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- Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 7:06am #59084
MeloSwagParticipantWhile Bledsoe shoots a touch better in all categories (5% higher overall, 4% higher from 3, 8% higher from the line) , MCW has the advantage statistically in scoring and rebounding, and their A/TO ratio and steals are nearly identical. Obviously, they have different styles of play, but why is the narrative on the two so drastically different?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 8:21am #966177
prophetmeirParticipantBledsoe Defense sets him apart, you can look at steals numbers and other things of that nature. That does not always tell the story, he guards the best guard on the floor for 36 min plus rarely gambles himself out of postion. On offense he is still a threat and rarley forces anything while on the court. MCW is different while he plays on a weaker team he often dribbes himself to death, not a great passer and while he is an ok defender he takes breaks of
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 8:21am #966030
prophetmeirParticipantBledsoe Defense sets him apart, you can look at steals numbers and other things of that nature. That does not always tell the story, he guards the best guard on the floor for 36 min plus rarely gambles himself out of postion. On offense he is still a threat and rarley forces anything while on the court. MCW is different while he plays on a weaker team he often dribbes himself to death, not a great passer and while he is an ok defender he takes breaks of
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 8:54am #966185
MeloSwagParticipantHow can you say that MCW is a worse passer when his assist numbers are higher and his A/TO is identical? That seems to be a completely subjective observation not backed up by the results. Clearly they both struggle with shooting and efficiency. And while steals aren’t the end all be all defensively they seemed to be used pretty frequently as an indicator of defensive ability from the guard position. And as far as not forcing things go, in the end the #’s are the #’s, and 44% compared to 39% is a tangible difference, but in the end he’s only making 5 more shots out of 100. I’m not sayin that Eric Bledsoe is not better than MCW but you can’t look at all the #’s and say they don’t produce similar results, which is what it comes down to.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 8:54am #966038
MeloSwagParticipantHow can you say that MCW is a worse passer when his assist numbers are higher and his A/TO is identical? That seems to be a completely subjective observation not backed up by the results. Clearly they both struggle with shooting and efficiency. And while steals aren’t the end all be all defensively they seemed to be used pretty frequently as an indicator of defensive ability from the guard position. And as far as not forcing things go, in the end the #’s are the #’s, and 44% compared to 39% is a tangible difference, but in the end he’s only making 5 more shots out of 100. I’m not sayin that Eric Bledsoe is not better than MCW but you can’t look at all the #’s and say they don’t produce similar results, which is what it comes down to.
0- Posted on: Thu, 02/12/2015 - 1:10am #966164
Jr. ROXASParticipantBledsoe averages slightly less assists because first of all he shares ball-handling duties with 2 OTHER PGS. When both Thomas and Dragic are on he floor, you really do not know who is going to handle he ball and whos gonna play off the ball. MCW is like the only option in Philidelphia with Wroten injured. The rock is with him I bet 90% of the team’s possesion, of course there’s a higher chance he’ll get more assists. I tell you, if Bledsoe were playing in Philly he will be posting UNREAL numbers.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/12/2015 - 1:10am #966311
Jr. ROXASParticipantBledsoe averages slightly less assists because first of all he shares ball-handling duties with 2 OTHER PGS. When both Thomas and Dragic are on he floor, you really do not know who is going to handle he ball and whos gonna play off the ball. MCW is like the only option in Philidelphia with Wroten injured. The rock is with him I bet 90% of the team’s possesion, of course there’s a higher chance he’ll get more assists. I tell you, if Bledsoe were playing in Philly he will be posting UNREAL numbers.
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- Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 9:10am #966191
BiggysmallsParticipantI’m no expert on the Suns, but guarding the opposing team’s best player is usually a duty manned by P.J Tucker, and quite frankly if it was Bledsoe, it wouldn’t be something you want on your resume given how terrible the Suns are defensively. Guarding the other teams best player doesn’t mean you are a good defender if you are letting your guy drop 25 points.
Bledsoe’s style is predicated on explosiveness and I feel like there has always been a level of intrigue because of his athleticism and aggresiveness. He plays like Westbrook and I think his supporters are waiting for him to turn into that kind of dominant player.
