[valentine]

big laker fan here but i do like what i saw from the clippers..they were a lil sloppy but they played hard..kaman looks pretty good and im really liking eric gordan. even though kobe scored alot (no one can stop him) gordan played pretty good defense….

deandre jordan was no factor what so ever like i figured he wouldnt be..like i told clippers and others “dont overhype what people do in the preseason because the regular season is awhole different animal”

as i write this bynum has 26 and 13. 1blk….hmmmm he looks like the beast i predicted and much better then jordan…actually mbenga looked better then jordan

bdiddy looked good body wise just not game wise

khole kardashian must be making lamar happy cuz he played like he was pretty happy now imagin if he would have married kim

craig smith looked good but thats no suprise because hes a pretty good player…funny thing though i when they flashed his name on tv it said 6’7 215….anyone who has watched him play knows hes no where near 215..try 240 at least

kobe looked like a mvp and ron looked good..played within the offense and tough hard nose d…now imagin when 2nd team all nba pf paul gasol comes back

[butidonthavemoney]

I noticed the 215 lbs thing too. Craig Smith is awesome. My second favorite Clipper (behind Griffin).

[quincey hodges]

lol..yeah i say that and me and my boy was like “who they talking about?..kenny smith?

[festar35Participant]

Eric Gordon was good. I know he only in second year but 21 points from 14 attempts imagine what he could do with 20 attempts per game.

[quincey hodges]

yeah he looked very good..and thats against kobe and artest..that kid i soooo damn quick..and aggressive

[Mr. BasketballParticipant]

Q hodges, u starting to believe in gordon>mayo?

[Mr. BasketballParticipant]

21 more free throws for lakers than clips. 12 for kobe, 16 for clips. i think as the season moves along they will be less sloppy. also, i think that had they been able to get to the line more, they would have won. it was all about the clippers not getting the easy baskets and the lakers continually getting them along with 37 free throws. when griffin comes back the easy baskets should increase as well as the focus. also, baron should heal from his foot injury to fix his explosion.

[quincey hodges]

not yet…i gotta see what mayo does …..as the season moves along both will be less sloppy…lakers got to the line more cuz they have more agressive players..other then gordan and smith no one else was real aggressive u know

u starting to believe bynum>jordan yet

[Ryan.Cook2Participant]

im not saying he is as good as bynum, im just saying if they gave him minutes he would put up numbers. he had a couple of 20 rebound games when he was given minutes last year, and in todays game he had 5 boards in 11 minutes.

[Mr. BasketballParticipant]

exactly, jordan got very limited minutes. imo, he badly needs a good mentor to teach him post moves, like abdul jabbar did for bynum. it wasn’t about being aggressive or not, it was about baron playing cautious due to injury and the lakers getting to the bonus very early due to unnecessary fouls committed by the clips.

[quincey hodges]

if you give anyone minutes they would put up better numbers..the thing is you arent gonna give someone minutes who hurt youre team when they are in or who isnt better then the players ahead of them..thats why you suppossed to make the lil min you get count and earn more minutes,,..you dont just give minutes u earn them

[quincey hodges]

thatsjust a game the clippers werent gonna…2 teams on 2 different levels..against another team they might have had a chance..not againt the spurs though. luckly for the clippers the lakers bench sucked and let them back in the game

[j1232eParticipant]

gordon seems to light too short to gaurd the 2 gaurds. Baron Davis was forced to gaurd the other 2 gaurd kobe, kobe posted baron up most of the game. Kobe missed several but this could be a problem with clipps and the gaurd situation!

[Mr. BasketballParticipant]

the lakers bench sucked because its not very good. farmar, brown, walton, vujajic, powell, mbenga. terrible bench. sure u can add in odom when gasol comes back but its just terrible. it was the clippers having good bench that made them come back in the 2nd not just the lakers having a crappy bench. also, DJ was in there to board and he did (5 in 11 minutes including some offensive rebs). he’ll be fine.

