?  No offer has been reported by the Bulls or Melo’s camp…  Just the Laker’s offer which is a one year difference…  I’m sure the Knicks would do a sign and trade to obtain picks since they wouldn’t want Melo to leave for nothing in return…  So, I ask again…  How are you getting $60 Million left on the table? 

This is a direct quote from Melo…  I didn’t change a word…  So, how are we wrong for holding a man to his word?  And basketball wise, the Bulls are better…  Simple…

 

“As far as the money, it don’t really matter to me. If I go somewhere else, I get paid. If I stay in New York, I get paid. As far as the money goes, it’s not my concern. My concern is to be able to compete on a high level, a championship level, coming in this last stretch of my career. I want to compete at that level.” 

He continued: “Without a doubt, any opportunity I have to build that up in New York, I’d do it. I told people all the time, always say, ‘If it takes me taking a pay cut, I’ll be the first one on Mr. Dolan’s steps saying take my money and let’s build something strong over here.’”

 

 

 

 

 

  

[tuck243Participant]

The Bulls offered Melo a $60 Million contract that no one knows about? Where are you guys getting these numbers from?  No offer has been reported by the Bulls or Melo’s camp…  Just the Laker’s offer which is a one year difference…  I’m sure the Knicks would do a sign and trade to obtain picks since they wouldn’t want Melo to leave for nothing in return…  So, I ask again…  How are you getting $60 Million left on the table? 

This is a direct quote from Melo…  I didn’t change a word…  So, how are we wrong for holding a man to his word?  And basketball wise, the Bulls are better…  Simple…

 

“As far as the money, it don’t really matter to me. If I go somewhere else, I get paid. If I stay in New York, I get paid. As far as the money goes, it’s not my concern. My concern is to be able to compete on a high level, a championship level, coming in this last stretch of my career. I want to compete at that level.” 

He continued: “Without a doubt, any opportunity I have to build that up in New York, I’d do it. I told people all the time, always say, ‘If it takes me taking a pay cut, I’ll be the first one on Mr. Dolan’s steps saying take my money and let’s build something strong over here.’”

 

 

 

 

 

  

[machu46Participant]

The quote to me simply says that Melo thinks the Knicks can build a contender in the next few years.

Going to Chicago, they still wouldn’t be a title favorite.  They’d be in the mix with LeBron’s team and Indiana, but they wouldn’t be the favorites, and that’s just in the East.  And he’d be praying like hell for Rose to finally stay healthy when the guy has played 49 games in the last 3 years combined.  I’d rather take my chances on what New York can do in 2015 or what Phoenix could do with all of their cap space and assets than relying on an injury prone guy to be your best teammate again after what happened with Amare.

And the $60 million contract is because it was reported that Chicago was offering around $17 million a year, and that that was all they could open up to spend on Melo.  $17 million x 4 years = $68 million, versus the 5 year $129 million that the Knicks are supposedly offering.  That’s a ton of money to leave behind to go to a team where you’d have to pray for the health of a teammate to allow you to compete for a championship.

 

 

[machu46Participant]

The quote to me simply says that Melo thinks the Knicks can build a contender in the next few years.

Going to Chicago, they still wouldn’t be a title favorite.  They’d be in the mix with LeBron’s team and Indiana, but they wouldn’t be the favorites, and that’s just in the East.  And he’d be praying like hell for Rose to finally stay healthy when the guy has played 49 games in the last 3 years combined.  I’d rather take my chances on what New York can do in 2015 or what Phoenix could do with all of their cap space and assets than relying on an injury prone guy to be your best teammate again after what happened with Amare.

And the $60 million contract is because it was reported that Chicago was offering around $17 million a year, and that that was all they could open up to spend on Melo.  $17 million x 4 years = $68 million, versus the 5 year $129 million that the Knicks are supposedly offering.  That’s a ton of money to leave behind to go to a team where you’d have to pray for the health of a teammate to allow you to compete for a championship.

 

 

[tuck243Participant]

NYC is banking on FA, but who is there to go after next season?  

Also, the Bulls cleared up $17 Million in cap space because of the amnesty to Boozer, that’s not what they offered him…  Where is your source to that information?  He’s leaving $30-$35 Million on the table if he sign elsewhere, but majority of that is based on that extra year…  Like I said, its not hard to get Melo into that type of money with the Bulls…  With or without D. Rose that Chicago team is better than NYC…  It showed LAST season…  

 

  

[tuck243Participant]

NYC is banking on FA, but who is there to go after next season?  

Also, the Bulls cleared up $17 Million in cap space because of the amnesty to Boozer, that’s not what they offered him…  Where is your source to that information?  He’s leaving $30-$35 Million on the table if he sign elsewhere, but majority of that is based on that extra year…  Like I said, its not hard to get Melo into that type of money with the Bulls…  With or without D. Rose that Chicago team is better than NYC…  It showed LAST season…  

 

  

[machu46Participant]

Signing with New York over Chicago does not mean that he doesn’t want to win.  If he went to Chicago, they still wouldn’t be the favorites to win it all.  Why force yourself to rely on another injury prone superstar after what happened with Amare while also taking about $60 million less to do so?

If Melo wants to win, his best options (assuming Miami with LeBron isn’t an option) would be Phoenix or New York.  Phoenix because they have a ridiculous amount of assets and cap space that they could use to put together a contending team very quickly, or New York because if he just waits a year, they’ll have cap space to put a good team around him.

Melo didn’t have a "sign here and you will be a champion" option this off-season, so it sounds like he decided to take the max money and then he’d see what New York can do.  If they can’t put a team around him, he’ll demand a trade to a contender and get both his money and a shot at a title.

 

 

 

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