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- Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 7:20am #53954
burgessfourParticipantAny chance Hinkie sells high on MCW as he did Holiday during last year’s draft ?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 7:28am #872748
Hacker90Participanthighly doubt it. I don’t see MCW going anywhere, PG of the future for the 76ers
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 7:28am #872643
Hacker90Participanthighly doubt it. I don’t see MCW going anywhere, PG of the future for the 76ers
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 7:34am #872750
machu46ParticipantNo chance. He’s their PG of the future. Him, Noel, and whoever they get with their pick (I think Parker would be a perfect fit with them) is a great core to build from.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 7:34am #872645
machu46ParticipantNo chance. He’s their PG of the future. Him, Noel, and whoever they get with their pick (I think Parker would be a perfect fit with them) is a great core to build from.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 7:41am #872752
Ebown5ParticipantCome on man, why would he do that?
MCW is already a better prospect than Jrue was and is on his rookie deal. He has borderline superstar potential and is a great kid as well. He is a central building block of what we are trying to build.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 7:41am #872647
Ebown5ParticipantCome on man, why would he do that?
MCW is already a better prospect than Jrue was and is on his rookie deal. He has borderline superstar potential and is a great kid as well. He is a central building block of what we are trying to build.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 7:55am #872756
burgessfourParticipantI don’t want Hinkie to even think about trading MCW. I just get this feeling Hinkie might consider it if he got a great offer (2 picks this year, one of which is top 10).
I agree MCW, Noel and the 2 picks (hopefully) this year should be the building blocks.
Anyone seeing any Sixers trade rumors ?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 7:55am #872651
burgessfourParticipantI don’t want Hinkie to even think about trading MCW. I just get this feeling Hinkie might consider it if he got a great offer (2 picks this year, one of which is top 10).
I agree MCW, Noel and the 2 picks (hopefully) this year should be the building blocks.
Anyone seeing any Sixers trade rumors ?
0- Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 8:50am #872784
The Scare Crow RisesParticipantThe 2 I’ve heard of are…
1.Thad Young, Spencer Hawes, James Anderson and a Trade Exemption
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Jeremy Lamb, Kendrick Perkins, Perry Jones and Hassem Thabeet
(Thunder are trying to make a serious push for the Finals, 76er GM Sam Hinkie wants former Rocket draft pick Jeremy Lamb in a backcourt with MCW, Thunder are nervous about chemistry
2.Thad Young and Brandon Davies for Tayshaun Prince and Ed Davis
(I heard the 76ers are willing to buy out Prince so he could join a contender for the Vet’s Min., the only sticking point is the 76ers are demanding a 1st rounder, Memphis may need to involve a 3rd team)
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 8:50am #872679
The Scare Crow RisesParticipantThe 2 I’ve heard of are…
1.Thad Young, Spencer Hawes, James Anderson and a Trade Exemption
for
Jeremy Lamb, Kendrick Perkins, Perry Jones and Hassem Thabeet
(Thunder are trying to make a serious push for the Finals, 76er GM Sam Hinkie wants former Rocket draft pick Jeremy Lamb in a backcourt with MCW, Thunder are nervous about chemistry
2.Thad Young and Brandon Davies for Tayshaun Prince and Ed Davis
(I heard the 76ers are willing to buy out Prince so he could join a contender for the Vet’s Min., the only sticking point is the 76ers are demanding a 1st rounder, Memphis may need to involve a 3rd team)
0- Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:32pm #873021
MopgrassParticipantI see why the 76ers would propose that trade. But Jeremy Lamb is awesome, the best is yet to come, and would be scoring a whole more if he wasn’t on a team with the greatest living scorer (this year). He’ll be real solid 3 years from now (maybe add a few pounds).
Hawes would fill that Perkins gap (for a few months) and Thad is solid, but the Thunder can win without the trade. It’s too big of a risk when things are going well.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:32pm #872914
MopgrassParticipantI see why the 76ers would propose that trade. But Jeremy Lamb is awesome, the best is yet to come, and would be scoring a whole more if he wasn’t on a team with the greatest living scorer (this year). He’ll be real solid 3 years from now (maybe add a few pounds).
Hawes would fill that Perkins gap (for a few months) and Thad is solid, but the Thunder can win without the trade. It’s too big of a risk when things are going well.