[lalailaParticipant]

wow! Andrew is stud, absolutely stud!(so is Greg btw, I LOVE THEM) 26pts so good offence, post game, athleticism, 300pounder in fast break?! he will be so so dominant one day! only thing he could learn from Oden is how to use his huge body , he is soft when his teammate shoots he stands near free-throw line, he is so tall and long that he is still able to be double-double guy, but today if he were more agressive he would grabbed about 20rebounds

and Eric Gordon, this is franchise guard, believe me! so tough , so FAST(don’t forget he was faster in combine even than Rose and WEstbrook) and he is deadly shooter…
yes there is O.J. with 18.5 and Rose with 16.8 ppg in thier rookie years but i think Beasley and Gordon is best scorers out of this class..talking about Eric 11fga and 16ppg last year, today 14fga 21ppg, he is amazingly effiecient scorer.love it

Nice opener, can’t wait another night!

[quincey hodges]

clippers bench is ok..but lakers bench is the reason clippers came back..phil thought they could sustain the lead but they couldnt..when gasol comes back it will be much better though so im not too worried..if the game was a palyoff game phil would have kept the tarters in more and it would have been very ugly..dj wont be a factor this year so fans need to focus on kaman and camby…ive always liked kaman when hes not hurt or in shape hes pretty good…as far is eric gordan i dont think he will have a big problem with mot 2 guards…of course he did with kobebecause kobe is unguardable..but gordan has long arms and works hard on d…dont forget d wade i only 6;4 and if im not mistaken he has shorter arms then eric

[quincey hodges]

i agree with everything you jut said…i cant wait to see how beasley comes out..probably wont score as much as eric because he has to contend with d wade but hes so gifted that he just might still get alot of buckets

[quincey hodges]

and i keep seeing people put jordans 5 brds in 11 min but not adding the 0-2 or 2 fouls and 2 turnovers and a couple offense of boards he gave up

[j1232eParticipant]

low post moves were looking good, i think kaman had 16 pts. through 3 quarters. then wife came home and i lost track of players! kaman looked good though. If Bynum plays tough all year he will emerge as an elite force at center.

[quincey hodges]

maybe i should mention mbenga….2pts 3 reb in 10 min…lol..naw im not gonna reach to try to make him look better then he is right now

[j1232eParticipant]

is no more than a big man roster filler. once gasol return dj will only play in foul trouble times or late blowouts!

[quincey hodges]

i know i was just making fun of clippers saying jordan 5 reb in 11 min..so i added another insignificant stat by putting up mbenga stats to make it seem like he really did something too…and when blake comes back jordan can say good bye to those minutes also

[j1232eParticipant]

should have stayed at the a&m at least 2 more seasons, he might take allot longer to put up numbers than people think!

[youngmagParticipant]

Right now idk how Blake is going to slide into the starting line up because Clippers looked real solid tonight…its just Kobe was a mad man looked real hungry.

[Chicago1980Participant]

The clippers looked good until they started turning over the ball their bench is pretty solid and is it just me or does thorton look like he regressed he isnt as aggressive as he was a couple yeas ago he looks old i know hes only like 26 but he doesnt look comfortable out there. I liked the was they played tonight especially since they won me some money by keeping the game close they only lost by 7. good job clips.

[llperez]

man, i can’t believe I fell asleep for the whole first half. I just watched the second half when the clipps made their run outscoring the lakers by like 9 in the third quarter. People are putting the blame all on the bench for that, but truth is the starters were rusty in the third. Kobe was missing a lot of close shots around the rim and Ron wasn’t doing too much. But the Lakers also looked like a team that was up double digits the whole first half and might have got a little lazy against a inferior team, so i’m not worried about it only being 7 points.

Bynum was beasting it. And I like how cliperrs asks Quincey who he would take between between Gordon and Mayo, and quincey gives an honest answer. But when quincey asks him about BYnum vs Jordan, Clippers still defends Deandre. 26 and 13 for Bynum to 0 and 5 for Deandre. If you still think you would keep DeAndre, then i don’t what to tell you.

