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- Posted on: Sun, 07/30/2017 - 7:07pm #67087
Miko4rm206ParticipantAll 3 of these Young SG Ended up on their Current teams as Part of a Trade for a Allstar/Superstar Player.
Victor Olidipo-PG13 trade
Zach Lavine-Jimmy Buckets trade
Buddy Heild- D Cuzzo trade ( Last Year)
All of Which who Have yet to Play a Full Season but were The Main Entree if you will for the Superstar they were dealt for. They all Have plenty of Potential and Project to play Major parts in their Teams Offense Respectively. Who will have the Greatest impact on their team?
I Liked Heild Post Kings trade. Really turned it On. Olidipo Should be Really, Really good especially since he will get a chance to make Plays as well but I’m going with ZACH Lavine.
I know he’s coming off a Major injury but Lavines Athleticism and Streaky but yet Improving 3 in a bulls Jersey what’s not to like? Before his injury he was hitting 3s off of Screens 3 ft away from the 3 or line like lillard or Steph. He’s improves his 3 yrs since being in the league and i don’t see Why he shouldn’t regain his form and Improve. Maybe earn a Spot on the all-star team in a Yr or 2? 20pt + Scorer for the Bulls this Year. I’m calling it
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/30/2017 - 8:14pm #1104675
SlickBouncePassParticipantI was a big fan of his at UCLA, in fact I thoguht Steve Alford was a terrible coach because he played his son more than he played Lavine.
But as exciting as Lavine is (great dunker, shotmaking potential), he has some major negatives. He isn’t a good defender. I see why Thibs was quick to trade him away. He moves very poorly laterally on defense.
Also another major weakness is his IQ. In solely a one trick pony role (fast break and 3 pointers), he isn’t bad, so he’s a 3&D guy without the defense. Basically he’s a shooter. Maybe Minnesota knew they replaced him with Crawford and were okay with letting him go, anyway. Lavine cannot be relied upon to run a team or an offense. I think he will always make poor decisions offensively.
I don’t get impressed by a player’s ability to dunk. Yes, it is exciting to watch in a game, but how much does a crazy dunk help a team win? Its 2 points, many times it can be energizing for a team building up momentum, but I’d rather take a player that cannot dunk, can still shoot like he can, but also is a very smart shotmaker and passer.
0- Posted on: Mon, 07/31/2017 - 2:22am #1104680
holefillers1ParticipantI agree with you Slick. Lavine has no half court offense besides 3pt and slash ability. If you are strictly an offensive player you better live at the line or be able to facilitate.
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- Posted on: Sun, 07/30/2017 - 9:48pm #1104676
The GoatParticipantIMHO Oladipo is the best of the three but they are simply starters at best, no more. Lavine is the worst defender in the league.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/31/2017 - 12:51am #1104677
alexsonic60ParticipantI think we have to made a case for Kris Dunn in this conversation. Kid has all the tools to succeed, the point for him is to be good in his new environement as he was in Providence.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/31/2017 - 3:19am #1104682
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantI’ve always been very intrigued by oladipo. I thought he would’ve really broke out by now but it just hasn’t happened yet. Playing alongside Westbrook in OKC last year was a poor fit. He should get plenty of opportunity to be a playmaker this season and it will be interesting to see how he does. I see no reason he can’t put up 20-5-5 a night with a couple steals thrown in for a rebuilding team.
Out of the three, I feel oladipo definitely has the highest upside as an all-around player. Lavine is the better pure scorer. If given a lot of mins and shot attempts he could probably put up some pretty impressive numbers but he will hurt you in other ways. I think he may ultimately project as an instant offense guy off the bench on a contending team (a la Jamal Crawford). Hield should have a nice career and is the best pure shooter of the three but I think he projects as more of a specialist.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/31/2017 - 3:30am #1104683
MatosParticipantDunn’s defense is what will allow LaVine to be a bigger threat than some of you think. LaVine doesn’t play defense well, we get it. Aside from the fact that he’s still young and can develop that portion of his game and still become a decent defender, he will be playing with Dunn, whom I believe will be one of the top defenders at his position in the next few years.
