Magic and Nets talking Dwight, there is a proposed deal
Just went up on ESPN, the proposed deal is Marshon Brooks, Kris Humphries, Brook Lopez, and three first round picks in 2013, 2015, and 2017. Lopez and Humphries would need to sign and trade since they are free agents.
It's not the greatest offer, but I guess Rob Hennigan wants this to end. Marshon Brooks has All-Star potential, Kris Humphries is a legit 13 and 10 guy, and Lopez is one of the top 3 scoring centers in the league(Overall he's probably 8th or 9th, due to his abysmal rebounding and D) The only thing I want to see is for the rights to Bogdanovich be included, and I'm assuming that the Magic are hoping for a similar blueprint that the Hornets have adopted, get a couple nice pieces, tank, get more nice young pieces, and you have a legit team. So although it's not the greatest deal, they would have some nice pieces.
The Nets ont he other hand are imediatly contenders, this isn't like Amare and Melo where you have two stars, maybe a defensive big, and then no one else. D-Will and Dwight are Superstars, Joe Johnson is an All-Star and a very good scorer, and Gerald Wallace a relentless athlete that crashes boards and does the little things. Now outside of them there might not be much depth as of now, but the Russian has proven he's willing to shell out money, this will be interesting to watch, but again this isn't a done deal.
I would literally trade him anywhere but NJ. Dwight and the Magic appear to hate each other now so I would definitely not want him to get his way about any of this. Whine and whine and still get to where you want to go? That's not how the world works. Send him to Houston.
^But do you really think that the Magic give a shiit about Dwight's preferences at this point? If there was a better deal elsewhere I'm sure they'd take it, in fact remember that story that leaked saying that Dwight was going to be a Laker at the deadline, and then he decieded to opt-in rather than go to LA.
Sending him to LA for Bynum might even be the best deal for the Magic. Bynum is the best player being offered for Dwight and the fact that Dwight doesn't want to be a Laker is just icing on the cake for me.
yeah, but didnt he say if a Brooklyn deal is not on the table he will just play the season out? I agree with you on getting Bynum for Dwight is the best deal and also that I would want to trade him somewhere besides Brooklyn, but Dwight still has some leverage here.
Team up is getting out of hand. I like it better without all the teaming up you get more balance. All the teaming up is making the L boring with lots of starless games. Some teams are going to need to be terminated. I like when these guys soul purpose was to beat whoever was the best players and send them home. Now its gay. All these guys want to hold hands and be best friends. I like Magic hating Bird Jordan disliking detroit pistons and Thomas. NBA is getting corny.
Are two of my favorite players. They are fine without the buddy buddy sh!t. I like Dirk he stays with his team not crying about team ups.
Kobe was demanding for a trade after he signed his max deal and wasnt winning. he was complaining about Bynum and the lack of ability of his team. it happened in the off-season before the lakers was able to trade for Gasol.
but i get what youre saying. how i wish for a true star to never demand a trade and just goes out there and competes against the best to be the best. trying to elevate his teamates to the kind of players he wants.
the question is if that deal is still in there for them. at this point, swapping Andrew Bynum for Dwight makes a ton of sense for the magic, but does it for the Lakers when they know that Howard will not be signing an extension with them? are they willing to take the gamble of loosing Dwight, a guy who has expressed his displeasure of being there, for nothing when free agency comes around. and is Hedo still attached to all dwight howard trades? thats a fat contract thats hard to swallow and with the lakers' current issues with their pay-role, dont know if they're willing to take on the extra load with Turk's deal.
Sorry, the other post fell of the first page for a bit and I didn't see it,.
And via Chris Broussard's twitter, Deron Williams is working out at the Nets practice facility right now.
I don't know what happens here. I won't be surprised if they deal Dwight Howard to Houston still if they'll take him without a promise of him re-signing. If there is another option, I can't imagine Orlando dealing Dwight for what they are offering considering how dominant New Jersey would become from it. That being said, if no one is willing to take him without a promise of re-signing then New Jersey will likely get him via trade.
