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Luke Harangody

Boston has been very good at drafting 2nd round big men and getting big production out of them. Big Baby has turned into quite a player and they got some great clutch performances out of Leon Powe in the 08 playoffs. Luke Harangody has gotten himself off to a good start in Orlando, dropping 23 in the first game and is sitting with 9 points and 9 rebounds at half. I think Gody can be a good contributer for Boston next year in a similar way that Baby and Powe did as rookies. Both those guys got knocks for being undersized, slow or not very athletic, but in Boston they found a way to get time on a playoff team. Everybody knows his strengths and weaknesses, but you know Gody is gonna put in the work, I don't see any reason he couldn't get minutes next season. What do you guys think?


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His energy and ability to be

His energy and ability to be versatile in the picking game (he can roll and pop for his buckets) will get him in the Celtics rotation. The guy just knows how to play, and you have to look past his lack of athleticism and physical ability and take him for what he is...and that's an NBA player

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'Gody

As much as I have disliked him throughout his college career, this guy can really play. He's best suited as a four, and now with his new-found range he becomes not only a big-bodied rebounder and pick and roll guy, but also a pretty solid pick and pop big (like Iggy said). If only David Kahn could take a crash course in drafting from Danny Ainge and his staff...

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Here is the thing about

Here is the thing about Harangody going to Boston, he isn't going to play. It isn't that he is physically incapable of giving any sort of contribution, on another team he might be a decent situational backup power forward. The reason he won't get minutes is that he isn't as good as Garnett or Davis. He is 6'6" and so is Davis so they cannot play together at the 4 and 5. He doesn't play defense so don't compare him to Powe or Perkins. Unless Garnett's knee falls off again, he is going to wear Scalabrine's suits to the games. Even then, they might be bringiing in more vet bigs (Shaq, the return of Sheed, if not Sheed then a big man who they deal his paper for, Kwame was in for a visit) to pull rank on him.

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Glen Davis is 6'9, not 6'6

Glen Davis is 6'9, not 6'6

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It is cute that you think the

It is cute that you think the listed heights of players are anything more than random numbers put out by a player's agent.

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Davis actually measured 6'9

Davis' measurements given for the NBA Draft Combine were 6'9 in shoes.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Glen-Davis-420/

I agree though, he doesn't seem to be a legitimate 6'9, but I can't argue with the facts.

But like you said, some of these are "Unofficial". Whatever THAT means. Haha.

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Davis never went to the draft

Davis never went to the draft combine, so you can call that unofficial or made up. It doesn't take much to see him stand next to Paul Pierce and clearly be shorter than him. Regardless, a team with Glen Davis is not going to play Luke Harangody. They got the undersized, try hard, semi-skilled backup power forward filled. That is the only role Harangody can play. He can't guard anyone, which doesn't get a player very far in Boston or really any competitive veteran team.

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They had Glen Davis and Powe

They had Glen Davis and Powe together. Both of them played together despite playing the same way and having the same strengths and weaknesses. Harangody can get in their rotation. Glen Davis isn't a great defender either, and Harangody surely puts in the same effort that he does. Both are just limited by their height and athleticism.

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I'm 6' 6" and stood right

I'm 6' 6" and stood right beside Big Baby while he was in college before a game vs Alabama... He's about my height.

I don't know why BTPH is getting negatives lol. He's posting the truth. Gody is a capable rotation player, BUT that doesn't mean he'll get the minutes in Boston next season. Perkins will be out for some time, so maybe he could get some minutes early. Like it was said above, a lot will depend on the free-agent big men they bring in.

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davis is six nine

seen him where i work don't sleep legit six nine not six six

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Shelden Williams and Brian

Shelden Williams and Brian Scalabrinie combined for about 20 minutes per game, not to mention Rasheed's 22.5 minutes per game are going to be gone. They may bring in someone else to play those minutes, but that's also why they drafted Gody, because he is NBA ready and they need minutes at PF, That is 42.5 minutes per game from Boston post players that will most likely not be back with the team. Granted Wallace played some of his minutes at center, but thats over 30 mintues per game left free. I bet Harangody plays at least 15-18 minutes per game, probably for about 6 points and 4.5 rebounds...I consider that contributing.