[marcusfizer21Participant]

Gotta give credit to Clippers for giving the Lakers a run for their money… Chris Kaman was a stud and it showed in this game… But still, everyone knows in the arena that the Lakers are going to win no matter how big the margin is… Kobe is Kobe… Andrew is getting better and Lamar is doing his thing… This is going to be a test on every NBA team on how are they gonna beat a Laker team that’s set to have the best record for 2009-2010 Season…

[The Big O]

craig smith is 270

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Are y’all serious? It’s ONE game. DeAndre Jordan didn’t have a good game, while the Lakers made getting Bynum the ball an emphasis from the get go. I expected him to have a good game considering Pau was out. Y’all have to remember… This is Jordan’s second year in the league and he’s playing behind two pretty damn good centers. It’s going to take him time. This was the first game of the season versus the champs.

EJ is a stud period. He played Kobe well. Kobe is just Kobe. If not for foul trouble and not getting respect from the refs, EJ probably would’ve had 30 points. He’s efficient too. That’s why EJ is better than Mayo in my opinion. It’s only one game, but EJ’s mentality is to attack the basket. He can finish through players bigger than him because of his strength, quickness, explosion, athleticisim and length. You can’t say the same for Mayo. Mayo has a jumpshooter’s mentality at 21 years old and doesn’t get to the free-throw line. He also doesn’t finish well through traffic or at the rim. Everybody saying that Mayo is A MUCH better defender than Gordon needs to stop. If he’s better, it’s not by that much and I’ve been saying that for months.

This is ONE game though.

[The Big O]

I study basketball and statistics and FUNDAMENTALs

ALL u have to do is look at shot selection which is determined by the ability to get to the hole

Both players are aggressive but it manifests in different ways>

EG is shaped like a cannonball and gets to the line on offense
OJ Mayo is a pull up jump shooter and needs to shoot a high volume to leave his mark on the game, both play below the rim but Gordon is more explosive and so he gets to the line more

Eric Gordon is way more efficient than OJ Mayo
that Eric Gordon was a steal, OJ mayo is a MUCH shorter Kobe IMPO

Its NOT only one game, I’ve looked at the numbers and then look at their style of play over the last year and over the summer/preseason

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

I’ve been knowing EJ since he was in 5th grade. He sleeps in the gym lol. His work ethic is off the charts and it always has been.

One thing I’ve consistently said about EJ, is he plays the game the right way. People on here tried to say he was just another player on a bad team that took a lot of shots. That’s not true at all. He plays the game the right way. He makes the right pass, doesn’t over dribble and is unselfish. He’s a very good shooter, but he doesn’t over-rely on it.

He’s going to show us A LOT more this season. His confidence is through the roof right now. You can see it in his body language.

[The Big O]

By plays the game the right way u mean high percentage shots
“old school”/Fundamental basketball right lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDCBc95jZSM
^The Big O hates low % volume shooters clip^

[llperez]

I’ll say this about the EG vs Mayo comparison, I had been saying Mayo for sure all summer. But now it is looking like a toss up. Gordon reminds me of Mitch Richmond. Gordon is quicker , but Mitch had a little better mid range and post up game. Gordon looks like the real deal. I’m still gonna give a very small edge at this point to Mayo though. His ball handling and ability to create for others makes him more of a focal piece while Gordon is more of a finisher who get’s his own numbers. But I could see myself changing my mind very soon on this. Let’s give it a few weeks still.

As for DJordan, I never said he was not gonna be good or didn’t have potential. I have given him plenty of credit every single time I talk about him. I just have to keep it real and when people say they would take him over Bynum (as if Bynum has peeked already himself) I have to think that is some serious bias right there.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Well said. I can tell you this though. Once the Clippers end their experience with Baron Davis, you’ll see EJ do A LOT more.

