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Maxed Out. Kevin Love: "Am I worthth the Max?"

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Maxed Out. Kevin Love: "Am I worthth the Max?"

When a reporter asked him if he was worth the max he said that was the front office decision.

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So according to the infomation above KLove should not get a Max Contract from the TWolves. But if he can replicate his #'s 20ppg/15rbds/41% from deep/47%fg from last year & get the TWolves to the Playoffs he may be worth 16-17mill. This $$$$ is based on the future( potential he's only 23 yrs old) & on in the current situation where he went to the AllStar game last year & had a historic run of double doubles. Plus he is responsibe for 10 wins in two of his season with the Twolves. And away besides the #'s he is rebounding machine that can shoot from distance & midrange. He along with improve teammates would be a force in the West. A person that opposing coaches would have to gameplan for. I would Max him Out & expect a trip to the WCF, IF DWilliams/Rubio/WJohnson find their role & contribute.

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I would give him a Max

I would give him a Max contract, he's one of those guys that will stay consistent thru out his entire career (20pts 14rpg). He's not a franchise player, but he is a safe bet to constantly put up numbers due to his workethic and basketball IQ. There are a ton of overpaid players in the NBA, and I don't think you would be overpaying much for a 20-15 guy by giving him a max. Atleast you know what your getting from him the next 10 years. 

And by the way he's still only 23 years old, the upside is still there to get even better.

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For the Wolves

For the Wolves yeah. He is from California and in the cold and there are limited things to do in Minessota.... Someone will give it to him but he as to ask himself is it about the money or winning. Would he be willing to give a couple of mill back to pay someone else or get them to play with him (maybe a vet to go with their talent...Beasley wont't be there). Me personally I would say give me mine and pray Derick Williams and Rubio come through ...they will be on their rookie contracts. By the time its time for him to re up he can go to wherever he wants to go if the Wolves are not winning.

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Not a franchise player? He

Not a franchise player? He put up those numbers while being doubled.. Imagine if he played with a guard good enough to keep players off him? If he played with Dwyane Wade or Derrick Rose, he would be unstoppable.....

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Love gave the perfect

Love gave the perfect response..If a team feels that they should give a player the max based on his stats..Then why should the player complain? Some teams feel the have to use the max on someone...

A few years ago New York felt obligated and gave a 1 dimensional like Allan Houston the max...And continued to pay him years after injuries had forced him to retire...They were paying Larry Johnson,Houston and Luc Longley,all 3 guys were no longer active,becuz injuries forced them to quit years earlier..And it took years for the Knicks to get out of that hole....

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Love gave the perfect

Love gave the perfect response..If a team feels that they should give a player the max based on his stats and not based on how many wins he lead them to..Then why should the player complain? Some teams feel they have to use the max on someone...

A few years ago New York felt obligated and gave a 1 dimensional like Allan Houston the max...And continued to pay him years after injuries had forced him to retire...They were paying Larry Johnson,Houston and Luc Longley,all 3 guys were no longer active,becuz injuries forced them to quit years earlier..And it took years for the Knicks to get out of that hole....

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BTPH is going to absolutely

BTPH is going to absolutely destroy this thread and everyone that has agreed that Kevin Love deserves the max lmao.

Kevin Love is NOT a max player in my opinion and doing so will only hurt the franchise going forward. Not saying he isn't a very good player, but he's not a superstar/franchise player. He's the third best player on a championship team. He is NOT Derrick Rose or Kevin Durant... Or Blake Griffin.

That's just the truth... He should be paid great, but not a max player. But hey... IF DeAndre Jordan is worth $8 million...

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Personally I think their are

Personally I think their are only about 5-8 guys who are worth the max, and Kevin Love in not one of them.

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Minny Has no other Option

if you have a player that you drafted & went to the Allstar Game in your city, a player that the City/Fanbase can rally around, you have to pay. Minny is not a FA Destination, even with $$$, in a small market they could do a lot worse than a 20ppg/15rbds 23yr old PF. BTW who else could Twolves lure to a Cold Climate/Without any highlights besides Mall of America. So he may not be NY/LA Max,(Organizations that can attract Top5 NBA Talent) however when you are limited on Q.O.L(thats Quality of Life i.e i.e Bucks,Cha,Twolves) your team has to make great trades draft well/develop & keep the Major pieces for 5-7yrs for the development of chemistry, so that you have a 5-7yr Deep playoff run. Similiar to the Kings from the Early 200's with CWebb & who was the Coach of that team????

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They won 17 games!

Kevin Love put up fantastic numbers and was of course their major bright spot, but it is hard to justify giving him max money if you want to be a competitive team. I think the entire concept of the max is slightly flawed. For instance, if their are maybe 8-10 players (rounding up) worth max money, does every teams best player deserve the max? I think the answer is no.

If you sign Kevin Love to max money, you get a solid PF who can score in a number of ways and rebound. However, you constrict the ability to sign other players to play along side him. For a team that is young, but having trouble winning games, that is kind of scary. If you sign Kevin Love to that contract, you are pretty much gambling that your team can build through the draft and free agency. Minnesota is giving up their first round pick to the Clippers, so the draft is a bust. Also, quite honestly, what free agents are going to want to go to Minnesota? If you say any names from the 2008 Draft, than remember, they are restricted and most teams are incredibly likely to match their offers and keep them.