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@scout4real He's not taller

@scout4real

He's not taller than his former LSU teammate Tyrus Thomas and Thomas is only 6' 8.25" with shoes.

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Glen Davis looks about the

Glen Davis looks about the same height as Perkins so if he is 6'6 than how tall is Perkins

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"Shelden Williams and Brian

"Shelden Williams and Brian Scalabrinie combined for about 20 minutes per game"

Williams didn't play in 28 games and Scalabrine didn't play in 30. Do you want to factor that into your assessment at all? I think they combined for about 58 minutes total over 24 playoff games if that helps.

"They had Glen Davis and Powe together. Both of them played together despite playing the same way and having the same strengths and weaknesses."

Powe was never viewed as unathletic or a defensive liability. He dropped in the draft because of the history of knee injuries. How is that in any way similar to Harangody?

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By the way, for those of you

By the way, for those of you who cited the draftexpress listing as some sort of "fact."

Take a look for yourself by scrolling to the bottom.

* players marked with an * have an unofficial measurement that look reasonable.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=&year=2007&...
http://www.draftexpress.com

I was much closer to the whole made up thing than I thought.

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Maybe it's been a while since

Maybe it's been a while since you've seen him play but Leon Powe is not at all known for his athleticism. His knee problems took his athleticism for the most part. As it is, I wasn't comparing his reason for falling in the draft to Harangody's. I was comparing their roles on the Celtics team.

Powe was an energetic banger who could make mid-range shots and was versatile in the picking game, just like Harangody is. Let's not act like Leon Powe doesn't have similarities to Harangody in terms of how they play.

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So you don't think Haragody

So you don't think Haragody is going to get even 15 minutes per game?

Those guys are scrubs is my point, Haragody is better, he adds more to the team, he'll play those garbage minutes, but he's good enough to contribute more than Sheldon and Brian.

Powe 20 and 10 player in a major conference, very skilled offensively, a bit undersized 2nd round pick
Harangody 20 and 10 player in a major conference, very skilled offensively, a bit undersized 2nd round pick

No 2 players are the same, two players can play similarly yet different and fit in a system the same or a similar way.

Tony Allen isn't James Posey, but they played very similar roles in that system, I think Harangody can play a similar role as Powe ( who provided scoring and rebounding off the bench as well as energy )

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No, but you did say that

No, but you did say that because Powe played at the same time as Davis so could Harangody which is absurd. During his time with the Celtics, Powe was far from a defensive liability and did not lack for having enough athleticism to do his job on that end. You also seem to think he has a jump shot that isn't really there. As for Harangody, there is no screening in that game. The guy never did a thing off the ball at Notre Dame.

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You must not be watching how

You must not be watching how he's playing off the ball in the Summer League right now.

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"So you don't think Haragody

"So you don't think Haragody is going to get even 15 minutes per game?

Those guys are scrubs is my point, Haragody is better, he adds more to the team, he'll play those garbage minutes, but he's good enough to contribute more than Sheldon and Brian.

Powe 20 and 10 player in a major conference, very skilled offensively, a bit undersized 2nd round pick
Harangody 20 and 10 player in a major conference, very skilled offensively, a bit undersized 2nd round pick

No 2 players are the same, two players can play similarly yet different and fit in a system the same or a similar way.

Tony Allen isn't James Posey, but they played very similar roles in that system, I think Harangody can play a similar role as Powe ( who provided scoring and rebounding off the bench as well as energy )"

Leon Powe played defense. He got minutes as a second round rookie with defense-first Boston before his knee acted up, and then caught on with defense-first Cleveland. Harangody never guarded a soul at Notre Dame. Please stop with that comparison.

