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Lucas Nogueira reminds me of Peter John Ramos

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Lucas Nogueira reminds me of Peter John Ramos

Freak athlete with freakish length who never reaches his potential because of attitude problems.

Anyone remember Peter John, drafted by the Wizards in the second round of the 2004 draft?


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Holly crap this draft (2013)

Holly crap this draft (2013) is very similar to that 2004 draft. Lots of international players in the first round, a similar big man went first overall, a tall point guard went top 10. Other similarities in that draft. The 2013 draft is 2004 draft all over again!

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???

Remind me of who's Peter John Ramos.

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athlete

since when is a 28 inch vertical considered freakish?

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Did you ever see Peter John

Did you ever see Peter John Ramos play? PJR was huge and massive, very strong, but he was a horrible athlete. He was a stiff with horrible foot speed and no vertical leaping ability. He as far too mechanical to even be a rotational shot blocker in the league. Their height is the only thing you can compare about the two, physically Peter John Ramos was a giant. To his credit PJR did improve on his skills but his only asset is his ability to body bigs in the post defensively. Nogueira's impact on both ends of the ball will be because of his athleticism.

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This site has a long list of

Are you serious

This site has a long list of bad comparisons

Deshawn Stevenson - Jordan

Chen Jianghua - A.I.

And now this....

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Haha what in the world???

Haha what in the world??? They have similar measurements. They are both very mobile for their size and both are international prospects. Calm down brah, I never compared him to Jordan like Aran Smith did.

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Have you ever seen either play

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I mean this is one of the rare cases where even just youtube highlights would show the differences

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soooooooo

How exactly is (or was) PJ Ramos a freakish athlete? He was a behemoth for sure, but the man could not jump over a piece of paper.. And how exactly is 7'3-290 the same as 7'0-220 ? This is just wrong man. Do not decide that players look like each other just because you see some emphatic dunks and blocks in highlight reels. The only thing these two share is their position (Bebe's attitude has reportedly been improving)...

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he reminds me of marcus camby

he reminds me of marcus camby with a dwight howard brain, but i love him as a prospect.

Boston college's sean williams is another name that comes to mind, but that's harsh.

I think he has immense potential as a power forward down the road. No power forwards are going to be blocking his still improving hook shot, and he has touch on his set shot.

People forget that camby and even kg got outmuscled down low plenty of times over the years, and it didnt negate their other defensive abilities.
He'll prob never be camby, but he doesnt need to be to be a great pick anywhere in this draft.

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Peter John Ramos wasn't an

Peter John Ramos wasn't an international prospect. People born in Puerto Rico have American citizenship.

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You could say he wasn't a FOREIGN prospect but if

you play in another nation, that IS international.

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Puerto Rico has their own

Puerto Rico has their own FIBA team. Renaldo Balkman was born in Staten Island but he still plays for the Puerto Rican national team because his mother is Puerto Rican.

Carmelo Anthony was eligible to play for Team Puerto Rico because his father is Puerto Rican, but he opted out to play for Team USA.

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Ramos can actually hit 3's

Ramos can actually hit 3's and had a solid 18 foot jumpshot. Ramos can show off his hook shot and has a couple of moves in the post.

He's a 7"3 280 lb Center.

Lucas is 7"0 200 lbs who block shots.

Ramos isn't a shot blocker because he has t-rex arms.

Ramos is also very strong where as Lucas doesnt have much strength.

Despite Ramos strength he isn't a strong rebounder, his footwork is poor and he uses his body as he sound.

Ramos is a draft bust because of his mental downfall...he doesn't have patience and never wanted to put in the hard work to be an NBA player.

When he was in Washington DC, I had him as a MySpace friend and he would spend most of his day picking up some girls on MySpace and enjoying the NBA rookie life.

I'll never forget Ramos' first minutes as a Wizard when he scored 6 points against Shaq.

He's a better player now than he was 18, he's good enough to be a 3rd string center in the NBA, but certainly not a back up or starter.

Two totally different players.

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I don't think a 7'5" wingspan

I don't think a 7'5" wingspan is "t-rex arms"

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7"3 is a mammoth size for a

7"3 is a mammoth size for a center. 7" foot is nice, but you rarely find 7"3 centers. even Roy Hibbert is 7"2

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