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lebron

lebron had an up and down game and ended with good stats but... this series shows that this guy should not be compared to michael jordan. Regardless of what his stats say he just fazes in and out of games at random times.


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32,10,11 nuff said

32,10,11 nuff said

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Last three Heat possessions

Last three Heat possessions of regulation: Lebron turns it over, shoots an airball and bricks a three. "nuff said"

Ray Allen is the reason Miami is still alive. He it the game tying three and scored the Heat's last four points of overtime.

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Can't we just all agree to

Can't we just all agree to stop comparing people to Jordan in general. I found Lebron to be frustrating to watch tonight until the 4th but even then he started to deferring to wade once he reentered the game. On paper it looks like he controlled this game but in reality he had three crucial turnovers that almost lost the game.

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if the spurs didn't choke we would be talking about lebrons 2 turnovers and lebrons missed 3s down the stretch. He did have a great 4th quarter until the last 2 minutes... best player in the game today but not on jordans level

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He's one of the most

He's one of the most fascinating players in NBA history. Lets leave it at that until game 7.

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OP is right. But I also blame

OP is right. But I also blame Wade a bit going iso in 4th instead of letting Lebron go. Wade's isos take Lebron out of a number of possessions at a time

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He's not Jordan

And never will be. Stop with the comparisons. Just because a player is the best in the game today, doesn't mean they have to be Jordan. LeBron is the best in the league currently. What will you say if LeBron is out of the league and Paul George some how is the most dominant player in the league. Will we start comparing him to Jordan too? LeBron and Jordan have two different type of games.

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its time to stop yhe

its time to stop yhe comparisons to Jordan until Lebron actually shows consistent willingness to show up in crucial situations. I am a huge Lebron supporter and fan. love his game, and love watching him. But he needs to form his own legacy and can't be compared to Jordan or Kobe. he is not, as of yet, clutch like those guys. point blank. Let's let lebron be lebron and enjoy history in the making. lebron's story isn't finished yet

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Kobe is not clutch. He likes

Kobe is not clutch. He likes jacking up shots in the last seconds, that's all.

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we are talking about the best players ever

why would you even bring up kobe's name?

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because lebron is also

because lebron is also measured against kobe unfairly. lets actually let lebron play as long as kobe first.

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LeBron is LeBron. He and

LeBron is LeBron. He and Jordan are two completely different players and play two different positions. If you want to compare people to Jordan, you compare Kobe, or Dwyane Wade. LeBron is his own person, if anything we should compare him to Magic, not Jordan.

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All I hear is people say

All I hear is people say "Don't compare Lebron and Jordan." I never actually hear people compare them. lol

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Lebron can break his leg

Lebron can break his leg completely off his body and never play again and I might actually be happy. Overrated. Sickening. Fake. Yes he is a very good player but so are tons of other NBA players that don't get credit or the attention. Stat filler, but rarely "takes a game over"

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Some of you guys actually

Some of you guys actually don't remember that Jordan also missed big important shots and had bad games. He had them in the finals and in elimination games. I'm not saying Lebron is better. But just that everyone seems to think that the highlight shots of game winners that we see again and again are the only shots Jordan ever shot. They aren't.

But yes, those Lebron turnovers were terrible. Mainly because he was getting into a position to take his own good shot. There was no need to pass into traffic and congestion.

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Bron plays every game,

Bron plays every game, especially the Finals, under greater expectations than any player ever before. To me he's a trailblazer , being the first real superstar to start his career in today's media crazed world where anyone and everyone can scrutinize and criticize his game. Being the leader of three finals teams, win or lose, before 30 is impressive in itself. Don't take credit away from Pop and the Spurs defense when you talk about Lebron's mistakes either.

People confuse his patience for passiveness as well. Why doesn't he shoot the three when the spurs play off him? 9 times out of 10 he can get a better shot or get to the rim. He's one of the better decision makers to ever play the game.

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You're right!

C'mon guys. Give pop credit, I mean Boris Diaw was playing really good defense out there...

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Lebron is flat out more

Lebron is flat out more effective when Wade is on the bench. Banged up Wade has no 3 point shot and doesn't stretch the D at all. His presence clogs the lane even further when Lebron drives and I think that was why he just kept kicking it out during the first half.

When Miller was stretching the floor, Lebron was making big play in the post after big play in the post, but Wade back in....struggles. This team is good enough to win in a variety of ways, but the D-Wade/Lebron tandom isn't the best for either one of their games to flourish.

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Man, I also truly think

Man, I also truly think Lebron is going to play more minutes at power forward as he ages. I wouldn't rule out him being a full time PF in by 33 or 34. He is so strong on the block and is very effective protecting the rim. Right now he's a perimeter guy, and should be, but I could see him having a 2nd career at PF much like Garnett has had at C.

