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  • #59353
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    oc1234
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    Am I the only Celtic fan that believes Smart has just scrubbed it up ever since Rondo left?

    Okay when Rondo first left I gave Smart some chances. He was adjusting to a starting role in the NBA as a rookie and  I believed that maybe we would start to see some flashes of play along the way. Not only has he played below average even after the all star break, but we have almost completely moved him off ball because he’s played so bad. He can’t keep his dribble alive because it’s slow and sloppy and he also has not even been able to get to the rim. It’s been despicable and ugly. Some may claim that he has become a good 3 point shooter, but I tend to disagree. He may have made the most 3s out of all the rookies, but he’s also taken the most out of all rookies too and he’s only shooting 32.5% from behind the arc. He only averages 7.6 points per game and plays 26 minutes per game, that’s horrible. He can’t hit jumpshots off the dribble and he is very streaky as a shooter. You may say he’s a good defender, but I completely disagree with that. He’s shown glimpses of being a very good defender and other times I’ve literally seen him let a player drive into the lane and get a wide open layup. It honestly disgusts me to watch this guy play because he was drafted 6th overall. We could have drafted players like Zach LaVine or even Elfrid Payton and both would have been fine with me and I was preaching to take LaVine, but nah we will draft the "safe" pick. My friend is a Laker fan and he seems to consitantly remind me that Jordan Clarkson is better and he was drafted a round later. Quite honestly I agree with him. At least Clarkson can run the point guard position in the NBA. 

    Sorry guys I had to rant because it was on my mind. 

    Also if you disagree, please let it be known below. 

     

     

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  • #970580
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    The Celtics are 7-3 in their last 10 games. Sometimes its not all about putting up great stats.

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    • #970592
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      For_Never_Ever
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       I think a lot has to do with Brad Steven being a pretty damn good coach. This team consistently plays hard while not being as talented or good as the opposing team.

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    • #970744
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       I think a lot has to do with Brad Steven being a pretty damn good coach. This team consistently plays hard while not being as talented or good as the opposing team.

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  • #970732
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    The Celtics are 7-3 in their last 10 games. Sometimes its not all about putting up great stats.

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  • #970582
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     Smart’s impact doesn’t always show up in the box score. No doubt Smart will be a better pro than Lavine. 

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    • #970752
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      For_Never_Ever
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       I wouldn’t be so sure of that. He was forced to play PG out of position most of the season and in college. That position PG is likely the toughest in the NBA. He is a legit SG.  Lavine brings almost everything you would look for in a SG prospect and more.

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    • #970600
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      For_Never_Ever
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       I wouldn’t be so sure of that. He was forced to play PG out of position most of the season and in college. That position PG is likely the toughest in the NBA. He is a legit SG.  Lavine brings almost everything you would look for in a SG prospect and more.

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  • #970734
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    nateval
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     Smart’s impact doesn’t always show up in the box score. No doubt Smart will be a better pro than Lavine. 

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  • #970590
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    mgreener_34
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     Smart is also one of the youngest players in the league and isn’t even old enough to go into a bar yet. Give me a break. He’s already shown flashes of defensive excellence, and to be honest, that should be enough for us as Celtic fans. It was a safe pick, but it was the only pick that made sense then and now. As I stated in the other thread, no one but Nurkic was worth taking over Smart at the time, and players like Lavine were gamples that might not even work out. Just because a player is more flashy than another doesn’t make them a better player.

    Clackson sure as hell isn’t better than Smart, as his stats aren’t even that good and he has a 22% usage rate compated to Smarts 15%. Clarkson is just getting more touches and opportunity, that’s why you think he’s doing more, but in reality he’s sporting a 105 ORtg and putrid 112 DRtg. Smart is a 102 and 106 respectibly in those catagories. There are two sides of the game, and Smart looks to be an elite prospect on one side, and is still league average at the other. That’s worthy of a top pick in a garbage draft, and even more so when you add in a lot of the outside factors that will only help Smart improve. You mentioned his handle. This is something that can be improved (Look at Kevin Durant for example). I think he needs to lose a lot of his baby weight that he still carries around (11% body fat is unreal for a pro, Kevin Love’s was at 13%, and he was considered fat). Like Love, I totally expect Smart to shed that weight and become quicker and more explosive. This will help his game more and more, and you will see him progress a lot over the next few years. I just don’t see how any Celtic fan could be upset with this pick, unless they really wanted Randle. 

