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The Lakers' package would be built around center Andrew Bynum. Denver has no interest in Ron Artest and isn't particularly interested in Lamar Odom either, sources said. A straight-up deal of Bynum for Anthony works financially, but there could be other players involved since Denver would look to shed more salary if possible.
Sources described the talks as in their infancy, and a three-way deal between the Knicks, Nuggets and Wolves is very much alive.
Bynum is averaging 11.3 points and 7.4 rebounds per game in 27 games this season as he works his way back from injury. In five full seasons with Los Angeles, Bynum has averaged only 56 games per season due to injuries.
Anthony is coming off a 50-point, 11-rebound outing Monday, but the Nuggets lost to the Rockets.
DNYCE would love this. It would be a dream come true for him.. hahaha
i think this deal is going to happen.... bynum is vastly over-rated and has 2 bad kness, i mean if u can team up kobe w/ melo and pau ur looking at perhaps the best team of the decade, the depth and star power on tht roster wud b overwhelming
Bynum may have more considered upside than say Derrick Favours who was the jewel in the Nets bid for Melo. The Lakers gave their first rounder away this year but may even go down the rental line and assume they can probably get to the Finals at least and thus resign Melo in the summer. That way they can give less away to the Nuggets. Denver get Bynum who only has another guaranteed year so they could start the rebuild either with or without him, Denver could have Nene and Bynum as their frontcourt which would be a fairly strong basis to go forward on.
If another team could be brought in and maybe given some sweetner to take K-Mart's expiring deal thus saving Denver a load of luxury tax then I could see a deal being attractive to Denver.
Denver won't do a deal straight up for Bynum. A first round pick should also be part of the deal, as well as throwaways to clear cap space...Unless they are stupid of course. I would not even think about trading Melo to the Lakers. This is such a terrible idea for Denver. Your simply giving LA another dynasty for the next 10 years. Big name free agents will want to play there as Kobe and company begin to decline, as long as Melo is there...hell even if he isn't there. Furthermore, to me Andrew Bynum is one big question mark (no pun intented). Can he be a dominant center when given a secure starting gig? Can he even stay healthy long enough to have a chance? Frankly, I would be very very hesitant to gut the team and rebuild around him. If it happens I see this trade being disasterous for Denver.
favours has way more upside then bynum man..... statistically i think bynum maxes out at 16 and 10.... where as favours the skies the limit and bynums career is gonna be cut short due to his constant knee issues
If this deal happens, which isnt out of the question, denver will have seriously dropped the ball. Bynum is never healthy. end of story.
favors is overrated...he hasnt shown anything to make me believe hes an nba star at any point in time.
Bynum is only 23 years old. There's the injury thing, but he could be worth the risk. He only has two guaranteed years left on his deal. The third is a team option. IF he can't stay healthy, they can decline that third year.
Favors does not have more upside then Bynum IMO. you forget that Bynum did put up close to 20 and 10 when Paul was hurt last season.
Is it possible that the Lakers are looking to trade Bynum because they know something that we don't know in the future(D.Howard coming to L.A or Blake telling them he is gonna join them when his contract is up???????) hmmmmmmm very possible ..lol
But yeah if Bynum can stay healthy this is a very good deal for the Nuggets. Theres no one even close to being able to defend him when healthy and in his prime in the west
Bynum being 23 is almost as shocking as Luol Deng being like 25 or 26 or whatever he is.
Dwight Howard thats doubtful, they don't have the cap room or young player or chips to get that done.
Griffin that could happen but he still has 2 plus years and even then the Clips could match by that time most of the Lakers will be old.
10 year dynasty really the Lakers look old right now. Obviously they'd be the best team in the league for a while but not more than a few years. Then again another team will be stupid enough to give them a legit backup Center or starting PG for Artest and they would win some more titles even. Not sure why Denver wouldn't want Odom he's signed to a cheaper contract and is rarely hurt compared to Bynum who is almost always hurt. Bigs are harder to find but they have Nene and if they pair him up with Odom and Ty Lawson thats a nice trio to build the team around.
Too many conflicting reports, ESPN also says the Lakers owner won't trade Bynum which seems a lil crazy since they'd get an elite top player back. Also some say this is more rumors to get the price for Mello up for the Nuggets if so it will probably work.
The Nets offer was much more sweeter deal than this lakers offer. The Nuggets would have gotten Devin Harris, Favors and 2 future 1st Picks.