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- Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 9:49am #872709
vulture711ParticipantI believe EVERY other team in the league has been mentioned talking to the Sixers, which is amusing as Hinkie says nothing to the media (ESPN has nothing better to do than gossip). Per usual a deal will likely happen – and it won’t be anything anyone mentioned
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 9:49am #872814
vulture711ParticipantI believe EVERY other team in the league has been mentioned talking to the Sixers, which is amusing as Hinkie says nothing to the media (ESPN has nothing better to do than gossip). Per usual a deal will likely happen – and it won’t be anything anyone mentioned
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- Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 8:06am #872765
The Scare Crow RisesParticipantMicheal Carter Williams is already better than half the Point Guards playing in the league, he’s a top 20 starting Point Guard and he’s only in his rookie season…
How high could Sam Hinkie possibly sell MCW??? And why would he do that and risk it blowing up in his face…He landed a steal with the selection of Carter-Williams and looks to build around he and Noel, and I would think that Jabarri Parker is #1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 on their Big Board, with Dante Exum being the guy taken if by chance Parker is gone or returns to school…
No way we’d ever let our GM trade away Philly’s 1st Rookie of The Year since Allen Iverson, ain’t happening, End Thread…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 8:06am #872659
The Scare Crow RisesParticipantMicheal Carter Williams is already better than half the Point Guards playing in the league, he’s a top 20 starting Point Guard and he’s only in his rookie season…
How high could Sam Hinkie possibly sell MCW??? And why would he do that and risk it blowing up in his face…He landed a steal with the selection of Carter-Williams and looks to build around he and Noel, and I would think that Jabarri Parker is #1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 on their Big Board, with Dante Exum being the guy taken if by chance Parker is gone or returns to school…
No way we’d ever let our GM trade away Philly’s 1st Rookie of The Year since Allen Iverson, ain’t happening, End Thread…
0- Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 8:15am #872767
ibe12ParticipantI have to agree with you. Plus 6’6 point guards aren’t easy to find. He’ll be one of the best defensive guards for years and once the Sixers get more talent and he learns the league his FG% and assist numbers will go up.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 8:15am #872661
ibe12ParticipantI have to agree with you. Plus 6’6 point guards aren’t easy to find. He’ll be one of the best defensive guards for years and once the Sixers get more talent and he learns the league his FG% and assist numbers will go up.
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- Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 9:56am #872719
IknowitallJKParticipantHis quickness was really underestimated coming in to the draft. People taught at his size he may not be quick enough to keep up with the point guards of today, but he has held his own and then some (3rd in steals in the league).
He has a chance to be a star once his shot becomes more consistent. At his size with his quickness he can get his a shoot of at a high rate over other point guards.
His success has me very curious to see what Dante Exum is going to look like in the league.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 9:56am #872824
IknowitallJKParticipantHis quickness was really underestimated coming in to the draft. People taught at his size he may not be quick enough to keep up with the point guards of today, but he has held his own and then some (3rd in steals in the league).
He has a chance to be a star once his shot becomes more consistent. At his size with his quickness he can get his a shoot of at a high rate over other point guards.
His success has me very curious to see what Dante Exum is going to look like in the league.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 9:56am #872721
tuck243ParticipantHe gotta improve his shooting in order to be “untradeable”. He’s no Rondo, who manage to shoot close to 50% without a jumper. It’s not a given that MCW will improve his jumper either. His shooting is really, really bad…. 39%… And he’s taking 16 shots a game. I know he’s just a rookie, but he’s not efficient at all…
0- Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 12:52pm #872775
Ebown5ParticipantIt isn’t that he is "untradeable". There is just nothing to be gained by trading him at this point. He is a central pillar of our rebuild effort. Now of course you could have said that about Jrue last June, but the difference is that Jrue was already on his second contract and making big money.
He of course needs to improve his shot, but he will eventually. He may never become better than an average shooter, but he should at least get that far. Judging by his form he may even get better than that. When he gets some shooters on his team his assists will go up right away.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he were averaging 10 assists a game in a few years, and that is the type of player that you keep.
The only way that I could see trading him while he is on his rookie contract is if we draft Exum and he proves to be an even better player and we eventually put a package together for a superstar. We are going to flat out stink no matter who we get in the draft this year for at least the next two seasons. MCW is the best breath of fresh air that we have had in this organization since Iverson. He can be better than Iggy and Thad.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 12:52pm #872880
Ebown5ParticipantIt isn’t that he is "untradeable". There is just nothing to be gained by trading him at this point. He is a central pillar of our rebuild effort. Now of course you could have said that about Jrue last June, but the difference is that Jrue was already on his second contract and making big money.
He of course needs to improve his shot, but he will eventually. He may never become better than an average shooter, but he should at least get that far. Judging by his form he may even get better than that. When he gets some shooters on his team his assists will go up right away.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he were averaging 10 assists a game in a few years, and that is the type of player that you keep.
The only way that I could see trading him while he is on his rookie contract is if we draft Exum and he proves to be an even better player and we eventually put a package together for a superstar. We are going to flat out stink no matter who we get in the draft this year for at least the next two seasons. MCW is the best breath of fresh air that we have had in this organization since Iverson. He can be better than Iggy and Thad.