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    • #970594
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      For_Never_Ever
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      His birthday is March 6, 1994 (age 21)

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    • #970746
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      For_Never_Ever
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      His birthday is March 6, 1994 (age 21)

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    • #970596
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      For_Never_Ever
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       Also that draft was deep and very talented. We haven’t even seen more guys then ususally some because of injuies get any real burn yet. Second round guys I’ve been impressed with Spencer Dinwiddle, KJ Daniels, Jerami Grant and Jordan Clarkson.

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    • #970748
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      For_Never_Ever
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       Also that draft was deep and very talented. We haven’t even seen more guys then ususally some because of injuies get any real burn yet. Second round guys I’ve been impressed with Spencer Dinwiddle, KJ Daniels, Jerami Grant and Jordan Clarkson.

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    • #970760
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      How can you say it was a good pick? If we wanted a point guard why didn’t we wait till our pick last year and draft Dennis Schroeder who is a lot better point guard and we wouldn’t have had to trade up to get him. That pick chased out Rondo?? While I can’t deny on the Clarkson stats, I completely disagree with you on the handle. The fact that your admitting he needs to work on his handle is ridiculous as a 2 year college player and starting point guard. A point guard’s handle is their most important asset. Would you rather have a point guard who can’t handle the ball with a jumpshot or a point guard who can handle the ball and create offense off the dribble and have no jumpshot? You can’t just teach the handle that players like Irving, Curry, Parker, Wall, and the best point guards have; it is just second nature because they are natural point guards. For example, Wall’s jumpshot was not good, but his handle was natural and his athleticism was otherwordly so he had the opportunity to become a star. Can you name a point guard specifically that was drafted in the top 6 that had to tighten up their handle? No because it’s the biggest red flag of a point guard. The biggest red flags with Smart are 1. he’s not a good jumpshooter and 2. he is not a good ball handler and 3. he has average NBA athleticism. If you aren’t worried as a Celtics fan that Evan Turner is handling the ball more than your "starting" point guard you drafted with 6th overall pick than you need to open your eyes.  Also if we had the utmost trust in Marcus Smart why would we trade for Isaiah Thomas who just signed a 4 year deal? 

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    • #970608
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      How can you say it was a good pick? If we wanted a point guard why didn’t we wait till our pick last year and draft Dennis Schroeder who is a lot better point guard and we wouldn’t have had to trade up to get him. That pick chased out Rondo?? While I can’t deny on the Clarkson stats, I completely disagree with you on the handle. The fact that your admitting he needs to work on his handle is ridiculous as a 2 year college player and starting point guard. A point guard’s handle is their most important asset. Would you rather have a point guard who can’t handle the ball with a jumpshot or a point guard who can handle the ball and create offense off the dribble and have no jumpshot? You can’t just teach the handle that players like Irving, Curry, Parker, Wall, and the best point guards have; it is just second nature because they are natural point guards. For example, Wall’s jumpshot was not good, but his handle was natural and his athleticism was otherwordly so he had the opportunity to become a star. Can you name a point guard specifically that was drafted in the top 6 that had to tighten up their handle? No because it’s the biggest red flag of a point guard. The biggest red flags with Smart are 1. he’s not a good jumpshooter and 2. he is not a good ball handler and 3. he has average NBA athleticism. If you aren’t worried as a Celtics fan that Evan Turner is handling the ball more than your "starting" point guard you drafted with 6th overall pick than you need to open your eyes.  Also if we had the utmost trust in Marcus Smart why would we trade for Isaiah Thomas who just signed a 4 year deal? 

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  • #970742
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     Smart is also one of the youngest players in the league and isn’t even old enough to go into a bar yet. Give me a break. He’s already shown flashes of defensive excellence, and to be honest, that should be enough for us as Celtic fans. It was a safe pick, but it was the only pick that made sense then and now. As I stated in the other thread, no one but Nurkic was worth taking over Smart at the time, and players like Lavine were gamples that might not even work out. Just because a player is more flashy than another doesn’t make them a better player.