Anybody who’d take Jordan over Bynum right now or even say they’d take him over Bynum in the future like it’s a no brainer is definitely being biased. It took Bynum longer than two seasons to break out. It usually takes bigs a little longer. I’m giving Jordan time.

[The Big O]

Just noticed
is that Air Gordon over Oden in your pic? Gordon is a problem

[TheAlchemist]

tezo is always name dropping

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Lol only players from Indianapolis. I know a lot of them through high school ball and AAU, so I’m just proud of them… Especially EJ. That’s my guy. Good guy and good player. I’m super proud of him and am definitely biased lol.

[The Big O]

ur saying u played AAU with them in Indiana? I keep wondering how do u know all these guys?

[Champzilla21Participant]

Id take gordon over mayo because he has deep range from anywhere on the court, is able to get into the paint constantly and can finish with the best of them, is super quick on the fast break with or without the ball, he does have nice passes when he drives and kicks out i dont know why people say he cant create, and people say his handle is sloppy but it didnt look sloppy when he burned it down the court left handed and did a lay up on odom. He also showed some flashes of good defense yesterday when guarding kobe or fisher, i know kobe still went off but when given the chance he never backed off

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

I just happened to come up during a good time in Indianapolis. I played high school ball/aau ball and just ball over the summer with a lot of those guys. Guys both older and younger than me.

[quincey hodges]

yeah its jordans 2nd year but its also some other guy second year who are playing better..it lopez second year as well as hibbert and kevin love and many other sophmore..yeah its one game but that excuse only works if he played alot..he obviously didnt play alot for a reason..”hes just not ready”..i was listening to jim rome and cowheard and they repeated what they said awhile ago…they loved bynums footwork even when he was drafted and knew one day hed be good…on the other had rome said jordan was athletic but he never seen any foot works or skills to indicate he i gonna be real special..yeah jordan is playing behind some good big men but blake is a rookie and hurt and i bet he plays more minutes and produces more then jordan when he comes back…and bynum got the ball because he posts hard and runs the floor..he makes him self a presence and get him self open..jordan doesnt do that..he doesnt post so hard that you feel you must pass him the ball and he doesnt have any post moves..and ej played good but lets please stop with excuses..not jut for him but for other players “if the refss would have, or if thi would of happen or that”..the fact is IT DIDNT so lets live in the reality and top with the if’s

[The Big O]

IF oj mayo learns to dunk on players/get to the foul line he will finally become just as good as Eric Gordon.

“lets please stop with excuses..not jut for him but for other players “if the refss would have, or if thi would of happen or that”..the fact is IT DIDNT so lets live in the reality and top with the if’s”

mayo was a volume shooter for 82 games and USA mini-camp and pre-season etc UR THE ONE making excuses

face it hodges ur a HYPOCRITE rofl

[quincey hodges]

huh..i havent said a word about mayo so get off my sac..only thing i mention about mayo was imma have to wait till he plays this season ..get ur facts straight

[quincey hodges]

we used to play against blommington red tezo…they were tough..one year they were the only team to beat us that summer(d.c assult)..luke recker gave us the business though

[The Big O]

no ones on ur sac homo

[quincey hodges]

actually another player i forgot to mention was telfair..he played pretty well also…the clippers should be fighting for a playoff spot by the end of the year. till got my lake show taking it all..would like to see themvs clippers first round..home game every game for lakers

[FT33Participant]

I don’t understand why quincey is hating on DJ. I didn’t expect him to do anything this game, maybe not this season, but comparing him to mbenga?! Thats messed up(kinda funny, but still…)! He needs help on ALL aspects of his game, and he could be good, but you make it as though he is the worst thing/player to ever happen/play to the Clips. They could always send him to the D-League anytime, whenever Griffin gets back. So, my question is, do you hate him or something, because all I’m getting is a lot of hate from you?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Who made excuses for EJ? Though they lost, I was satisfied with his performance, both offensively and defensively, so there’s no need for me to make an excuse for him. I was just saying that he could’ve scored 30 if not for getting into foul trouble and not getting to the free-throw line enough. My point was that he’s very efficient.

