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The Lonzo Ball Era

Sorry I'm late...had to record..been waiting too long for dragon stone..

LETS GET IT. This is the beginning of the Lonzo era. He makes passing the ball cool. #impressive. #lightskinnedconnect


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Ive watched greg oden, kevin

Ive watched greg oden, kevin Durant, Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennet, steph Curry, Brandon Jennings.

Lonzo Has had the most impressive summer league and it's not even close

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Lonzo's passes are colder

Lonzo's passes are colder than the Night King's heart lol.

He's definitely making passing the ball cool. Not just to get assists either, but just to move the ball and actually give it up quick.

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The guy who's averaging more

The guy who's averaging more fga than points, is shooting less than 35% from the field, less than 20% from 3, can't guard his own shadow and is averaging a ton of to's is having the most impressive SL you've ever seen?!? You should get out more.

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I know a hater when I see one

I know a hater when I see one

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The red god sees beyond

The red god sees beyond stats.

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lol, where did you get those

lol, where did you get those stats?

16.3ppg......14.8fga

38fg%

24 3pt%

also just watch the games, he is dominating. Best player on the court almost every night out since that terrible opener.

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He was at 17ppg and 17.8fga

He was at 17ppg and 17.8fga before last night. His shooting is &$#%#[email protected]! awful, and he's been getting torched by everyone he's matched up against. The kid can pass. His touch on some of those outlets is impressive. But, summer league is the NBA equivalent of AAU ball. All those leakouts and wide open shots due to missed defensive assignments aren't happening in an actual NBA game. He's also not gonna be on the floor after airballing unnecessary step-back 3's then giving up repeated buckets on the other end. These observations aren't "hating", they're an honest assessment of his game. If you want to believe he's the next Magic, that's on you, but be prepared to be INCREDIBLY disappointed.

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Good thing 19 year olds

Good thing 19 year olds rookies can improve their games and get better. I mean even assuming he struggles out the gate, he has the size skills and moves around the court with the ease and fluidity to suggest he has lots of room to grow. And it's not like his leak out passes are just to wide open guys, he's threading needles in tight windows. Last night he outplayed Dennis smith who is considered one of the better rookies plus yogi was a solid rookie last year in the NBA. The game before zo went up against a nets team that featured 5 wings (Hollis-Jefferson, levert, dinwiddie, whitehead, Goodwin) who all have NBA experience and he still looked terrific.

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He most certainly did not

He most certainly did not outplay Smith. Outside of the first two 3's Ball hit coming off of a screen, Smith destroyed him when they were matched up. Got into the lane at will, hit pull-ups in his eye, had him on foul trouble (if that were a thing in SL),etc... You gotta taje your Lakers blinders off, bud.

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Lol, you are way too gassed

Lol, you are way too gassed up on one on one stuff and don't comprehend team basketball if you think smith outplayed ball. Ball impacted game more then the smith did, not an argument at all and you don't understand basketball if you disagree.

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Lol at "don't understand

Lol at "don't understand basketball." I played in college, played professionally (not NBA) and now coach. I've forgotten more about the game than you'll ever know. I'm not saying Ball can't play, I'm saying he's not this transcendent, generational talent y'all think he's going to be. I'm not sure if he's even a legit NBA player right now. This is the summer league, which is glorified pick-up ball. He's not doing any of this in the regular season. I'll gladly come back and apologize if I'm wrong, but it'd be damn near the only time I've been wrong about basketball.

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Typical Lonzo hater. Classic

Typical Lonzo hater. Classic I played college basketball hahahahaha. If he isn't a legit NBA player what do you have to say about the other rookies this summer that haven't done half of what he has.

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I'm interested to hear you talk about Markelle Fultz

in Summer League. 25% from the field (granted it was one game, but still). Josh Jackson shot 42% and the best player in this year's draft (according to "mrgreener_24" after a couple summer league games) Jayson Tatum shot 42% too. I question how you can use his shooting stats in summer league like that for Lonzo and ignore it for other people? Even Steph Curry and Derrick Rose shot in the 30's in their first summer league. Both have 3 MVP's between them. With that said, I'm only concerned with Lonzo's 3pt shot becoming consistent. Outside of that, I don't care if he doesn't score efficiently at this point. That's not why he was drafted.

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I really don't see how people

I really don't see how people can watch him play and still hate. He plays the game the right way, high bball IQ, humble kid, makes his teammates, and you can tell his teammates love playing with him. This man says no more than 5 words per sentence and has more haters than anyone in NBA right now. You can hate Lavar if you want but respect this man

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Haters

Haters only watch Lavar's comments on youtube, they don't watch the actual games of summer league lol

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He knows how to exploit his

He knows how to exploit his strengths, which is a remarkable trait. Lethal on the fastbreak.

I had a post about a theory of why today's NBA guards are averaging so many rebounds (Harden, Westbrook, etc?); simply put, guards reaching for easy def. rebounds, translates to more time for others (specially big men) to run the break and get in position. Lonzo will be great particularly at this, greatly benifiting from an "up" in his def. rebounding #s, beacuse it will feed transition offense.