    Clackson sure as hell isn’t better than Smart, as his stats aren’t even that good and he has a 22% usage rate compated to Smarts 15%. Clarkson is just getting more touches and opportunity, that’s why you think he’s doing more, but in reality he’s sporting a 105 ORtg and putrid 112 DRtg. Smart is a 102 and 106 respectibly in those catagories. There are two sides of the game, and Smart looks to be an elite prospect on one side, and is still league average at the other. That’s worthy of a top pick in a garbage draft, and even more so when you add in a lot of the outside factors that will only help Smart improve. You mentioned his handle. This is something that can be improved (Look at Kevin Durant for example). I think he needs to lose a lot of his baby weight that he still carries around (11% body fat is unreal for a pro, Kevin Love’s was at 13%, and he was considered fat). Like Love, I totally expect Smart to shed that weight and become quicker and more explosive. This will help his game more and more, and you will see him progress a lot over the next few years. I just don’t see how any Celtic fan could be upset with this pick, unless they really wanted Randle. 

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  • #970598
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     Yes, Smart gets beat off-the-dribble a fair amount now, but almost all rookies do – he will be an excellent defender in time.  His lack of a slashing game is glaring now, but he could be a solid offensive player if he becomes a more reliable shooter.  He has his issues with ball-handling, but I would still rather have him than Clarkson simply because Smart has the tools and competitiveness to become a very good player.  Remember that he is younger than Clarkson.

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  • #970750
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     Yes, Smart gets beat off-the-dribble a fair amount now, but almost all rookies do – he will be an excellent defender in time.  His lack of a slashing game is glaring now, but he could be a solid offensive player if he becomes a more reliable shooter.  He has his issues with ball-handling, but I would still rather have him than Clarkson simply because Smart has the tools and competitiveness to become a very good player.  Remember that he is younger than Clarkson.

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  • #970756
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    Exum on the other hand keeps getting better.

    Looks like the jazz made the right choice. Id say the same about Orlando with Payton cos hes good too, but the Magic gave up a lot to get him. 

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  • #970604
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    Exum on the other hand keeps getting better.

    Looks like the jazz made the right choice. Id say the same about Orlando with Payton cos hes good too, but the Magic gave up a lot to get him. 

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  • #970766
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     The idea when he was drafted was that he couldn’t shoot, and 36.1% from the field and 32.5% from long range and 67.4% for free throws seems to confirm that.

    It does look like the Celtics just drafted a slightly taller Avery Bradley, which may not be a good use of the 6th pick in a draft.

    He is moved off the ball, and Turner and I Thomas are the playmakers, although they often make the play so they themselves can shoot.

    The Celtics are just hoping they have a player like Wade, but they probably don’t.  Maybe they trade Bradley, or maybe they trade Smart, they don’t seem to be a good fit.

    Boston have won a few games recently, but it wasn’t Smart as he was just missing shots.  The energy of new players Thomas, Jerebko and even Datome has been important to them.

      

     

     

     

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  • #970613
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     The idea when he was drafted was that he couldn’t shoot, and 36.1% from the field and 32.5% from long range and 67.4% for free throws seems to confirm that.

    It does look like the Celtics just drafted a slightly taller Avery Bradley, which may not be a good use of the 6th pick in a draft.

    He is moved off the ball, and Turner and I Thomas are the playmakers, although they often make the play so they themselves can shoot.

    The Celtics are just hoping they have a player like Wade, but they probably don’t.  Maybe they trade Bradley, or maybe they trade Smart, they don’t seem to be a good fit.

    Boston have won a few games recently, but it wasn’t Smart as he was just missing shots.  The energy of new players Thomas, Jerebko and even Datome has been important to them.

      

     

     

     

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  • #970770
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     People who say players like Lavine were a gamble and Ainge made the "safe" pick are the reason the Celtics have been in rebuild mode for a few years and still lack a player with superstar upside.

    It’s not about draft position, because we’ve had chances to go for high upside guys, but for whatever reason getting guys who are NBA-ready has been the MO.

    You know why you don’t draft NBA-ready guys in the lottery?

    Because you can get them everywhere in free agency, late first round and even in the second-round.
     

    Why make a move for your future by investing in the present?

    Why not take a gamble on a guy like Giannis? Or Schroeder? Or Lavine?

