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  • #27019
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    The8thDeadlySin
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    These are 2 guys that I am really high on.. I have been high on Honeycutt since early this year and lately, Jeremy Lamb, UConn, has really made the difference in that team..

    They are both like 6’7, 6’8 and play a G/F role for thier team…

    My question to you is:
    Who is better right now??

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  • #510965
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    JNixon
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    EASILY Tyler Honeycutt. Honeycutt doesn’t have Lamb’s length, but he’s better at every other aspect of basketball

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  • #511006
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    ilike.panochas
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    Isn’t Honeycutt taller/longer than Lamb? Honeycutt is about 6’7-6’8 and Lamb is 6’5-6’6 and is strictly a SG.

    But I like Lamb in the longterm. I see Honeycutt struggling to score in the NBA because of his lack of jumpshot and creating his own shot. Lamb has the skill set of a pure scorer, he has the ball handling, shooting stroke and instinct. But Honeycutt is a better defender.

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  • #511014
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    The lake show2

    Yeah Tyler is better taller and longer.. I was about to say no then i realized i was thinking of Roscoe Smith

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  • #511016
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    BKKnicksfan
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    I’m so confused.

     

    Why does EVERYONE say Honeycutt is a SG? When I see him play, he’s clearly a SF to me

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  • #511035
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    JNixon
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    You can be shorter than someone and not have more length. Lamb seems to be longer despite being shorter. But Lamb isn’t better RIGHT NOW than Honeycutt, it’s not all that close either honestly.

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  • #511041
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    ilike.panochas
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    Yes ofcourse Honeycutt is better right now, but he’s also 1 class older. Other than his length, defensive abilities, Honeycutt hasn’t impressed me enough to be taken in the lottery. I almost see Matt Barnes in him, I just don’t like him as a scorer because he has alot of work to do on that area, but his defense is NBA quality. Maybe a Trevor Ariza/Matt Barnes type player in the pro. This site has him compared to Josh Childress, I think Childress had a much better outside game.

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  • #511043
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    JNixon
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    The question clearly was who’s better right now. That’s what I was answering.

    Even in the future, I think Honeycutt will be better than Lamb.

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  • #511046
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    ilike.panochas
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    Yes I understood the question clearly. What I was referring to is that Honeycutt’s upside is a bit overrated because I don’t think he can over come his short comings on the offensive end. Which is why I like Lamb in the long term because his ability to create shots is pretty special, he reminds me of a little bit of Larry Hughes.

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  • #511055
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    JNixon
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    Doron Lamb is nowhere near as good a shot creator as Larry Hughes. I don’t know where this assumption that Lamb is such a good shot creator came from. He’s been compared to Chris Douglas-Roberts and Larry Hughes. He’s not the scorer either one of them is. Both of those guys could create off the dribble and score in bunches. Lamb makes alot of his plays off of broken plays, and the occasional straight-line drive or spot up jumper. He’s more of a defender than anything, and he’s even a bit raw on that end too. He’d have to adjust much more so to the NBA game than Honeycutt would. And even when he adjust he’d be a 5th option player at best.

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  • #511061
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    Dale Worthington
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    Lamb: 6’5 height but 7’4 wingspan

    I’ll take Honeycutt by a smidgen.

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  • #511065
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    JNixon
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    No way. 7’4 wingspan? Really?

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  • #511091
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    Beenie
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    Lamb! I  see a rip Hamilton in the making with ray Allen’s professionalism.someone who will take care of business, eat right, take care of his body and spend long years in the league. I’m not saying rip doesn’t do all this though because he achieved too but Lamb just seems to have that Ray allen Personality.

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  • #511098
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    The lake show2

    Wait are we talking about Doron Lamb from UK? or Jeremy Lamb from Uconn?

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  • #511101
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Honeycutt is easily better than J Lamb…Lamb has only showed up in the past few weeks, Tyler Honeycutt can play 2 or 3 in the L and defend 1 through 4 in the first few years in the NBA…I see a Tayshuan Prince clone…I don’t see Larry Hughes at all when I look at Jeremy Lamb…

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  • #511109
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    The lake show2

    So are you saying Nixon is drunk, because he clearly said Doron Lamb??

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  • #511111
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    JNixon
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    I meant to put Jeremy. My bad folks.

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  • #511116
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    Dale Worthington
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    The8thDeadlySin
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    See.. Before this post, I didnt do my research… I just thought that Lamb looked about 6’6 or 6’7… He is a very very long player and playing right beside the 6′ Kemba Walker makes him look even taller..

    My Bad..

    Also, with all the talk about Honeycutt being better right now, it isnt a huge gap if any.. I didnt as "Who has had the better year?" because that would clearly be Honeycutt.. I didnt ask who has had the better numbers over the season, didnt ask who looked better in a polo, or who looks better in a pie eating contest.. I asked who is playing better "now." Lamb has been huge in the Big East Tourney and Honeycutt has been getting in done and for stretches, carrying his team..

