LIKELY undrafted players who you feel will find their way onto an NBA roster sooner or later
Tiny point guard but can shoot the lights out especially from 3. He is also a good floor general and shows a knack for leadership (MVP of Portsmouth Invatanional) The only knock on his game is his size, but he has a lot of heart and I think he can find a spot in the league sooner rather than later.
NBA teams are always looking for big, active bodies who at the very least can play some D and take up some fouls. Here is a guy who is what I consider a specialist, a rebounding machine. He has a very good body frame and has good strength. Not very athletic or explosive but is Shelden Williams can find a spot with the Celtics, then Mac Koshwal can find a spot somewhere in the league.
Very skinny, but has a good all around game and a solid skill set. A jack of all trades, great at nothing but good at just about everything. Due to his skinny frame he will be far below NBA standards and will likely be pushed around on defense (even point guards) But an offensive power house team than plays no D (like the Warriors) can take a chance on him as he does have an excellent all around offensive game. If he can gain weight and strength this will lengthen his career and better his chances of landing a spot on an NBA roster.
A good prospect in my eyes. Should at least be a guarantee in the late 2nd round, but his stock has been all over the board. He is undersized, but shows a diversified low post game. Will eventually find a spot in the league. Game is very similar to a young Malik Rose, who had a long career by being a low post threat and post defender off the bench. Undersized and not a great rebounder, but a team looking for a low post presence off the bench can take a chance on this kid.
He is a small guy, but he was a big time player in his one season at Oklahoma. If you can average 15 and 5 (shoot 40% for 3) you have got some serious game. He is a solid point guard. Although his chances of getting drafted are VERY slim, I feel if he does his thing in the D-League or Overseas, he will eventually find his way onto a team in need of a backup point guard. A poor man's Jammer Nelson. Can become a very valuable role player off the bench with his passing, ability to get into the paint, and knock down 3's.
Andy Rautin's, Sylven Landsburg, Scottie Reynolds, Jerome Dyson, JP Prince, Tyler Smith
The kid is so passionate and do a little bit of everything. A defensive specalist in the future!
They'll amke rosters and start for a team one day sooner than later...Reynolds is better than Darren Collison...His All American Honors speak to that...Smith should have went pro 2 years ago...He'll be the next Josh Howard...
Koshwal will get a look, the guy is a beast. Lazar will get a look as well if he goes undrafted.
@ScareCrow215Legend, Reynolds is a little bit better of a shooter maybe but he is in no way better than Collison.
I say Marqus Blakely and Sylven Landesberg
Landry Fields from Stanford and Jerome Randles running mate Patrick Christopher. Fields has been compared to Odom (strictly because of his versatility) and Chrisopher is lights out from 3
saw severla mocks that dont have desean butler getting drafted because of the knee injury id assume totally agree on reynolds being an nba player but no way hes better in the nba then d collison
Yeah, he is a pretty good all around player. Problem is he is a below average perimeter shooter. He is a good passer and rebounder for his size, but like you said, his main selling point is his abilty to defend. He is very long and wiry, and has good enough athleticism to eventually develop into the "defensive specialist" mold. If he can somehow develop a more reliable shot, he can make a roster. But in today's game where being able to keep the defense honest is a must (espeically as a guard), I don't see Prince making it unless he improves his shooting. Similar to Dominick McGuire (not as athletic) and he's in the L so maybe he can find a spot. Both are long, lanky wings with good rebounding/passing ability but not consistent enough of a shooter to be anything more than a 10th man at best. I'm rooting for Prince though because I love player's like him with his size who are able to rebound, pass and defend as well as he does.
maybe he can completely dissapear like he did in the ncaa tourney game and if your game is altered so badly by uch a little thing as not starting guess what - you dont belong in the nba- you all can completely forget the small school guys except for blakely but guess what novas butt was almost toasted in the first round by a guy you claim belongs in the nba - GET REAL!!!
So his whole worth as an NBA player you're going to base off of a couple of games? How about last year when he led Nova to the final 4? How about the fact that he did lead this Nova team to a hot start before something (which I'll get to) derailed the team? He has matured a lot since his Freshman year on the court and he has the abilities to be a solid backup point in the league. As far as what happened to him in the tourny and really a lot during the second half of the season, it wasn't because he was benched, it's because there was a lot of in fighting within the team because Fish IMPREGNATED HIS GIRLFRIEND! I don't know about you but I would not want to be on the same team as someone who did that. And the fact that players choice sides in this ordeal caused friction with everyone. Its unfortunate but don't discredit him for 1 or 2 poor performances, look at his entire body of work and abilities.
A few others I think could make it
Jerome Dyson will make a team if A.J. Price made one which he did. Sylven Landsburg has a shot to make a team but probably not next year. Prince has a shot but not next year either. Manny Harris has skills but I don't know if he is a NBA guy. I think Dee Bost would be a pro if he had stayed at MSU for 3 or 4 years. I think he will make a team also but not next year. Tyler Smith will make a team next year and be a productive 8th man type.