Couple that with LaVine learning from D-Wade (as long as Wade is there) and he will blossom.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/31/2017 - 9:40am #1104705
whiteflashParticipantLavine always reminded me of Jamal Crawford with James White’s left leg. I see a smaller, right-handed Michael Redd in Buddy Heild, which theoretically should thrive in today’s game. Oladipo has a little Latrell Sprewell in him, and I think the best of the three and probably the only of ’em that should be a full-time starter.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/31/2017 - 10:13am #1104706
HitsterParticipantOladipo IMO is the best all round player of the three, Hield is more of a shooter and LaVine does have that bit of star quality. But I’d think a coach would probably prefer Victor on his team out of the three.
They are all at different stages of their career – Victor is onto his 2nd contract now whilst Buddy has only played one season and Zach is 3 years younger than Victor.
I think all 3 are in good situations actually – Nate MacMillan will like Victor’s game and he’ll be a key player with the Pacers going forward. Zach can become the main man at Chicago and having D-Wade there next season will be a huge help to him. Buddy will see good minutes in a young Sac-Town team and can form a long term back court with Fox but having Hill and Vince Carter there will benefit him too.
Buddy could also be used as a great 6th man if Sac-Town want Hill and Fox as starters, his shooting high energy game would be ideal in short bursts against 2nd units.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/31/2017 - 10:37am #1104708
WinterSoldierParticipantLavine 22, Offensive +- 2.2 Defensive +- -2.4
Heild 24, Offensive +- 0.7 Defensive +- -2.2
Oladipo 25, Offensive +- -0.4 Defensive +- -0.9
None of them project to being star players but I would go with Lavine since he is the youngest and has the highest upside.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/31/2017 - 11:38am #1104711
OhCanada-ParticipantOladipo is a player to watch this year. His progression sort of haulted in Orlando a bit but after spending a year in OKC playing second fiddle watching Russell Westbrook a guy he can realistically pattern parts of his game from you would hope he learned something and can apply it. He could be a breakout player.
Lavines gonna go off!
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/31/2017 - 12:36pm #1104713
TravelinTravParticipantI think Lavine will have the best career. It’s a slightly bias opinion because I’ve watched about 90% of his games. He was just as good offensively as KAT or Wiggins, he was averaging 21 per until he hurt his hip then later his ACL. With ample minutes available in Chi town he should average around 23-24 game.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/31/2017 - 1:33pm #1104714
BallerScriptParticipantIf LaVine could contribute defensively he would defintitely be the best here but because of his weakness here Oladipo is a much more consitent impact player.
- Dipo
- LaVine
- Buddy Buckets
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/31/2017 - 6:01pm #1104727
wonzi_bellsParticipantIt’s gotta be LaVine… He’s the youngest and has proven the most with his scoring acumen out of the three. I honestly look at all three as being better coming off the bench.
Hield is like Allen Crabbe, a good scorer with good three point shooting, not out of this world like some would have you believing coming out of the draft but only at best an average defensive player, which keeps him from being a good starting shooting guard. Oladipo honestly isn’t good offensively or defensively as a starting two guard. People thought he’d be some lockdown defensive player and he’s not even that and his lack of shooting hurts. In a playoff scenerio, you’ll give him open shots and will be fine with it like what happened in the OKC-HOU series. LaVine has the same problems as Hield and Crabbe but with his defense even being worse but his at least has the physical tools with his size and athleticism that he can switch and hide but the upside is that if you place him in a sixth man role, he automatically becomes one of the best bench scorers in the league. So that places him No. 1 to me out of these three.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/31/2017 - 8:16pm #1104735
IndianaBasketballParticipantI’m a little worried about Lavine since he tore the ACL in his dominant jumping leg. I think he’ll come back strong… I just hope they don’t rush it. IF he returns in 10 months, that’ll put him back around Dec.
I don’t expect a ton out of him this season. An ACL tear is more of a mental injury than anything else. It takes most athletes two years for a full recovery. He’ll have to shake off the rust and get over that mental hurdle.
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