Magic also played PF during his breif comeback season in the mid-90's, although he was a little overweight, but still, you know where i'm going with this.

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I agree, I never truely

I agree, I never truely thought LeBron & Wade meshed well on offense, defense on the other hand they're a massive threat together.

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Yes LeBron had great stats,

Yes LeBron had great stats, and yes he had that one run of dominance...but other than that 3 he hit at the end of regulation, he was awful down the stretch. Turnovers, air balls, I mean that one play down 3, was that a shot or a pass? It was literally the worst play I have ever seen ANY player make with the game on the line.

He is a headcase, he is still a headcase, and he probably will always be one. Great talent, great stats, and his dominant run got Miami back in the game. But his play down the stretch and in OT was laughable.

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I agree

I agree that LeBron made some terrible plays down the stretch, but you guys are glossing over his incredible fourth quarter. They would have easily lost the game had it not been for him, and not just on offense. He shut Tony Parker DOWN -6-23 shooting. That block on Tim Duncan was incredible. He turned the ball over, but that three with 20 seconds left made up for some of that. LeBron spearheaded that incredible defensive effort. You can't just say "yeah he had a triple double again, he has the highest elimination game scoring average in NBA history...but he still choked in the big moment." Journalists will have you thinking they always make the right play, or know exactly what should be done in every situation. Guess what. People make mistakes. if you play the game/coach the game at 100 mph you will make mistakes. Some people will say Manu shouldn't have taken that freethrow and that it was a coaching mistake. But they would've said the same thing if he had neal take the freethrows. You're discounting the spurs incredible defensive effort. Lebron took like 12 shots in the first half. He wasn't being passive. He missed shots. LeBron ended with 32 points 11 assists and 10 rebounds a block and a couple of steals. Only LeBron could have a game like that and come away with people thinking less of him. In the past LeBron always had to make EVERY BIG PLAY. Thats not true for anyone else. Not for Kobe And Shaq. Not really anyone. Ray Allen is a hall of fame shooter. He did his job. People also forget that LeBron is always having to guard a team's best player. Jordan was an excellent defender, but he didn't actually have to guard the team's best offensive player. That was pippen. When pippen switched on to Magic Johnson in the 91 finals, we didn't heart too much from Mr. Johnson again. MJ has failed in big moments. 95 conference finals. You can say he just came out of retirement, but we all know LeBron wouldn't get that luxury. read this great article by Jason Reid.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/jason-reid-lebron-jamess-tr...

people need to stop tearing down his legacy before his career is over. He's in his prime with a great team. More success is coming.

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This is insane Lebron just

This is insane Lebron just had one of the greatest games of all time in the Finals... Can't think of a better performance. You have a small forward guarding a hall of fame point guard n dropping a trip dub. He rejected another 7 foot plus hall of famer at the rack, shut down one of the premier points in the L, and came thru extremely clutch in crunch time... Hit the 3 towards end of regulation and dropped like 15 pts n 5 dimes in fourth all under extreme pressure (we all know the hate would have been crazy had the Heat lose)..

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I agree with the fact that d

I agree with the fact that d wade doesn't stretch the defense AT ALL.

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This is why everybody is

This is why everybody is saying LeBron had a bad game.

LeBron in the 4th quarter

Before the 3:30 mark:
11 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists, 5-7 FG, 1 block 0 turnovers

After the 3:30 mark and OT:

5 points, 2 rebounds, 2 assists, 2-6 FG, 1 steal, 4 turnovers

He shot badly and became a turnover machine after he exploded. Granted, if it wasn't for his explosion, the Spurs would still be out partying at this moment.

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I try to avoid arguing with

I try to avoid arguing with fans of players, but did you guys even watch the game? He had "one of the greatest games of all time"? Which game, because it certainly wasn't last night. The guy looked like Manu out there in the closing minutes, and was on the verge of tears during those time outs. If they don't win, that goes down as one of the worst stretches of basketball by a star player in NBA history. How does that equivocate to having one of the greatest games ever? Two minutes of basketball in the fourth quarter doesn't make something consecrated, and this is the exact reason why some people hate Lebron. Be honest, he didn't play that great last night except on defense

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He dominated in the 4th

He dominated in the 4th quarter of that game. He made a few mistakes at the end of the game too. Larry and Michael and Magic made mistakes in games too. Lebron carried the Heat for almost the entire 4th quarter, without him they were done. Period. Did you even watch the whole quarter?

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While I am rooting for the

While I am rooting for the Spurs, I personally am happy that it didn't end like that for LeBron. I was feeling so sorry for him when he was choking. Watching him melt down in the clutch was just sad to see.

Had they lost, the criticism he would've gotten would've been unreal. I was actually happy to see him hit that three (after he missed the first one badly).

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