Da'Sean Butler - if he doesnt get drafted
Scottie Reynolds isn't an NBA guard. He's not a true PG at all, he's not physically gifted or a good athlete, and he scores off of mostly bad shots. Better than Darren Collison? HELL no.
I think JP Prince has a chance because of his defensive ability and versatility, but he won't be able to score in the NBA.
I think people are sleeping on Jerome Randle as well. He's a nice scorer and he does all the little things to make up for his lack of size.
Andy Rautins will play a role somewhere on a good team.
You just said in another thread hell play in Europe?
Jeremy Lin! He kind of plays like Derek Fisher IMO.
Jeremy Lin was a very good college player but I don't think his game could be comparable to Derek Fisher. Their height difference is significant (about 2 or 3 inches) and Lin is more a slashing point guard who relies a lot on his athletic ability to finish. He is also a pretty good shooter but not in the same way Derek Fisher is nor does he rely on his jump shot as much. Lin could find a spot in the NBA I feel because he is a big point guard who has excellent athletic ability and can get to the hoop. The problem is he is not a true point guard and undersized to play SG so his chances aren't all that great in my opinion of landing an NBA roster. Possible, YES, but not likely. Team's looking to sell tickets could take a chance, though, as it would be a great story of a Chinese player from Harvard making in the League (no racial) and could possibly attract more Asian fans. Me being Asian I know I would follow him game to game and hope he has success.
I disagree about Scottie not being an NBA guard. Although I don't believe he will be as effective as collison, I see him as a solid backup point/ combo guard in the league. He improved his shot selection from his freshman year to his senior year. A lot of the bad shots that he took were due to the offense becoming stagnant and him looking to spark the offense. Before the whole controversy he was playing very effective and efficient basketball. He showed the ability to run the point effectively at times but he is better suited to play off the ball. I think in the right type of offense he could be solid. He isn't athletic but he knows how to use his body. He finds his spots and gets his defender off balance. He is also a good shooter who can become hot in an instant. If he plays on a team like the Blazers with a ball dominant off guard like Roy his skills could be optimized. I don't see any reason he can't have a Steve Blake type career.
He won't have a Steve Blake type career because he's not the defender or playmaker Blake is.
Scottie Reynolds doesn't do anything at an NBA level really. He's a good shooter, but I have questions about how he'll get his shot off and whether he'll be effective in the lane. Also hurts that he's not going to be a good defender and he's not a PG. Scottie Reynolds is a question marks to me. Doesn't really have alot going for him, and I doubt he can function as an Eddie House type because he's not at that level where he's a specialist.
Was a consensus Top 20 pick at the beggining of the year.
He is 6`10 225 with a 7 foot wingspan and good explosiveness.His athletic abillity is for sure at an NBA level.He has a very good post game and a capable face up.He lacks fundimentals and a motor and drastically hurt his stock with his most recent campaign that is why he has slipped out of the 2010 mock drafts.
Steve Blake isnt a good defender either he's adequate just like Reynolds. He wasn't great on the defensive end but he wasn't a complete liability. In last years tourny Nova's D was suffocating and he played a part in that. He did average 2 steals and played decent on the ball d. Blake is an adequate playmaker but he's more a game manager. His assist numbers aren't off the charts. Scottie averaged 4 assists which isnt awful but ya I'd give the advantage there to Blake. But Scottie is a better overall shooter than him and has better body control. He's one of those players like Andre Miller that just know how to position himself to make things happen.
Why do you keep comparing him to PG's? He's no Andre Miller or Steve Blake. Steve Blake is a much better defender than Reynolds is. And easily a better playmaker, and "game manager" as you call it. Andre Miller is a better playmaker and is less reliant on spot up shooting than Scottie Reynolds is. They are nothing alike outside of having mediocre athleticism.
Scottie Reynolds isn't very comparable to any NBA player IMO, and if you do make a comparison it should be to a combo guard with middling athleticism. And since there aren't many of those, it's going to be hard for him to make it.
I'm comparing certain attributes that these players have that make them successful in the league. Scottie can finish at the hoop, has good body control and can get hot shooting. He has improved his shot selection over the last four years but hasnt lost the ability to take and make off balanced shots. He also improved his basketball IQ over the years and uses pump fakes effectively to keep his defender off balance.
He does have obvious weaknesses such as his lack of athleticism and height. He isn't ever going to be the best on the ball defender either. What he does though is playing passing lanes pretty well, help defend, use angles to guide the offensive players into the teeth of the defense.
Overall I don't think he's going to be a starter but I do think he's be a solid backup IMO. I hated Scottie when he first got to nova becuase I thought he was a ball hog that didnt play within the offense at all but he's grown on me as he's matured over the years.
Manny Harris, Samardo Samuels, Jerome Dyson should all get drafted....and possibly Koshwal
Pablo Aguilar,JP Prince, Tyler Smith, Elijah Milsap,Andrew Ogilvy,Tim Ohlbrecht,Ryan Thompson