Come on Brooklyn , imma Love seeing my hometown teams in the playoffs
Nice post. Decent trade. More or less a win-win for both teams. Orlando finally gets to end all the drama (and gets picks for the future) while the Nets get Dwight. I'm just not sure with Marshon Brooks having all-star potential....haha. Maybe he has a slim chance...but I'm not counting on it. I don't really see him being more than an 18ppg guy with efficiency and other contributions - especially on a winning team. Hopefully this turns out like how trades really should - a win-win for the teams.
Dwight has figured out that the players run this league even after this wasted half a season we went through. Quite unfortunate. I wish that they would send him to Charlotte to the worst team in the League just to send him a message. Dwight is genuinely making LBJ's "decision" look like a respectable thing to do. &$#%#&@! Dwight, his defense is by no means good enough to act the way he does when his offensive game is mildly limited and his ego is on Shaq's level which is far too huge for a player with his small offensive skill level. Again, &$#%#&@! dwight.
It's fu ny because the moment I posted that last thought, I remembered how LBJ was one of the guys in favor of consolidating the league. With all of these super teams forming, it's becooming more and more likely IMO. There are going o be about 14-15 super teams full of 3 and 4 all-stars/superstars and the other half of the league looking like expansion teams.
^I was thinking the same, you have such a great disparity between the haves and have nots, and the worst part is that all the damn superstars want to play in big markets. Lebron fled, Dwight is pushing, D-Will forced his way out of Utah, Melo out of Denver, CP3 out of the Hornets, Bosh defected the Raptors(He's not a superstar, but still an All-Star) Amare to be honest was the only one that did his own thing, he wanted to be in Phoenix, but apparently he was upset that the last two years of Phoenix's proposed contract were non-garunteed(in hindsight that was a genius move, looking at how Amare's doing now), and he went to NY not with the hope of another star joining him(well, Joe Johnson was rumored to go to NY, we all thought it was a done deal, but he chose the money instead). He went his own way, and gave his team a legit chance to sign him.
I saw a tweet by Bill Simmons yesterday reading this: (In Russian accent) "Dwight, you will continue to publicly disgrace yourself until the trade occurs. At that point your family be released."
At this point, I'm actually starting to think somthing along the lines of that may be true.
That was hilarious. I could totally seeing Prokhorov playing some evil genius w/ an old Bruce Willis in Die Hard 14! (or whatever they are up to now in that movie series)... it would still be better than KD's Thunkstruck movie.
I think Jay-Z for Flo Rida makes the most sense.
This trade seems like a steal compared to what NYK gave up for Melo.... and Howard is much more valuable.
i miss the old nba most nba teams had a star or two you could find stars on most teams regardless of market size
i miss the old nba sick and tired of these mini all star teams now. I remember the majority of teams had a star or two on the team whether it be a large or small market team. indidual rivalries are dying now because rivals are teaming up now
Too much too much to give up imo. Deron Williams, Gerald Wallace, Joe Johnson and Dwight Howard makes you a very good team, but that's still going to beat OKC or Miami. Wallace and Johnson are already on the decline a bit, so you have to keep some of your good role players around.
The draft picks are kind of chunky, but the Nets players included are the type that are easily replaceable in free agency. Lopez's lack of rebounding or blocking shots really hurts his value. I've no trouble giving him up.
And yes if the Nets get D Howard, they are a contender as much as anyone who doens't have Lebron is a contender. The Heat will still look better on paper than the Nets. But the Nets would be in a perfect position to attack the Heat at their weakest positions, point guard and center. Haslem and Bosh will have a hard time standing up to a full series of Dwight when Dwight has guards getting him the ball in good spots close to the basket. And then Dwight helping on Lebron postups. Well you could see a way this NJ team could win.