    I mean Ainge even said Giannis was like Scottie Pippen.

    We’re getting to be like the Kings in terms of the ridiculous lineup we could have had if we had made the right draft calls.

    Ainge is a great late first-round drafter, but terrible in the lottery. Bah.

    Also yeah, not big on Smart, and if he’s not even going to play PG then why did we draft him?

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #970617
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     People who say players like Lavine were a gamble and Ainge made the "safe" pick are the reason the Celtics have been in rebuild mode for a few years and still lack a player with superstar upside.

    It’s not about draft position, because we’ve had chances to go for high upside guys, but for whatever reason getting guys who are NBA-ready has been the MO.

    You know why you don’t draft NBA-ready guys in the lottery?

    Because you can get them everywhere in free agency, late first round and even in the second-round.
     

    Why make a move for your future by investing in the present?

    Why not take a gamble on a guy like Giannis? Or Schroeder? Or Lavine?

    I mean Ainge even said Giannis was like Scottie Pippen.

    We’re getting to be like the Kings in terms of the ridiculous lineup we could have had if we had made the right draft calls.

    Ainge is a great late first-round drafter, but terrible in the lottery. Bah.

    Also yeah, not big on Smart, and if he’s not even going to play PG then why did we draft him?

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #970772
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      Really thats why we’re a non athletic undersized team with picks like Kelly Olynyk and Jared Sullenger. I really think some C’s fans are blind faithfuls that aren’t being objective.

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    • #970620
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      Really thats why we’re a non athletic undersized team with picks like Kelly Olynyk and Jared Sullenger. I really think some C’s fans are blind faithfuls that aren’t being objective.

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      • #970802
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        I think you have to take into account the type of players that Ainge likes to draft. He usually goes for high IQ players who were really really good in college. Sully, Olynyk, and Smart were all considred top 10 players in college when they played and brought a lot of success to their respective programs. Even the players he trades/signs like Zeller, Crowder, and Turner were all big profile college players who played under good coaches and in good programs. I don’t hate these pick ups because all of these guys are quality players who can contribute something to a basketball team, but I think you have to give the Celtics time to find players that will take a step up.

        Ainge obviously doesn’t want to draft that player, he wants to trade for him, and he has all the tools he needs to make that happen if the opportunity arises. Remember, this is really the first true year of the rebuilding process (Last year we still had Green/Rondo, so I don’t consider that a tank), so Ainge has a lot more moves that he has to make, and it all starts with this draft. 

        I don’t think the Celtics make the Playoffs, so they will def. get another lottery pick this year and also have the Clippers pick. I’d be shocked if they held onto both, but would be happy if they decided to swing for the fences this draft knowing they have the Brooklyn pick next year. People hate the end of the lottery, but yet they get hard thinking about guys like Dennis Shroader, Giannis, Nurkic, Kawhi, Paul George and so on and so on. The Celtics have the chance to get that player this year (assuming they dont win the lottery), and it could be anyone. Maybe they get Kelly Oubre or Bobby Portis and that guy takes the leap at the next level. Maybe they wiff and but got someone like Dakari Johnson with the Sixer pick and he becomes a servicible inside player that they need. Who knows, that’s why sites like this exist and why people still cheer for garbage teams like the TWolves who are in the lottery every year. Because it’s all just baseless speculation, and as fans that’s really all we have to go with. 

        I think you’re right in that us Celtic fans can be too faithful, being a fan of one of the most historic and winningest teams in the continental USA will do that to ya, but I don’t think we’re blind, if anything out eyes are wide open and we see the fantastic position Ainge has put the organization. Smart isn’t the boom or bust pick for us. If he just becomes another Avery it doesn’t matter. We have two 1sts this year, the 76’ers second round pick this year and next which is really underrated imo, we have a potential Minny first round next year if they become a .500 team, we have 5 second round picks in 2016 so we can take a flyer on anyone in the second round if we want to find a hidden gem, have the Brooklyn picks in 2016 and can swap in 2017, Memphis’s pick in 2017, and a 2018 Brooklyn pick….

        For the next three years we will have two picks in the first round, and 4 in the second. That is just ridiculous for a team that is already making playoff pushes. Call it blind, but I’ll call it hopefull. 