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- Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 9:56am #872826
tuck243ParticipantHe gotta improve his shooting in order to be “untradeable”. He’s no Rondo, who manage to shoot close to 50% without a jumper. It’s not a given that MCW will improve his jumper either. His shooting is really, really bad…. 39%… And he’s taking 16 shots a game. I know he’s just a rookie, but he’s not efficient at all…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:01am #872725
tuck243ParticipantOuch… This is league that has a ton of good PG’s… PG’s that’s able to shoot close to 50% now, I’ll tuck that statement right back in if I was you… He might have the potential to be better, but he’s not currently better. Nah…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:01am #872830
tuck243ParticipantOuch… This is league that has a ton of good PG’s… PG’s that’s able to shoot close to 50% now, I’ll tuck that statement right back in if I was you… He might have the potential to be better, but he’s not currently better. Nah…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:11am #872731
jwall1ParticipantWith Hinkie, anything is possible. I could see him trading MCW for a top 3 pick if Philly does not already get one. For a top 3, that is essentially MCW for being able to select guranteed who ever is left of/ for Parker, Wiggins, and Embiid. Ontop of that, they will have another high lotto pick and New Orleans’ lotto pick. Probably wont happen, but I think if anything it will be because a teams who have a top 3 will decline. As good as MCW is, he is inefficient and his stats are inflated due to him being on a bad team. He has been given alot of free reign. I really do not see him becoming a superstar, but he should be one of the better point guards and one of the best defensive point guards in the league.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:11am #872836
jwall1ParticipantWith Hinkie, anything is possible. I could see him trading MCW for a top 3 pick if Philly does not already get one. For a top 3, that is essentially MCW for being able to select guranteed who ever is left of/ for Parker, Wiggins, and Embiid. Ontop of that, they will have another high lotto pick and New Orleans’ lotto pick. Probably wont happen, but I think if anything it will be because a teams who have a top 3 will decline. As good as MCW is, he is inefficient and his stats are inflated due to him being on a bad team. He has been given alot of free reign. I really do not see him becoming a superstar, but he should be one of the better point guards and one of the best defensive point guards in the league.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:53am #872743
runBruceParticipantThey get lucky and draft a rookie of the year candidate with the 11th pick and then trade him away before he realizes his full potential. Why?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 10:53am #872848
runBruceParticipantThey get lucky and draft a rookie of the year candidate with the 11th pick and then trade him away before he realizes his full potential. Why?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 11:24am #872755
LambTheBeast03ParticipantHe is 16th in the NBA in PER for starting PG’s…so right about better than half give or take…a lot more "elite" PG’s than you think have an overall FG% not much better than 40%.
0- Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 5:40pm #872825
Sewok15ParticipantThere are a lot of great PG’s in the league. MCW will be one of them if he improves his outside shot but right now he probably isn’t even top 20.
Felton, Lin, Burke, Nelson, Chalmers, (Whoever the Lakers PG is this night) – Guys he is definitely better than now.
Hill, Calderon, Knight, Rubio, Jennings – Guys I think are better than MCW but you could debate it.
Bledsoe, Holiday, Teague, Walker, Lawson, Conley, Lowry, Thomas – Guys who weren’t all stars this year but definitely better than MCW.
Westbrook, Lillard, Parker, Paul, Irving, Wall – All star guys
Now he is right around 20 if your list looks like mine. Now Rondo and Rose aren’t on here due to injuries. Deron Williams is coming off the bench in NJ and not having a great year but he is someone I could see people rakning ahead of MCW as well. I am a fan and a believer of MCW but it is going to take time until he is in the top half of PG’s in the league…it is a stacked position.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 5:40pm #872931
Sewok15ParticipantThere are a lot of great PG’s in the league. MCW will be one of them if he improves his outside shot but right now he probably isn’t even top 20.
Felton, Lin, Burke, Nelson, Chalmers, (Whoever the Lakers PG is this night) – Guys he is definitely better than now.
Hill, Calderon, Knight, Rubio, Jennings – Guys I think are better than MCW but you could debate it.
Bledsoe, Holiday, Teague, Walker, Lawson, Conley, Lowry, Thomas – Guys who weren’t all stars this year but definitely better than MCW.
Westbrook, Lillard, Parker, Paul, Irving, Wall – All star guys
Now he is right around 20 if your list looks like mine. Now Rondo and Rose aren’t on here due to injuries. Deron Williams is coming off the bench in NJ and not having a great year but he is someone I could see people rakning ahead of MCW as well. I am a fan and a believer of MCW but it is going to take time until he is in the top half of PG’s in the league…it is a stacked position.
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- Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 11:24am #872860
LambTheBeast03ParticipantHe is 16th in the NBA in PER for starting PG’s…so right about better than half give or take…a lot more "elite" PG’s than you think have an overall FG% not much better than 40%.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 5:53pm #872831
thefmprojectParticipantThe one thing almost all of these ‘new breed’ point guards don’t have is MCW’s size. He can be special in a way that most can’t because of his size/length. Especially in the rebounding department, a la Rajon Rondo.
0- Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:58pm #872837
jwall1ParticipantHis size is unique in a pg, but the reality is as a point guard rebounding is not necessarily that important. I think that defensively his size is what gives him a bigger advantage over other guys like Irving and Curry, and etc.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 6:58pm #872943
jwall1ParticipantHis size is unique in a pg, but the reality is as a point guard rebounding is not necessarily that important. I think that defensively his size is what gives him a bigger advantage over other guys like Irving and Curry, and etc.
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- Posted on: Tue, 02/18/2014 - 5:53pm #872937
thefmprojectParticipantThe one thing almost all of these ‘new breed’ point guards don’t have is MCW’s size. He can be special in a way that most can’t because of his size/length. Especially in the rebounding department, a la Rajon Rondo.
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