I have doubts as to how much he will be able to succesfully exploit this "transition offense", in regards to his stardom status. However, there is no doubt has ever been a better era to fit his style of play.

Has he dominated halfcourt offense, iso-ball, P&R? no, but he finds a way never to get to that point. Always on the move. Smart. Plays off defense mistakes.

Since 2012, him, Kyle Anderson, and Ben Simmons have shown the best court vision out of any prospect in CBB. I 'm exited for Lonzo because he is the only true PG out of those 3.

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I've watch every Laker game

I've watch every Laker game for the last four years and I watch with hope. The hope they'll some day be good. That some rookie will play well. Now I can watch with enjoyment. Less cringing.

Please also trade Randle or Nance ASAP. Kuzma plays too well with Ball. And Kuzma's remarkably consistent.

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Half court

His half court offense is a lot better than he has been given credit for. He runs a nice pick and roll and he is not just a transition player. He gives the defense no room for mistakes because if you take off for a second as a defender he's threading the needle to a wide open scorer. When watching him I kept thinking how many assists would he have if he was passing to Brook Lopez instead of Zubac. I see KCP having a huge year playing next to lonzo as well as Julius Randle. Lonzos assist numbers are going to be insane once he is playing 36 mins a night with nba talent.

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The good thing for Lakers

The good thing for Lakers fans is they get to watch their starters in summer league next year too, probably the year after as well

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Lonzo can certainly pass

Lonzo can certainly pass better than just about anyone. He is also a bit of a bricklayer, from the evidence of this short sample.

I remember Magic early on, though. Guy shoot at all. He looked like a shot putter and his jumpers hit the rim like the ball was made of lead.

I don't think it is going to matter in the short term that his shooting needs development. He will clearly work on that aspect of his game. Stardom in the NBA, though, is usually reserved for the guys with one otherworldly skill and he is one of the best passers we have seen come into the league in awhile. You have to think the other guys on his team are smiling thinking about the opportunities he is going to create for them, 4/12 shooting nights be damned.

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He has excellent touch on his

He has excellent touch on his entry passes. I would like to see him get in the paint more, make a play or get to the line. This would open up his outside shot. It would also put more pressure on opposing teams via foul trouble. Not to mention it would keep his PnR honest.

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Lonzo is a Laker

AND has a loud mouth dad that everybody hates. It doesn't matter what he does on the court he will most likely always be disliked by those outside of Laker nation... no matter how good he is on the court.

And he is going to be great. If you watch the games and can't see how good the kid is then you are a poor talent evaluator. Routinely pointing at what he can't do, or is not doing well in this case shooting is completely disregarding how impactful he is on the court. His hands are all over the game, if you watch it is obvious. There hasn't been a rookie in the past few years that has had this kind of impact, even only in summer league. He's by far the best rookie in this class and is the only one that will make his team better from day one.

Smith JR won't do that, as he didn't in their match up despite his empty stats they were getting blown out by almost 30 at one point. Ditto with Fultz. Those are not guys who make their teams better.

I hear a lot of discussion between Simmons and Ball as well. There really is no comparison. Simmons is closer to Rondo than anything else. He is only making the pass when he gets an assist. He doesn't advance the Ball like Lonzo. He doesn't play in an unselfish manner the likes of which are rarely seen in the NBA.

Keep telling yourself that Simmons, Fultz and DSJ are better because they put up better numbers. Lonzos team will find more success in terms of winning, much faster than those other guys.

It's also funny how the biggest knock on Lonzo is his shooting form, even though we have seen it go in at a clip that Simmons will never be able to achieve, yet Simmons is surely to improve his. Best case he becomes as good of a shooter as Lonzo is now. And their passing is not comparable.

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He has somthing lazy about

He has somthing lazy about him that he needs to fix, even the way he do stretches...

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I don't understand why

I don't understand why everyone is so hyped about his summer league. Summer league in general is just a good chance for young guys to get out there and play. But you shouldn't make proclimations based on the summer league. If im not mistaken Jerryd Bayless averaged 30ppg in 2008 and look at him now. I'm just saying, lets just say this kid is showing some talent but to proclaim that this is the Lonzo Ball era is too much.

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Lonzo looks really good. He

Lonzo looks really good. He is basically a playmaker. Needs to get that in-between game. Hit a floater in one game, a post move last night. He needs to find a way to get 15-16 a night other than uncontested layups and 3 pointers.

Probably need to play Jordan Clarkson with him as a secondary ball handler and a guy who can defend point guards (hopefully). I can see Lonzo guarding 2 guard's more. Or, slower small forwards. I think Lonzo can be a solid team defender and a guy who can get steals/blocks even if he never turns into a lockdown one-on-one defender.

He has as much Larry Bird in his game as Magic. Likes the long-ball. Has an unorthodox wind-up but when it goes in it looks GREAT. Quick passing, ball handling. Touch passes. Can pass in traffic. Rebounds well. More of a quiet leader. Can selectively fast break.

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