The Celtics are trying to extend closing championship window. They are going to be adding veterans. Do you really think Boston is looking into Shaq, Brad Miller, Kwame Brown, and every other big man without a team because they want to be in a position where they are playing rookies? I don't think Bradley, Semih Erden, or Harangody are going to be all that important for Boston. I think that over the course of 82 games with many 30-somethings on the roster and Kendrick Perkins virtually assured of missing the first quarter of the year that they will see some floor time. It doesn't mean they'll matter. In fact, I'm quite certain that the more they play, the less likely the Celtics will be of winning.

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"You must not be watching how

"You must not be watching how he's playing off the ball in the Summer League right now."

Most of that time was spent confused for why when he had his hands out looking for a pass that he didn't automatically have his teammates throw him the ball.

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You're right they are trying

You're right they are trying to win a championship and they are a veteran team who will bring in veterans, I know they're looking at Miller and Brown to fill the void left by Wallace, but lets face it, old players get hurt, get banged up and sit out more and thats when Gody will play. I don't know where you think I said that he's a reincarnation of Leon Powe or that he was going to be getting big minutes. Powe averaged like 7 and 5 his rookie year and Baby averaged like 5 and 3, they were bench players but both stepped up at times and contributed. All I said is that they are all 2nd round picks and that Gody can play an energy role off the bench like those two did as rookies in 07-08...Gody is gonna rebound and shoot jumpers, Powe was a little different, Baby is a little different but you can't tell me he didn't provide energy off the bench. Thats all I'm trying to say.

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Going from "getting minutes"

Going from "getting minutes" as you originally wrote to where you are now with "old players get hurt, get banged up and sit out more and thats when Gody will play" is quite the leap. This whole thing started when I pointed out that the Celtics have better front court players than Harangody and are looking to bring in even more, which is why he won't play. I even pointed out that if Garnett's knee falls off again he might get on the floor. What was wrong with that?

I just think some people cannot handle even the slightest bit of realism when looking at players and situations. Switch him with Hansbrough in Indy, he probably gets those same 15-20 minutes per and Hansbrough waits for someone to get hurt. Take notice of Jon Brockman in Sacramento. When he was healthy last year, he was getting 10-15 minutes per. Now that they have Cousins, Landry, Thompson, and Dalembert in their front court, he won't unless someone gets hurt.

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I'm not going back on

I'm not going back on anything I said, but you take everything very literally so I felt the need to break down in what situations he'd get minutes, which in part is what you said, but I guess I think he'll get more minutes in non injury situations. Maybe we have different definitions of getting minutes, I think a guy who comes off the bench, gives the stars a spell and produces a little is getting minutes. Thats a good point about Brockman, but bringing in a couple aging centers isn't going to effect Gody's minutes that much. I never made any bolder predictions that he would get about 15 minutes per game and put up 6 points and 4.5 boards, which I think is a good team role for him. The only reason I made this post in the first place is because I think he'll make the roster and contribute off the bench, he's a good guy to have and I know what he can and can't do, not a guy to rely on, but someone who could spell your power forward in foul trouble and get you 10 and 5 in a close game, and then the next game give you 3 and 3 in like 7 minutes. I realize the reality of Boston's situation, but they haven't signed anyone yet, I don't know who they are going to get to fill that roster so as of now the possibility of Kwame Brown or Brad Miller doesn't mean a whole lot.

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Whatever, I'm sure you

Whatever, I'm sure you started this thread because you are excited about the injury-caused filler minutes you thought Harangody was going to get.

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btph

i gotta say when he believes something he is going to argue it to his grave but i gotta agree with him this time. summer league performances are usually overblown and garnett and davis are going to play alot. i think the celtics thin davis is garnetts replacement. i think the only way gody gets minutes is in garbage time or if kg or davis go down to an injury. he is an nba player just not on this team. he may get 3 to 4 mpg over 40 games.

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