Dwight howard in a couple of years as a free agent. by that time Gasol on his way down
Getting rid of Bynum,(Odom,and Artest)if they have to for MElo?..that's dumb as hell..Those are 3 of the key reasons y the lakers even won the last 2 rings..if it wasn't for Artest LA prolly wouldve lost in the 1st round.(d on Durant,Lucky shots,etc.)and you gone give that up 4 a dude that Just fire up shots and dont play no D?..that would be super stupid.
Huh?..they would only be getting rid of Bynum. Denver doesn't want Odom and /or Artest
I wonder if Melo is interested in signing an extension with LA. I'm not sure I would trade my superstar player in the same conference.
Like I said before, Denver better make sure all the knees are in check for Bynum.
I personally wouldn't do it ( not because he could go to NY, but because Bynum's past) but it probably is the best deal they can get for him.
The bigger question/next move: What can you get for Nene and Billups?
They shoul dbe able to get good players for both. a good SF and a good pf. So that leaves
ESPN just said LA is building a package around Bynum.
So I guess Bynum-Artest?
I'm guessing not. More likely Bynum and Caracter or Ebanks
How about these deals?
Nene for Stephen Jackson and Gerald Henderson
Billups for Spieghts, Brackins, 1st rounder and Songalia
Aren't the Nuggest tryna get younger though. With Jackson they wont be younger and they aren't gonna win now or in the next couple of seasons
This is truly not a good situation for the knicks. This is the one team they did not want to get into the melo sweep stakes
just another year as a knick fan......full of diapointments
This is truly not a good situation for the knicks. This is the one team they did not want to get into the melo sweep stakes
Not really. If anything, you didn't want the Clippers in the mix for Melo, but the Lakers? Kinda always new they were in there for me.
The NBA where stealing happens...they are killing the league with moves like this...how can any team besides the Lakers, Knicks, Bulls, Celtics and Heat even compete when all the top tier talent is or reportedly want to play in LA, Ny, Chicago, Miami or Boston...Arrogant European Rookies want to hand pick the teams they play for...players are allowed to use their agents and " sources " to get them traded to locals of their choice...Franchise players are being linked to The top teams in the nba (none of which has cap room) years before their even able to sign to other teams...which the new cba in question, a lock out looming, whispers of contraction floating around, economic loses in 80 percent of the league and uncertain future as a sport this move is the final straw...the fact u guys are bringing up Dwight Howard and Blake Griffin as future Lakers is ridiculous, how can you honestly tell yourselves that concept is any good for any one besides the Los Angeles Lakers...this crap makes me sick...
Scarecrow 2 questions
A. Are you Estiban Noel on FB?
B. What do you think of Philly man? Making a bounceback in the East
Maybe not you but for the die hard fans that are wanting Melo very bad and thought there was no other team that could derail that hope
When you're a fan of a team you don't care as much about how it is good for any other team but you'res. Like How Bulls fans were happen when after winning titles they got a great defender and rebounder in Rodman. O Boston way back in the day or UCla when they kept getting the top recruits and won back to back to back to back titles
Or when Wilt,Kareem,Shaq,Gasol came to the Lakers
In a couple of years lets say Bynum is traded straight up for Mello. Mello will make more money with the extension they'll be capped out at about 65 million with Kobe, Gasol and Mello.
If they don't make the trade then Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Fisher, Walton, Blake and Fisher are at 67 million and thats not counting any mid leve exceptions, draft picks or other cap holds that count to get the roster to 12.
I just heard the Lakers turned down moving Bynum, too many rumors out there.
Fisher and Artest contract only runs two more years right?..How much longer is Gasol's. by a couple im guessing you mean two or more and i think there will be contracts that have run out by then
I believe Artest is under contract for 5 years due to a recent extension. Denver will not take Artest according to everything I have read or heard and for good reason...
Artest signed a extension? i didn't know that. thought it was just for four years. I know he did say he was only gonna play for three and then go do MMA
He's in year 2 of a 5 year contract from 09'..
True True...Are the last two years team options?