As far as Jordan… I’ve never said that he was ready. What I’ve said is that he has a lot of max potential and that he can meet it if he continues to work hard and gets playing time. Of course he’s not ready yet lol. With the depth of the Clippers front court, he’ll be lucky to get 15 minutes per game. Lopez is extremely offensively skilled (more than most NBA centers) and played two seasons at Standford. Hibbert played four years at Georgetown. Love is the only player you mentioned that’s actually in Jordan’s high school graduating class and he’s one of those rare young players who are ready to contribute right away. Similar to DeJaun Blair, Love has a special skill (rebounding) that’s going to get him minutes right away.

It’s only one game, so no need to be so critical. How many bad games did Bynum have his first two or three seasons in the league? I mean, and he had a hall of famer working with him. Bynum didn’t always run the floor and post hard early in his career. He learned that through coaching, learning and experience. Each player is different, but it takes these young bigs time to develop. Jordan still has a ways to go. He’s going to have highs and lows this season.

[quincey hodges]

wasnt saying hes as bad a mbenga was just making a point about stats ..also i dont hate him i jut cant stand when people before the season(manly clippers) said he is just as good or better then bynum right now…some of ya’ll tarted looking more into then what i was saying and if you ready earlier you would see that. the ej thing was more of the saying if ej would have shot more he would have scored more which i didnt understand because thats usually what happens when you shoot more….also people need to realize that just beacause someone is athletic and big doesnt mean they have awhole lot of potenial to get much butter,,like i said before i see jordan a dan gadzurice,,neither can shoot both can jump both have no real post skills besides dunking..could i be wrong..of coure but i could also be right..time will tell but as of now thats who he is..bynum wasnt that great either when he first came in but coachs still raved about how good his foot work was and his skills set..when people talk about jordan the common theme is his athletic ability not his foot or skill set..and how bad his work ethic is. things like that rarely change if it been talked about from hs to college to there first year int he nba

[marcusfizer21Participant]

I’m giving DeAndre Jordan time… lots of it… He’s playing behind two primed Centers and two of the most solid ones out there in the West… But in order for him to bloom, he needs to get minutes though but he has to show that he deserve those minutes…

BIAS TIME: My Bulls could certainly use DeAndre at Starting C… LOL… I mean, yeah… He can contribute and would be a good player and a good fit for Derrick Rose’s dribble penetration play… I think if you pair DeAndre with a Derrick Rose, it can be a young and dangerous tandem… You could say Nash to Amar’e 2.0. So Bulls, take my advice…LOL… But seriously, I would give up everything I have just to see the Bulls get a hold of DeAndre…^^

[quincey hodges]

yeah he needs more years..but in order for him to get more minutes he has to earn them and he obviouly hasnt earn them by not playing much..he doent not play because there are other big men its because he doent help them more then he hurt them in the game and he doesnt earn it in practice..people keep saying he needs more time but they arent taking in account that hes obviously not doing enough to earn that time and they over look the things that he does to hurt the teams which could possibly be blown assisignments or not knowing the plays or producing more then the players ahead of him..in chicago he would have that problem evenmore because they actually have more big men who are better then the clippers have

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

LOL. Are you smoking this early in the morning? Two things you just said just blew me away. The first was that Jordan doesn’t earn it in practice. He’s been dominate in practices. His problem is carrying it over into games with limited playing time. He’s not playing because he IS playing behind two primed centers and because of that he doesn’t have a lot of room for error. He does miss a few assignments here and there, but he’s not being allowed to play through his mistakes. Noah and Thomas are allowed to play through their mistakes because it’s not like the Bulls have any really good veteran bigs.

The second thing you said was that the Bulls’ bigs were better than the Clippers’. What?!?! You think Noah, Thomas, Miller and Gibson are better than Kaman, Camby, Griffin, Smith and Jordan? It’s your opinion, but I’d sell that one for a penny.