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      • #970649
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        I think you have to take into account the type of players that Ainge likes to draft. He usually goes for high IQ players who were really really good in college. Sully, Olynyk, and Smart were all considred top 10 players in college when they played and brought a lot of success to their respective programs. Even the players he trades/signs like Zeller, Crowder, and Turner were all big profile college players who played under good coaches and in good programs. I don’t hate these pick ups because all of these guys are quality players who can contribute something to a basketball team, but I think you have to give the Celtics time to find players that will take a step up.

        Ainge obviously doesn’t want to draft that player, he wants to trade for him, and he has all the tools he needs to make that happen if the opportunity arises. Remember, this is really the first true year of the rebuilding process (Last year we still had Green/Rondo, so I don’t consider that a tank), so Ainge has a lot more moves that he has to make, and it all starts with this draft. 

        I don’t think the Celtics make the Playoffs, so they will def. get another lottery pick this year and also have the Clippers pick. I’d be shocked if they held onto both, but would be happy if they decided to swing for the fences this draft knowing they have the Brooklyn pick next year. People hate the end of the lottery, but yet they get hard thinking about guys like Dennis Shroader, Giannis, Nurkic, Kawhi, Paul George and so on and so on. The Celtics have the chance to get that player this year (assuming they dont win the lottery), and it could be anyone. Maybe they get Kelly Oubre or Bobby Portis and that guy takes the leap at the next level. Maybe they wiff and but got someone like Dakari Johnson with the Sixer pick and he becomes a servicible inside player that they need. Who knows, that’s why sites like this exist and why people still cheer for garbage teams like the TWolves who are in the lottery every year. Because it’s all just baseless speculation, and as fans that’s really all we have to go with. 

        I think you’re right in that us Celtic fans can be too faithful, being a fan of one of the most historic and winningest teams in the continental USA will do that to ya, but I don’t think we’re blind, if anything out eyes are wide open and we see the fantastic position Ainge has put the organization. Smart isn’t the boom or bust pick for us. If he just becomes another Avery it doesn’t matter. We have two 1sts this year, the 76’ers second round pick this year and next which is really underrated imo, we have a potential Minny first round next year if they become a .500 team, we have 5 second round picks in 2016 so we can take a flyer on anyone in the second round if we want to find a hidden gem, have the Brooklyn picks in 2016 and can swap in 2017, Memphis’s pick in 2017, and a 2018 Brooklyn pick….

        For the next three years we will have two picks in the first round, and 4 in the second. That is just ridiculous for a team that is already making playoff pushes. Call it blind, but I’ll call it hopefull. 

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    • #970788
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      at least you haven’t taken 4 point guards in a draft yet. Yeah and for once the Timberwolves went for the home run in the draft with lavine and added wiggins. I hope they draft for potential again this year. Lavine is 2 years away from being a quality player but he works hard and all the tools are there. He also can dunk so we can see him in the dunk contest. They need to draft for the right players who have potential. It seems like it is going to be hard to get a number one and 2 option in the late lottery. Hopefully they don’t get stuck there. They don’t really have any attractive assets other than 1st round picks.

       I think the celtics could waste brad stevens, that is what they are going to have to start worrying about. It is clear he is a great coach. If coach k retires or another big college job opens up he could leave. He could also leave for the bulls if coach thib parts ways with the bulls. 

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    • #970636
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      at least you haven’t taken 4 point guards in a draft yet. Yeah and for once the Timberwolves went for the home run in the draft with lavine and added wiggins. I hope they draft for potential again this year. Lavine is 2 years away from being a quality player but he works hard and all the tools are there. He also can dunk so we can see him in the dunk contest. They need to draft for the right players who have potential. It seems like it is going to be hard to get a number one and 2 option in the late lottery. Hopefully they don’t get stuck there. They don’t really have any attractive assets other than 1st round picks.

       I think the celtics could waste brad stevens, that is what they are going to have to start worrying about. It is clear he is a great coach. If coach k retires or another big college job opens up he could leave. He could also leave for the bulls if coach thib parts ways with the bulls. 