Bledsoe is a nice player, but he’s not great. He averages about six assists per game, but he doesn’t move the ball as well as you would like your point guard to at times and his decision making is still suspect when his athleticism is bottled up. Carter-Williams isn’t a great point guard either, but I think playing for 76ers means people assume he’s putting up empty numbers. He isn’t super athletic, he isn’t a great outside shooter, but he’s really long and kind of akward looking on the court. Not saying that makes him better or worse, but I think that’s what people see.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 9:10am #966044
BiggysmallsParticipantI’m no expert on the Suns, but guarding the opposing team’s best player is usually a duty manned by P.J Tucker, and quite frankly if it was Bledsoe, it wouldn’t be something you want on your resume given how terrible the Suns are defensively. Guarding the other teams best player doesn’t mean you are a good defender if you are letting your guy drop 25 points.
Bledsoe’s style is predicated on explosiveness and I feel like there has always been a level of intrigue because of his athleticism and aggresiveness. He plays like Westbrook and I think his supporters are waiting for him to turn into that kind of dominant player.
Bledsoe is a nice player, but he’s not great. He averages about six assists per game, but he doesn’t move the ball as well as you would like your point guard to at times and his decision making is still suspect when his athleticism is bottled up. Carter-Williams isn’t a great point guard either, but I think playing for 76ers means people assume he’s putting up empty numbers. He isn’t super athletic, he isn’t a great outside shooter, but he’s really long and kind of akward looking on the court. Not saying that makes him better or worse, but I think that’s what people see.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 9:17am #966195
prophetmeirParticipantBest guard player of course he cant guard 3s and 4s thats pj job, but in a league whre everyone has an elite pg thats a great tool to have
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 9:17am #966048
prophetmeirParticipantBest guard player of course he cant guard 3s and 4s thats pj job, but in a league whre everyone has an elite pg thats a great tool to have
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:24am #966207
Magic JordanParticipantWell for one, the stats you provide aren’t right according to ESPN. Bledsoe has a 7% better FG%. 8% better 3P% and an 18% better FT shooter. Bledsoe also has MCW beat in scoring by 2 points per game. Just out of curiosity what is the source of the stats you are looking at? Bledsoe averages more steals, blocks and one less turnover. So pretty much the only thing MCW has on Bledsoe is Assists and Rebounds. The shooting % aren’t even close and are the biggest indicator of difference for me. And although I don’t feel like doing deeper research I would almost be willing to bet that MCW has a higher usage rate and he is not sharing the court with two other legitimate point guards.
I’m not of the crowd that believes MCW would be putting up equally high, albeit ineffecient stats if he was on a more talented team.
Bledsoe and MCW are not equals.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/11/2015 - 10:24am #966060
Magic JordanParticipantWell for one, the stats you provide aren’t right according to ESPN. Bledsoe has a 7% better FG%. 8% better 3P% and an 18% better FT shooter. Bledsoe also has MCW beat in scoring by 2 points per game. Just out of curiosity what is the source of the stats you are looking at? Bledsoe averages more steals, blocks and one less turnover. So pretty much the only thing MCW has on Bledsoe is Assists and Rebounds. The shooting % aren’t even close and are the biggest indicator of difference for me. And although I don’t feel like doing deeper research I would almost be willing to bet that MCW has a higher usage rate and he is not sharing the court with two other legitimate point guards.
I’m not of the crowd that believes MCW would be putting up equally high, albeit ineffecient stats if he was on a more talented team.
Bledsoe and MCW are not equals.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:46pm #966707
Mr. HookShotParticipantRight now it is really hard to judge MCW, considering he is playing on a low-quality team in which he is forced to handle the ball and determine how the team plays. I actually believe he will fare pretty well on a good team as well, given his vision and passing on offense (he sees the game better than his stats might suggest). He should work his ass off however to improve his shooting, especially from 3, if he wants to have any success on better teams and in the playoffs.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/13/2015 - 11:46pm #966559
Mr. HookShotParticipantRight now it is really hard to judge MCW, considering he is playing on a low-quality team in which he is forced to handle the ball and determine how the team plays. I actually believe he will fare pretty well on a good team as well, given his vision and passing on offense (he sees the game better than his stats might suggest). He should work his ass off however to improve his shooting, especially from 3, if he wants to have any success on better teams and in the playoffs.
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