[quincey hodges]

actually my brother is cool with a couple of the clippers(works out wit them during the summer as well as other euro players because he played for 10 years) thats how i know that he hasnt been DOMINATEING in practice ..so im not sure where u are getting youre info from. second ..miller noah,thomas have had better careers then smith, griffin and jordan am i mistaken?..so that only leaves kaman and camby right?..so yeah the bulls bigs are better and jordan isnt playing behind griffin yet since hes hurt which means hes only playing behind smith camby and kaman..and actually i should be just kaman since camby starts at power foward..so yeah i know what im talking about…so explain from the careers how the clippers bigs are better then the bulls?

[The Big O]

COMMON SENSE

Do u guys realize that opening night the Clippers had to watch their cross town rivals get CHAMPIONSHIP rings?
Baron Davis and Deandre Jordan sat in the locker room despite Baron being cool with several Lakers.

If u ask Deandre Jordan, Marcus Camby about their careers I’m pretty sure they’re not happy about missing the playoffs by about 30 games.

Some of these posts r ridiculous, on the contrary Joakim Noah opened a lot of eyes this past spring in the playoffs as did Tyrus Thomas, Brad Miller as far as PLAYOFF moments go each of them had their moments.

From a player’s perspective and a PLAYOFF perspective The Clippers Bigs r not happy with their careers and I can tell u that as a fact just using COMMON SENSE

[quincey hodges]

wow..you agreed with me…man whats this world comming too..lol

[llperez]

I disagree that the bulls bigs are better then the clipper bigs. I don’t even think it’s a coparison. Camby and Kaman are both probably better then any of the Bulls bigs. I’ll also take even a rookie Griffin over Miller, Noah, Gibson or Thomas.

[quincey hodges]

we can say whos better but all you have to do is look at the proof from each players careers and what they do now..kahman is obviously better then all of them now and miller and camby might be a draw but after that noah is better now then smith jordan ..griffin hasnt played a game so he doesnt count and thomas is better then smith and jordan also…you forget this topic was jordan would get even less time wit the bulls because of whos in front of him…talking about now..right now griffin isnt playing so jordan only has smith kaman and camby to contend with..wit the bulls he would contend with noah miller and thomas..hes not better then any of those guys and i cant mention taj yet since he hasnt played a game int he regular season..see my point now

[llperez]

I agree Jordan isn’t being held back by competition, because truth is he needs to prove himself in games before you give a guy significant minutes. I’ve been saying that throughout this thread, so we agree about Jordan. But if you would honestly take Miller/Noah/thomas/gibson over Kaman/Camby/Griffin/Smith, I can’t agree with that at all. Kaman is one of the better offensive centers in the league and camby is one of the best defenders. Griffin should compete for rookie of the year and Smith is solid. The bulls guys are solid, but Brad’s been pretty weak for years now. The other guys can defend and rebound, but you can’t go to them down low and watch them go to work. Not nearly enough offense.

[quincey hodges]

im not sure you are reading what i wrote…the point was jordan would have a harder time in chicago because they have better bigs that ARE PLAYING NOW..blake is hurt…in clipper land he has to deal with camby, kaman,smith…in bulls land,,noah,thomas,miller and compete with gibson..you see what im saying now?..we are talking about right now as in this moment not future when blake is off injury

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2009/news/story?page=Clippers-Live0910

^ There’s your proof ^

According to Kevin Arnovitz of ESPN.com and ClipperBlog.com, DeAndre Jordan had been the most dominant at practice. That’s where I got my information. I’ll take the word of the man who actually sees the Clippers’ practices and blogs for them.

And I don’t care how you try to spin that “the Bulls’ bigs are better than the Clippers’ bigs” statement. I don’t care if you were talking about right now or in the future. As long as Kaman and Camby are on the Clippers, the Bulls’ bigs are no where near as good. Kaman and Camby alone are better than every big the Bulls have.