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      • #970796
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         Lavine has a nice shooting touch even if his stats don’t show it. He isn’t a bad defender, and is quick laterally. Handles are promising. Needs to gain some weight but that will happen given time. He will likely end up being a legit 6’6 because he was drafted at 19yrs old. As long if has his head on right, and experience he can be great.

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      • #970643
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         Lavine has a nice shooting touch even if his stats don’t show it. He isn’t a bad defender, and is quick laterally. Handles are promising. Needs to gain some weight but that will happen given time. He will likely end up being a legit 6’6 because he was drafted at 19yrs old. As long if has his head on right, and experience he can be great.

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    • #970800
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       Exactly!! That’s what I’m saying!! We didn’t even have to trade up to grab a center for the future. Rudy Gobert went very late in the first round and he would have addressed huge needs we have had at the Center position instead of essentially drafting a 7’0" PF/PG. I was ranting about this guy and Gorgui Dieng who where both in our draft range. I really think we should sell high on Smart while he still has some "potential" left. Pair Smart up with a pick to move up in this next draft and try and grab Stanley Johnson. Run IT at point for the time being because he has shown he can play very well in Stevens system and he has averaged 6 assists off the bench so I’m not as worried about his passing ability.  Hopefully Lopez opts out of his contract early or we go and give him or Deandre Jordan a nice contract to come to the Celtics. Draft a PF like Christian Wood or Jarrell Martin at PF.

      PG: Isaiah Thomas

      SG: Avery Bradley

      SF: Stanley Johnson

      PF: Sullinger/Martin/Wood

       C: Lopez/Jordan

      For sure a top 6 team in the East with Stevens system.

       

       

       

       

       

       

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    • #970647
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       Exactly!! That’s what I’m saying!! We didn’t even have to trade up to grab a center for the future. Rudy Gobert went very late in the first round and he would have addressed huge needs we have had at the Center position instead of essentially drafting a 7’0" PF/PG. I was ranting about this guy and Gorgui Dieng who where both in our draft range. I really think we should sell high on Smart while he still has some "potential" left. Pair Smart up with a pick to move up in this next draft and try and grab Stanley Johnson. Run IT at point for the time being because he has shown he can play very well in Stevens system and he has averaged 6 assists off the bench so I’m not as worried about his passing ability.  Hopefully Lopez opts out of his contract early or we go and give him or Deandre Jordan a nice contract to come to the Celtics. Draft a PF like Christian Wood or Jarrell Martin at PF.

      PG: Isaiah Thomas

      SG: Avery Bradley

      SF: Stanley Johnson

      PF: Sullinger/Martin/Wood

       C: Lopez/Jordan

      For sure a top 6 team in the East with Stevens system.

       

       

       

       

       

       

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  • #970822
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     Bring him in to turn up the defensive pressure. He does get a lot of steals and is not afraid to take a big shot but seriously Stevens is why they are succeedding more than Marcus hidden attributes. I think he would be a nice peice in a trade. The Celtics  thought they were replacing Rondo but it is obvious he is not a pg. Even with improvement he is not a starting pg. I do like Smart but he was not a PG answer at all. Thomas was brought in for a reason. They gave up already on the pg thing. He will learn to be serviceable there in spot duty yeah.

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  • #970669
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     Bring him in to turn up the defensive pressure. He does get a lot of steals and is not afraid to take a big shot but seriously Stevens is why they are succeedding more than Marcus hidden attributes. I think he would be a nice peice in a trade. The Celtics  thought they were replacing Rondo but it is obvious he is not a pg. Even with improvement he is not a starting pg. I do like Smart but he was not a PG answer at all. Thomas was brought in for a reason. They gave up already on the pg thing. He will learn to be serviceable there in spot duty yeah.

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     Focus on developing a better jumper than Avery Bradley. That should be his goal. In time IT should get his time to start comfortably in the NBA among the elite guards. I was not a Thomas believer as a good NBA player even though i liked him in college. Kid has earned every stripe and he should be viewed as one of the better PG in the L. Not the best but a certified starter, big time player.

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     Focus on developing a better jumper than Avery Bradley. That should be his goal. In time IT should get his time to start comfortably in the NBA among the elite guards. I was not a Thomas believer as a good NBA player even though i liked him in college. Kid has earned every stripe and he should be viewed as one of the better PG in the L. Not the best but a certified starter, big time player.

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