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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 1:32pm #57131

SeattleSuperChronics
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If lebron goes to the cavs…
how much better do you think he could make wiggins? Anyone have a feeling Lebron will make wiggins a super star. Wiggins has a chance to be the luckiest #1 pick in nba history.
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 2:05pm #932915

gbmantis
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Pippen 2.0
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- Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 3:26pm #932966
  
  Grandmama
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  Offensively Wiggins will never be a Pippen type. Pippen was a point-forward who had great handles and vision. Wiggins just isn’t that same caliber of play-maker with the ball in his hands. On defense Wiggins should become a star, but offensively he just doesn’t compare to Pippen one bit.
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  - Posted on: Wed, 07/09/2014 - 4:04am #933654
    
    The8thDeadlySin
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    People forget 2 things about Pippen. First, at his small school, D2, he was the PG on offense and the best big man on defense. He did everything at a high level and that’s why he was drafted. PG court vision with great defensive and rebounding instincts. Second, he played in the Triangle for his prime years. The Triangle requires that all guards have great passing skills. This put Pippen in what would be considered the PG role more often than not.
    So, I agree, he will never be Pippen. Similar body types and athleticism but not similar play styles at all. I expect Wiggins to spend most of this year as a spot up shooter. Was that ever Pippens role?
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  - Posted on: Wed, 07/09/2014 - 4:04am #933526
    
    The8thDeadlySin
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    People forget 2 things about Pippen. First, at his small school, D2, he was the PG on offense and the best big man on defense. He did everything at a high level and that’s why he was drafted. PG court vision with great defensive and rebounding instincts. Second, he played in the Triangle for his prime years. The Triangle requires that all guards have great passing skills. This put Pippen in what would be considered the PG role more often than not.
    So, I agree, he will never be Pippen. Similar body types and athleticism but not similar play styles at all. I expect Wiggins to spend most of this year as a spot up shooter. Was that ever Pippens role?
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- Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 3:26pm #933097
  
  Grandmama
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  Offensively Wiggins will never be a Pippen type. Pippen was a point-forward who had great handles and vision. Wiggins just isn’t that same caliber of play-maker with the ball in his hands. On defense Wiggins should become a star, but offensively he just doesn’t compare to Pippen one bit.
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 2:05pm #933047

gbmantis
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Pippen 2.0
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 2:28pm #932925

WITNESS2014
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Working out and training with Lebron might help him out a little bit… lol
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 2:28pm #933057

WITNESS2014
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Working out and training with Lebron might help him out a little bit… lol
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 2:43pm #932933

Chilbert arenas
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Does anyone else think there might actually be more pressure put on Wiggins since expectations will go from rebuilding to championship or bust?
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 2:43pm #933065

Chilbert arenas
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Does anyone else think there might actually be more pressure put on Wiggins since expectations will go from rebuilding to championship or bust?
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 2:44pm #932935

mixtape2003
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Kyrie, Lebron , and Wiggins on a fast break would be scary
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 2:44pm #933067

mixtape2003
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Kyrie, Lebron , and Wiggins on a fast break would be scary
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 3:06pm #932948

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I don’t buy that it would somehow put more pressure on him. It would defenitly take a lot of pressure off, he won’t have to handle the ball much, and can just stick to what he’s good at: defense, transition, set shooting, and cutting. I like the Pippen comparison, except a shooting guard version. He can have a great rookie year just playing hard and making a decent amount of open 3s.
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 3:06pm #933079

hbomb3300
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I don’t buy that it would somehow put more pressure on him. It would defenitly take a lot of pressure off, he won’t have to handle the ball much, and can just stick to what he’s good at: defense, transition, set shooting, and cutting. I like the Pippen comparison, except a shooting guard version. He can have a great rookie year just playing hard and making a decent amount of open 3s.
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 3:28pm #932968

Grandmama
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Lebron would definitely help in the development of Wiggins. How much? Obviously nobody can answer that, but he would for sure help.
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 3:28pm #933099

Grandmama
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Lebron would definitely help in the development of Wiggins. How much? Obviously nobody can answer that, but he would for sure help.
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 4:17pm #933125

he_gets_buckets
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I don’t think they keep Wiggins if LeBron signs there. I think that he would be the bare minimum Flip Saunders would be demanding in a trade for K-Love, and I don’t think Cleveland would be too hard pressed to do a Wiggins for K-Love trade(obviously with other contracts involved to fix salary)
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 4:17pm #932994

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I don’t think they keep Wiggins if LeBron signs there. I think that he would be the bare minimum Flip Saunders would be demanding in a trade for K-Love, and I don’t think Cleveland would be too hard pressed to do a Wiggins for K-Love trade(obviously with other contracts involved to fix salary)
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/08/2014 - 6:00am #933140
  
  drpg913
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  This makes sense. I have been thinking that this whole time. You think Lebron is terribly excited to play with Wiggins? He’s never played an NBA game. He’s played with and against Love for 6 years now. Flip Saunders is no fool Dion Waiters isn’t enough to get Love from Minnesota and neither is Bennett.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/08/2014 - 6:00am #933271
  
  drpg913
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  This makes sense. I have been thinking that this whole time. You think Lebron is terribly excited to play with Wiggins? He’s never played an NBA game. He’s played with and against Love for 6 years now. Flip Saunders is no fool Dion Waiters isn’t enough to get Love from Minnesota and neither is Bennett.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:44pm #933468
  
  AusBob
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  On the other hand, Rubio, Lavine with Wiggins sounds like a fun team to watch 😀
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  - Posted on: Wed, 07/09/2014 - 3:43am #933640
    
    drpg913
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    It’s never fun watching a young group of guys lose a lot of games.
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  - Posted on: Wed, 07/09/2014 - 3:43am #933512
    
    drpg913
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    It’s never fun watching a young group of guys lose a lot of games.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/08/2014 - 11:44pm #933596
  