Esteban Noel if u want to request me cool...now the Sixers recent success isn't surprising, I always felt they had a top 8 team in the east...a lot of people jumped down my throat when I said they were better then Any team not named The Celtics, Heat, Magic, Bulls and Hawks...the Knicks are desperately trying to get help this year, they can very well finish 7th or 8th in the east if they can't trade for Carmelo Anthony by the deadline...I know this is going to sound crazy but if the Sixers had a true superstar they'd easily be a top 3 team in the east going forward(Boston and Orlando are not built for more then 2 more dominate years...) New York is prime to get Melo or a collection of parts in free agency...Melo likely leads to Cp3 and thats very good on paper and regular season stats and highlight reels, you'll need to get a great interior defend and lock down wing...Brewer and Big man X would be a nice start(cheap enough to stay the Cp3/Melo/Amare course)
Id rather have the Favors package but I doubt Anthony wants to go to the Nets. New York isnt offering enough and better hope that Anthony doesnt get traded, if I was the Lakers I would definitely offer Bynum, Brown, picks and other expendable assets, to RENT Carmelo Anthony. Im sure if Carmelo got a bit of the Lakers lifestyle, played next to Kobe and Gasol, and (they would win) won a Championship with the Lakers he would never want to leave. The media and Lakernation would name him Kobes predesessor, and even if he decided not to stay that would create an amazing lifelong storyline and rivalry between New York and Los Angeles.
I read that Denver wants to get younger and get under the cap and that the Bynum deal sounds better to them then the Knicks or Nets deal because of the Lakers trade exception which would be worth even more with overall salaries going down next year. They also want to get rid of Chris Anderson and the Lakers are able to take his contract on (probably because of the trade exception but i dont know for sure, i do know that some how they are able to take his contract which puts Denver) even further under the cap
listen.... the bynum deal is the best denver will get, although i think the nets deal is better, melo dont want no part of it so for denver u take a shot with bynum and his bad knees. ITS MIND BOGGLING 2 me y the knicks wont give denver what they want! how can u not trade galinari when in return u would get a top 3 scorer and franchise player??? but i guess thts y they the knicks aka the most poorly run franchise in the nba over the last 5-7 yrs
ITS MIND BOGGLING 2 me y the knicks wont give denver what they want! how can u not trade galinari when in return u would get a top 3 scorer and franchise player??? but i guess thts y they the knicks aka the most poorly run franchise in the nba over the last 5-7 yrs
......The Nuggets don't want Gallinari. They never did from what I heard/read
Denver wants Gallo and Landry though. Thats you're starting sg who plays very good defense, great rebounder, only a rookie and puts up 10ppg plus is a 39 percent three point shooter. Then you have Gallo who puts up 16 and 5 and is the same defender as Melo is not better. Thats 26ppg and 12 reb and two guys who are basically 40percent three point shooters
This isn't going to happen. Denver is just trying to get the Knicks to up the ante a little bit. But no deal with include Gallo and Landry Fields, I can assure you Walsh wouldn't to that. Guitar Jimmy on the other hand, we can't be sure of. Denver wants more than Brewer, Chandler and a 1st rounder from Minnesota (which if I'm not mistaken would be this year). Honestly, if I'm Walsh I would play the waiting game. Denver at this stage, HAS to get rid of him for something in return, and I honestly don't think that Phil Jackson would feel comfortable trading his best bench player and a young center for Melo, I just don't see that happening, and I'm not just saying that as a Knicks fan.
Seems that my Lakers thread 2 months ago was right after all
The Lakers aren't including Odom. Denver already said they don't want Odom or Artest anyway. The waiting game by Walsh was a great idea until the Lakers got into the mix
If Im the knicks I look past the whole Anthony and start to get realistic. Find a way to pickup Nene for a Galinari, Turiaf or Chandler, Turiaf combo then have Curry's contract expire and sign Carmelo. Nene would be an absolute dream come true in Dantoni's system. Imagine...
and a bunch of veterans to fill the roster
How you expect that to happen? Denver wont even make that trade right now and it only includes Anthony. Why would they accept it while adding Nene?
Denver also doesn't want Artest. I think this is gonna happen:
Bynum and 2 1st round picks for Melo.
Why? Your taking a risk on Bynum and Chris Broussard said on Mike and Mike that the LA front office aren't that happy with him. Denver could look at this as high risk, high reward ( not really because Bynum's last season I beleieve is a team opt) and could say "give me the 30th pick in 2 years' drafts.
Then, I think you make these moves
Billups, Affalo, 1st rounder and Anderson for Josh Smith, Teague and Evans
Nene and Balkman for Harden, Aldrich and Peterson
Wake me up when SOMETHING ACTUALLY HAPPENS!!!!!!
Denver have waited and waited on Melo so any blow up this season will be limited, the Lakers gave their 2011 first rounder away a few weeks ago to save cap space. We all know that Jerry Buss's son is a huge fan of Bynum's so will not want him traded.
If Melo did go to the Lakers then NY would not have an obvious other Franchise level FA to sign this summer, they would probably add complimentary pieces and then ESPN starts bigging them up for the 2012 FA market!