You also contradicted yourself. You said that Camby actually starts at power forward, so he shouldn’t count towards taking away from Jordan’s minutes, but then you include Thomas as a player he’d be competing against on the Bulls to get playing time. Thomas is an undersized power forward who NEVER plays center. Camby may start at power forward, but he plays a lot of minutes at backup center too.

[The Big O]

quincey is always contradicting himself. but as far as his sources I believe that his brother is poncho hodges and that he works out with the clippers bigs during the summer.

what we have here is 2 conflicting opinions, quincey’s brother’s opininon and a blogger’s opinion

now in REALITY Jordan needs to extend his range and be more versatile on offense, very good prospect

[JNixonParticipant]

Jordan would get time in Chicago, but right now he’s pretty much the same type of player as Noah, Thomas and now the rookie Gibson. So the Bulls would have 4 players that are wiry, limited offensively, and turnover prone grinders.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

The whole point I was trying to get Quincey to understand is that it’s tougher on young players who are playing behind established veterans. Last season Eric Gordon started off on the bench due to C. Mobley and R. Davis, though he was having his way with them in practice. Even when Gordon got in the games at first, Dunleavy had him on a very short leash. I could tell EJ was playing with the mindset of “If I make a mistake, I’m coming out.” I saw that same thing happen with Jordan. He made a few mistakes versus the Lakers and was pulled almost ASAP lol. Then he received a DNP last night vs the Suns. That’s why I keep telling Quincey… Be patient. Each player is different, but it takes bigs time. Give the kid time. I remember people were saying the same thing about Jermaine O’Neal when he was in Portland. Look at what he turned into… An all-star.

[quincey hodges]

and ill take muy word from players who actually played in the practice…thank ya..and jermaine oneal was good even when he want getting alot of time in portland..he had post moves ..his case is alot different then sorry azz d.jordan..lucky he wasnt drafted high else hed be a bust…he stunk first game and didnt even get to play the second game..right now he sucks..the proof shows it..and big o youre lack of basketball knowledge has been noted by everyone up here with youre talk about…..”brandon jennings is a 6’2 sg that only dunks and takes bad shots”…how about you see a guy play a game before talking about his game dummy…i proved my point in this chat and now ill enjoy thee nba games…ya’ll have fun wit this topic..later

[The Big O]

He’s a dunking PG that dunks and takes (off balance) shots>>> he ain’t CP3 yet
he’s got his strengths and his weaknesses…strength, size, and shooting
big guards like Chauncey Billups will destroy him in the post/slashing to the rim

and in HS he was more about highlight tapes than winning PERIOD
I catch him in basketball shorts I’m taking it to him on sight and u can bank on that lol
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[marcusfizer21Participant]

I am not counting on it too much but DeAndre Jordan to Chicago would be nice… Yeah… If you go in there and analyze the Bulls team, they don’t have the true center that can be a defensive beast nor an offensive beast for them… Joakim Noah is more of a power forward than a center… Tyrus Thomas is not a center obviously, Brad Miller is getting old and he is making the most of his tenure at Chicago with his expiring contract… Who else do they got? Taj Gibson? As much as he got those freaky long arms, he doesn’t possess post moves that can make him dangerous on the offensive end… Then you got Jerome James who does nothing but cheer while earning $7 Million Dollars… Aaron Gray whose as slow as a turtle… Practically, nobody screams post threat for the Bulls… It will be a luxury for them to add a potentially great Center in DeAndre and see him develop PATIENTLY… The Bulls right now have to settle for their back court to rely on for now…

[quincey hodges]

jordan isnt a defensive or offensive beats and noah has shown he can handle the center position just fine..hes better then jordan as well as miller being better then jordan..and the same thing you mentioned for taj applies even more for jordan..and even though aron gray is slow his numbers are very similar to jordans last year which says hes more skilled but isnt as athletic..jordan would go to chicago and either sit or play if all the other good big men got hurt

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