    So now that I have further explained my question…

    Who is better right now, not as a pro, not as a SG/SF/WTFEVER, right now, as a player for their currnet college team?

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  • #511128
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    JNixon
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    Honeycutt. It’s not that close, I’m telling you. If Honeycutt and Lamb switched places, UConn would be a better team and UCLA wouldn’t.

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  • #511129
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    Hale
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    I think comparing there pro prospects is way more debatable. It’s not even close that Honeycut has been better this year.

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  • #511130
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    The8thDeadlySin
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    So you still didnt read… Not this year.. Right now.. Lamb has really stepped up and is playing very well…

    Yes, if Honeycutt had been at UConn, they would be much better but I am talking about at this moment..

     

    IF they traded places today, would there be a huge impact on the next 2 or 3 games???

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  • #511132
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    BKKnicksfan
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    Yea, I agree. If you swapped Honeycutt and Lamb, I think a Walker-Honeycutt-Oriakhi combo would be a better team in the Big East.

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  • #511133
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    Hale
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    Honeycut is better right now. It’s not very close.

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  • #511135
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    ilike.panochas
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    So basically your asking who’s more valuable to their team? Well if that’s the case them it’s clearly Honeycutt.

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  • #514192
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    Onions
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     Lamb’s future is a lot brighter. He’s already showing signs of being a great defensive player, good basketball IQ, and a very good stroke.

    I see him as a legit 3rd option on a championship team and the preimer shutdown defender.

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  • #514193
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    BKKnicksfan
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    Lamb’s future is a lot brighter. He’s already showing signs of being a great defensive player, good basketball IQ, and a very good stroke. I see him as a legit 3rd option on a championship team and the preimer shutdown defender.

     

    After a couple good games? SLOW DOWN PARTNER.

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  • #514194
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     Give him a few years to bulk up, he’s a very disruptive defensive player already as is. And he’s been in double figures since the start of the Big East tournament. 

    If UNC manages to beat UK, it will be very interesting to watch him guard Barnes.

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  • #514196
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    BKKnicksfan
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    Like I said before, let’s give him a chance do develop before giving him titles. Saying he could be a #3 on a title team, as well as a shutdown defender in the NBA right now is a little much. I want him to develop into a great college player and a monster defender in NCAA basketball first.

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  • #514198
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    llperez

    honeycutt wins the points, rebounds, assists, blocks, steals, fg% and knocked down more threes. He also has a 3 inch height advantage. Honeycutt is severly slept on and should go top 10 this draft if he enters.

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  • #514200
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    BKKnicksfan
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    I agree about Honeycutt, reminds me the year Austin Daye came out, I always thought top 10, many thought late 1st and he ended up in the middle. I could see a Golden State or Utah give him looks.

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  • #514201
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    llperez

    guys under ben howland dont get to shine as much as other colleges. Aaron afflalo, jordan farmar, luc richard mbah a moute, kevin love, jrue holiday, russel westbrook, darren collison have all outplayed their draft position and what was expected of them. The ucla system is a slow it down half court use 35 seconds type system. But in the nba guys get a longer leash to showcase their skills. Expect honeycutt to be next in line of ucla guys to surprise.

     

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  • #514329
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    The8thDeadlySin
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    I am high on both and said earlier that I thought that Honeycutt could be a 20 point per game scorer.. I do think that Lamb is going to be fantastic too.. IMO, Kemba couldnt have carried this team without Lamb…

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  • #514330
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    The lake show2

    yeah step on the breaks just a tad. He’s just starting to make a name for himself so let him continue to develop before saying he could be a 3rd option on a Championship team( unless you meant college  wayyyyyyy to soon to know for the NBA)

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  • #518226
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    The8thDeadlySin
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    I just want you all to look at some of your comments..

    It is clear that some of you were just talking.. You hadnt watched either player more than once and were going by box scores…

    Now, all of a sudden, Lamb is a lottery pick and some crap and being compared to a short Durant?  Yall are disapointing..

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  • #691586
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    iguapops420
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     I came across this post and found some interesting things. While I’m STILL high on Honeycutt and have still yet to buy into this crazy Jeremy Lamb hype, I found it funny how everyone at the time was so very high on Tyler Honeycutt. I still have no idea how he fell out of the 1st round. @Dale Worthington, that big 7’4 wingspan didn’t quite add up at the combine huh? That lockdown defender I think everyone expected out of Lamb may have been hindered by him become an offensive focal point as he seems to have let his defense take a slight backseat. This may change though once he enters the L officially. 

    @JNixon, now that a season has past(given a shortened season that Tyler didn’t get minutes in), do you still think Tyler has higher upside and is the better player? I always viewed him as a mix between Andre Iguodala and Josh Childress. His help D and passing ability are simply something you don’t just learn. They’re more instinctive than the ability to shoot an outside jumper. Case in point Josh Childress. He may have had a better outside game, but it took him 4 years of college to get there.I think if Tyler had stayed he could have developed into a player every bit as good as Josh and ended up a top 20 pick(assuming Howland’s offense wouldn’t have hindered him too much).

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