I believe that Kevin Love will either take a close to max salary or a max salary as an extension. I really do not think that is the best thing for Minnesota's future as a competitive basketball team, but it looks like it is going to happen. David Kahn wants to save his job and if he does not have time to let Love go, destroy and rebuild. He needs to win right now. As much as people love Kevin Love, if you give him max money, you are probably not going to go anywhere. You could hope to be the second coming of Memphis, but despite how well that team played, they were the 8th seed in the play-offs. The Timberwolves are a young team, Kevin Love is a really solid PF, but I would want max money going to players that could win me championships or be in the process of doing so. Some people think Minnesota is in that process, but I am not at all buying.

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What holes do the Twolves have?

PG B- Starter/Reserve=Solid(LRidnour)& 1 player with AllStar Potential

SG Inc Big Hole=But teams that get scoring production from SF/PF positions don't really need a scoring SG. So WJohnson can be the player he was @ Cuse if he has the Confidence that his position is secure

SF B+ DWilliams/Beasley= A few scouts believed that DWill game could translate to the pros, so based on that knowledge i think he could give you 17-19ppg as 2nd option. Beasley could be shopped for Veteran SG

PF A- Love/Randolph/Tolliver= If Randolph is given the time to play he could cash in on his potential & be a great energy man off the bench, who could spell Darko @ the 5 also.

C D Darko=Another Hole in the Starting lineup but if he can alter shots & Rebound that would be enough. I like Randolph playing C for the Twolves.

If you give Love a 5yr 16Mill deal this team could be a young team on the rise, not because of 1 singualr talent but because the Whole is greater than the Sum.

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Did you count how many 'if's'

Did you count how many 'if's' you typed?

There is a reason why teams are trying to get rid of the likes of Beasley, Randolph, and Darko.

Like what one of the above posters said, you know exactly what you're getting with Love. You know he isn't just going to sign a huge contract and stop playing, he's too hard-working/competitive for that. You know he is going to avg 20/12 for years to come (keep in mind that Love is getting 15rpg while shooting a lot of 3s - missing a lot of offensive rebounds opportunities).

I think he's worth the MAX, skilled big men are hard to come by.

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One of the posters mentioned Allan Houston - that's exactly what I'm talking about, players that get paid and just stopped trying - and now he's set to become the next Knicks GM? Ridiculous.

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lol @ luke ridnour being a B-

lol @ luke ridnour being a B- ^^^^

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if im Minnesota i give him

if im Minnesota i give him whatever he wants to keep him in Minnesota...but if im another team i wouldnt max him out...hes a great player but i donno if hes worth the max

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7 if's

Wow my bad i'll do a better job next time

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Good Player but not a Max Player

You all made good points and the realioty is that Love is a good player not great. He did put up some great numbers for a Minnesota team that was horrifying to watch. The T'wolves roster helped Love looked so great because all of the current players, ecept for Love, don't play defense. They also cant rebound, they cant communicate with one another, and they have no desire to win. I respect Love's game and he is exactly the type of player I thought he was going to be when he came out of UCLA. He was going to be a good rebounder, with some post moves, a hard worker, and a good complimentary player to a star. This is not a knock on Love, but he is Robin to someone's Batman. If he gets MAX moner from Minny, great. Take it. but it will hurt the francise in the long run because he cant guide them to victories like Rose, Durant, and eventually Griffin.

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Adelman will bring out Love's

Adelman will bring out Love's full potential. Pay the man. He put up those numbers and he and Rambis didn't even get along.

Adelman made the PF spot a thing of beauty with Webber. He made Hayes look incredible with his outlet passes. Love is going to only get better in a system that features the PF and let's a big man pass like Hayes and CWebb.

Last I checked, Love passes the outlet better than anyone. Minny will be a run and gun team.

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A team doesn't have to pay

A team doesn't have to pay $80 million over 5 years for players in order to go 17-65, 15-67, and 24-58.

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i wouldnt pay love a max

i wouldnt pay love a max contract

he isnt a franchise player

hes very good

but not great or elite

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t-wolves

Why do we have so many T-Wolves threads on this site? lol they have sucked so bad for so long and yet we still discuss them and what they do as if they are actually going to make the correct decisions! Hell, I'm sure Kahn will give Love 5-100 if he can. The dude has proven to be an awful GM who will overpay for a big man he likes. It's just a matter of Love wanting to stay in Minny.

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I wouldn't pay Love the

I wouldn't pay Love the max................... yet. If he can lead the T-Wolves to even 40 wins, and can show tht he can adequetly pick up the slack for the other guys, and put up numbers the way he did- or even close to the way he did last season, than I go for it, but not yet, because he put up great munbers on a really sucky team.

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@apb... i was thinking the

@apb...

i was thinking the same thing...but this is a draft site, and the Twolves are usually picking high in the draft so i guess we all kinda follow their players haha...

i saw them play in DC last year and they are a fun team to watch (even without wes johnson) with Beasley and Love, im sure Rubio and D-Will wont hurt either...i just dont see them as a contender any time soon either

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