  AusBob
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  On the other hand, Rubio, Lavine with Wiggins sounds like a fun team to watch 😀
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 5:26pm #933139

gbmantis
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Cavs would be better with Wiggins than with Love IMO. With Wiggins and Bron defending on the wings teams would have a tough time scoring, and Kyrie would be throwing lots of lobs on fast breaks. I think offensively they would be a better unit with Wiggins also, when Lebron is handling the ball the offensive poses a greater threat when there is an elite slasher (wiggins) and shooter (kyrie), as opposed to two guys camping on the 3 point line.
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Posted on: Mon, 07/07/2014 - 5:26pm #933008

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Cavs would be better with Wiggins than with Love IMO. With Wiggins and Bron defending on the wings teams would have a tough time scoring, and Kyrie would be throwing lots of lobs on fast breaks. I think offensively they would be a better unit with Wiggins also, when Lebron is handling the ball the offensive poses a greater threat when there is an elite slasher (wiggins) and shooter (kyrie), as opposed to two guys camping on the 3 point line.
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/09/2014 - 3:47am #933644
  
  drpg913
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  You can’t possibly be serious about them being better with Wiggins instead of Love. Love is already a All-NBA player. The love outlet passes to Lebron will produce atleast 6 points a lone. Not to mention the pick and roll possibilities. I know on the defensive side of the ball it may be better but on the offensive end thereis no comparison.
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/09/2014 - 3:47am #933516
  
  drpg913
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  You can’t possibly be serious about them being better with Wiggins instead of Love. Love is already a All-NBA player. The love outlet passes to Lebron will produce atleast 6 points a lone. Not to mention the pick and roll possibilities. I know on the defensive side of the ball it may be better but on the offensive end thereis no comparison.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/08/2014 - 4:54am #933250

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Wiggins could also help out LeBron a lot too. With Wiggins already being a very good defender, he can take the entire defensive load off Lebron, giving him more energy for offense.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/08/2014 - 4:54am #933118

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Wiggins could also help out LeBron a lot too. With Wiggins already being a very good defender, he can take the entire defensive load off Lebron, giving him more energy for offense.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/08/2014 - 8:10pm #933444

VintageKobe
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Short term, i think it helps him. Long term i think it hurts his potential.
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Posted on: Tue, 07/08/2014 - 8:10pm #933572

VintageKobe
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Short term, i think it helps him. Long term i think it hurts his potential.
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Posted on: Wed, 07/09/2014 - 3:59am #933646

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LeBron’s veteran/championship experience, work ethic and just the fact he’s an amazing teammate would definitely help Wiggins. How could it not?
However, I also think he could stunt Wiggins’ growth as an basketball player eventually. The Cavs would go from a rebuilding team to a team with championship aspirations. Wiggins won’t be given as long of a leash to play through his mistakes or just be giving the opportunity to develop the mentality of a future superstar. He’ll be more of a role player.

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Posted on: Wed, 07/09/2014 - 3:59am #933518

IndianaBasketball
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LeBron’s veteran/championship experience, work ethic and just the fact he’s an amazing teammate would definitely help Wiggins. How could it not?
However, I also think he could stunt Wiggins’ growth as an basketball player eventually. The Cavs would go from a rebuilding team to a team with championship aspirations. Wiggins won’t be given as long of a leash to play through his mistakes or just be giving the opportunity to develop the mentality of a future superstar. He’ll be more of a role player.

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- Posted on: Wed, 07/09/2014 - 1:59pm #933914
  
  drpg913
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  This is the same thing that I was thinking. Skills wouldn’t be developed they would just be masked. This isn’t the NFL older stars don’t really nurture the incoming players on the same team. The coaching staff is supposed to do that. From what I heard the Cavs new coach is a win now type of guy and will have a short leash for Wiggins. But I also don’t believe Minnesota is the place for him to develop either. Flips is an average coach with no history of developing players. Hoping this Love trade is a 3 teamer. send Wiggins to Phoenix or Boston or something. anywhere but Minnesota
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- Posted on: Wed, 07/09/2014 - 1:59pm #933785
  
  drpg913
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  This is the same thing that I was thinking. Skills wouldn’t be developed they would just be masked. This isn’t the NFL older stars don’t really nurture the incoming players on the same team. The coaching staff is supposed to do that. From what I heard the Cavs new coach is a win now type of guy and will have a short leash for Wiggins. But I also don’t believe Minnesota is the place for him to develop either. Flips is an average coach with no history of developing players. Hoping this Love trade is a 3 teamer. send Wiggins to Phoenix or Boston or something. anywhere but Minnesota
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  - Posted on: Wed, 07/09/2014 - 4:38pm #933970
    
    Lafferty Daniel
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    I’m not the biggest fan of Flip, but there’s no denying he contributed greatly to developing a future Hall of Famer in Kevin Garnett.
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  - Posted on: Wed, 07/09/2014 - 4:38pm #933841
    
    Lafferty Daniel
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    I’m not the biggest fan of Flip, but there’s no denying he contributed greatly to developing a future Hall of Famer in Kevin Garnett.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 07/10/2014 - 4:09am #933983
      
      drpg913
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      That’s one guy and how many times did they go to the Western Conference finals? Also The Wolves never develop a second banana next to him.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 07/10/2014 - 4:09am #934111
      
      drpg913
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      That’s one guy and how many times did they go to the Western Conference finals? Also The Wolves never develop a second banana next to him.
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