Is Marcus Smart Becoming Underrated?
I like where Aran Smith has him on this site's draft board, but lately there's been some noise about Smart being a potential "faller" to the late lottery or beyond regardless of how he tests at the combine.
Personally, I don't see how he could be taken outside the top 7. Aside from the shoving incident, some have brought up his team's poor showing in the NCAA tournament as reasons for his drop.
What?? Here's a guy who put up 23 points, 13 rebounds, 7 assists, and 6 steals as the Cowboy's point guard. His team did not lose because of him. He's a competitor, and he will succeed whether he's a 1, 2 or straight combo guard.
Just a chip on his shoulder that he will knock off himself. If he does in fact slide, Cleveland better not hesitate to pull the trigger.
Him having to play with Irving, Waiters, and Jack will be hilarious to watch. Hope it happens just to see how bad they'll be together!
Cleveland doesn't need ANOTHER combo-guard.
I do not see any humor to this. It makes perfect sense to me whether you see it or not. Nothing is concrete with the Irving/Waiters "situation". If 1 or the other goes Smart steps right in. Besides they lack depth at the guard spot. Why continue to create log-jams at 3-5? Also do you remember everyone wanting McLemore last year, if so he happens to play the guard spot?
There's no logjam on the Cleveland roster anywhere. Who's their SF? Deng, right? Behind him? A D-Leaguer. Oh, gee, how nice! ( Pun intended )
Behind Gee is a Russian rookie who is probably going back after his contract is up. At the 4? Thompson, who's nice and all, but behind him? Bennett, holy crap. Centers now! Varejao, injury-plagued player. Behind him is Zeller, who I like but can't get minutes with Hawes playing too. There's no LOGJAM, the backups are just either mediocre or horrible. Miles is probably gone too.
Contracts are up for Hawes and Deng. Hawes could stay, but I don't think Deng will. Karasev needs to add a lot of weight to play SF, but I'm a big fan... he's just not ready. I assume they draft a SF, but if they want a PG, I think Napier would be the best fit and they could trade down for him.
He's a combo guard who can't shoot, has horrific shot selection (42% of his shots were 3's) and isn't a freak athletically. Not saying he's going to be a bad player becuase I think he'll be solid but in a strong draft I can't see the demand in a supposed point guard who doesn't have great skills for the position and can't shoot.
Thanks for saying all that, really appreciated. +1!
@Hale description should be his new bio...such a disappointing return to Ok St. in my opinion.
I agree. His only weaknesses really are his shot selection, turnovers, and his shot does not have the best mechanics. He does everything else extremely well and has the the intagibles and competitive fire that will win teams ball games. If a team needs a guard taking him at 5 or 6 would be a smart move. If he falls, some lucky late lotto team is going to get a future all star IMO.
Marcus Smart shouldn't, on any planet, in any year, slip out of the lottery
The more I think about him is his ceiling a 6'3 Kyle Lowry. Both use their strength to get to the bucket and are stocky guards. That is a pretty good player. However I think he sort of lost his percieved toughness this year with all of his antics--his flopping, crabby attitude, and fan interactions.
In his 2 years at Oklahoma State he averaged 16.7 points, 2.95 steals, 4.5 assists, 5.85 rebounds, and .65 blocks, while shooting 29% from 3, 41.3% from the field, and 75% from the line, the elephant in the room, his shooting was horrible. I don't know if his shot will ever get better, we talk about players with work ethic working on broken jumpers and it doesn't always come around.. (MKG). His all around game is still good enough to be drafted in the top 10, he'll be a bulldog on defense, that can defend both guard positions, he's not a horrible athlete, I think he's a really good athlete, he just lacks explosion. The NBA draft is more about potential than the NFL draft, so if you take his skills that are already developed and you say.."man if this kid can gain a jumpshot" you draft him in the top 10.
After the suspension he averaged 19 points, 4.5 steals, 1 block, 6 assists, 7 rebounds. He can't shoot we know that, but a guy that fills up the stat sheet like that, you draft. I like the bigger Kyle Lowry comparison, or he can be like a smaller more team oriented Lance Stephenson, a stat sheet stuffer.
Kyle Lowry can shoot tho and is quicker
I wanna see him and Oladipo in the backcourt
But he has something that can't be taught and that's work ethic... He has a motor and you gotta love that in a player...
I have a feeling he's gonna be Randy Foye 2.0 than a damn D. Wade or Jason Kidd (Are y'all f---ing kidding me?) like this site suggests...
I don't know if you watched Foye at all this year or in college at Nova but he's an elite 3-pt shooter who struggles to penetrate. Smart is a chucker, who gets his baskets going to the hoop with decent athleticism. In that regard, he is much closer to D-Wade and Kidd than Foye.
They shot damn near the same percentages in College... It was nothing "elite" about Randy Foye's shot in college... They play uber similar offensively IMO... Your memory is a flawed one sir... (Keep in mind Foye was considered a combo guard and played the 2 majority of the time 3 for Nova..)
Foye's college career:31.3 Min 15.0 PPG 39.8 FG% 32.9 3FG% 78.1 FT% 3.2 APG 4.8 RPG 0.4 BPG 1.5 SPG
Smart's college career: 33.1 Min 16.6 PPG 41.3 FG% 29.4 3FG% 75.0 FT% 4.5 APG 5.9 RPG 0.6 BPG 2.9 SPG
D-Wade and Jason Kidd aren't "decent" athletically... Did you watch a young D-Wade and Jason Kidd? Kidd is considered one of the best passing PG's to EVER play the game... His speed was top in the league for a while... Smart plays NOTHING like Kidd... D-Wade had an elite level first step and athleticism... Which he used constantly... Smart don't have any of that...
It is a weird way of looking at it, but athletes rebound, steal and block shots. So when you look at Smart and his two seasons of three steals a game, you've got to think he has some special skill that probably can't be taught.
Last season 6 rebounds, .6 blocks and 2.9 steals. So 9.5 of what I call the athlete stats. Anything above 9 is elite for a PG. Guys like Kidd and Gary Payton put up numbers like that. It predicts, I think, a very smooth transition to the pros. And since his stats are nearly identical for two years (except the normal and predicatable improvement in TOs and shooting percentage), I'm really comfortable with his selection.
I think he is a can't miss. And after watching a series of Lowry put a team on his back, if Smart only gets as good as Lowry, that will be good enough for any pick short out of the top two. People forget how many picks after the number one slot turn into mediocre players or even busts. Picking in the top five is no guaratee you will get an NBA starter.
Of the NBA players I could find who pulled off similar feats in college (late 90's to now)...
Marcus Faison (SO): 9.7
CJ McCollum (SO): 11.0
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (SO): 9.6
Dwyane Wade (JR): 9.8
Victor Oladipo (JR): 9.3
Lester Hudson (JR): 11.3
Lester Hudson (SR): 10.8
CJ McCollum (JR): 9.6
Will Barton (SO): 10.1
JR Giddens (SR): 11.4
Landry Fields (SR): 11.2
Marshon Brooks (SR) 9.7
Travis Leslie (JR): 9.0
Quentin Richardson (FR): 11.6
Hassan Adams (SO): 10.3
Devin Brown (SR): 10.2
Current draft prospects Delon Wright and Kyle Anderson have also pulled if off.
Tell me if im crazy...but he reminds me a lot of a young baron davis. Stocky, deceptive athleticism, gambling defense, fiery competitor, great balance of scoring and leadership at the point...am I wrong?