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Lakers should move Gasol for Bargnani and pieces

Gasol is not a great fit and if he gets more touches in the post, that will limit Howard. Bargnani likes being on the perimeter and is younger. Mike had a guy like this in New York name Galinari.

Gasol is getting older and his worth will be too diminished if Lakers wait too long.

Toronto is desperate enough to do this plus they have enough young big men that it may not hurt the long term

I made a similiar one on the trade machine but basically once Fields contract can be moved.

Kleiza, Bargnani, and Fields for Blake and Gasol.

Raptors can now start Ross and have a front court of Gasol, Jonas, Johnson and Davis. Calderon can be shopped now since Blake can at least back up Lowry at a cheaper price.


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So the lakers trade Gasol for

So the lakers trade Gasol for two bloated contracts and a guy that doesn't fit any of their needs? Hmm makes sense. LA should have dealt him to Houston when they had the chance

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As a raptors fan I would love

As a raptors fan I would love this trade though

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Lakers were extremely foolish

Lakers were extremely foolish for not taking Rondo for Gasol trade. Being a Celtics guy, I was very happy the Lakers rejected it. I think it's been about three years straight now the Lakers have been trying to trade him and they were too stupid to take one of the best PG's in the game for him. Rondo is still so underrated even amongst people on this site still.

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I am biased...

Since is Bragnani is (in my mind) the worst rebounding big in my memory... On top of that he is terrible at assists and blocks.If I were a Laker fan and they made that trade, I would throw up in my mouth...

Let's just say that my hate for Bragnani is immense

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may be...

Yep, Bargnani is a terrible rebounder and a medium shot blocker... but he is a very good shooter, he has a quick first step and he is not that bad in pass the ball.. it could be interesting, he may be a better big to play with D12. Yes it could be an hard job for coach Mike but i don't think it's impossibile. Anyhow i think this trade will never happen...

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uhm?

without Gasol the Lakers would not have won their last 2 championships, a 7" with his skill set? it is disrespectful for the lakers to be trying to trade him again!

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Pau Gasol is having one of

Pau Gasol is having one of his worst seasons ever. He is scoring the ball poorly and much worse than he has ever done. Do you know who he is still scoring more efficiently than? Bargnani.

Bargnani scores a few more points per game since he is Toronto's number one option. But he has never scored at a good percentage. He basically gives you average shooting guard scoring out of the center position, which is basically a waste of his team's time. The Raptors will never win as long as they continue to give that guy minutes. And then the rest of his game, especially rebounding, is some of the worst in the league. Bargnani would be a nicer "fit" but he is such a dramatically worse player, the concept of trading Pau for him is ridiculous.

Better plan. Wait for Steve Nash to come back, then win games easily. Lakers lost last night because Kobe had 10 turnovers (Nash solves that problem) and the Lakers played two PGs (Morris and Duhon) for a total of 47 minutes that combined to shoot 0 for 9, 5 points and 3 assist (Nash solves that, heck, Steve Blake can solve that problem).

Please no panic trades.

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If the Lakers trade Gasol,

If the Lakers trade Gasol, they need to bring back athletic shooters or an athlete and shooter. Something like Josh Smith and Kyle Korver(not going to happen but an idea of what the Lakers need). I agree that the Lakers need to see how it goes when Nash gets back. Nash can fix many of the problems.

Listening to the radio today, it sounds like Denver with Iggy is a possibility but that doesn't solve shooting. I don't think there is a single player the Lakers can get for Gasol that solves what they need for the new D'Antoni offense.

I think another problem is, what is Gasol's value. He has a high price tag, is an older player and has looked bad this year. An idea I had was Gasol to the Spurs for Splitter, Blair and Stephen Jackson. Would give the Lakers a shooter at the 3 and good defender. Plus, 2 young active big men with good skills. The problem is, the Lakers are trading Gasol for basically 2 role players and an expiring. Plus, I don't know if the Spurs would be thrilled to lose Jackson and Splitter who have good roles on their team.

Basically, it is going to be hard for the Lakers to trade Gasol for needs and it still look like an even trade.

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Didnt the Lakers Learn

Didnt the Lakers Learn Anything from the FAILED Collection of All-stars EXPERIMENT of 2003-2004?

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I think that was a bit

I think that was a bit different because those were older guys looking for a ring. This team expected all star level play from 4 of their 5 starters.

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Forgot about that year. I

Forgot about that year. I just don't see them getting it done. There is just no comrade on the floor. Chemistry can be worked on, but none of the four stars seems to be happy just to play there. I really don't think LA is Howard's or Nash's kind of town. Nash decision was more about his directing career, which I don't think much of. they have too much talent, they should beat many teams while they're only playing at 50%.

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When you look at these

When you look at these players, it looked like it could work. With Nash, Bryant, and Gasol you had 3 skilled guys that could shoot and create plays. The problem is, they are all more effective with the ball in their hand. Plus, Dwight needs a few touches. Someone was going to lose touches and this is happening without Nash. Now, Nadh could come back and play a Rondo type role but there are still one too many ball dominant players. Gasol would seem to be the odd man out if they go that route. If they can get a good shooter and tough interior player, they should look into it.

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Anyone think the Kings would

Anyone think the Kings would go for this trade? Robinson/Salmons/Jimmer or Brooks for Gasol? Or Cousins/Salmons and Jimmer for Gasol?

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Anyone think the Kings would

Anyone think the Kings would go for this trade? Robinson/Salmons/Jimmer or Brooks for Gasol? Or Cousins/Salmons and Jimmer for Gasol?

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I don't think the Kings would

I don't think the Kings would trade Robinson or Cousins straight up for Gasol. He is too old to be in any teams future. He can help teams for the next few years but it already seems like he is declining a bit.

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If the lakers were to trade

If the lakers were to trade for bargnani they would need to get calderon back and ship blake over with gasol. This would give them significant cap savings in the long run with calderon's contract expiring and barganani making half of what gasol is but with an extra year on his contract. this would give the lakers a bench of calderon, meeks, jamison & hill. This would also add the floor spacing to allow howard to work inside. not a bad deal for both sides. saves lakers boat load in luxury tax after this year and would allow for toronto to be a big free agent player in 2 years when gasol, blake and a host of other contracts come off the books. both teams would be better right away.

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Hold up, Gasol for Bargnani and Kleiza???

I couldn't imagine the Lakers taking that Deal unless they Stole away Davis and Ross too...

The trade would be lopsided as hell with Gasol, World Peace and a bag of Chips going to Toronto for Bargnani, Fields(after he becomes trade-able), Ross and Davis...This is a deal that greatly helps the Lakers while screwing the other team involved(As is the norm when dealing with the Lakers)

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I would agree that draft

I would agree that draft picks would be included but probably not Ross. Maybe future first rounders. Also Lakers would be taking less money and easier to move contracts.

The key to Mike D' Antoni's offense is spacing.

I will repeat this, Gasol will never be a good fit because he hate being on perimeter. He is a smart player but is old and does not fit well with Howard.

Howard can grab a lot of rebounds so you don't need your perimeter oriented 4 man getting many. Also Bargnani needs to do is make wide open 3's which will happen because he is 7 foot and Kobe and Howard are also on the team.

Gasol value is not as high as you think and his contract his horrible for his play. How much better will he get.

I have watched the game for many years and he probably could get 20 pts 10 rebounds on another team but never again on the Lakers. The sooner some of you other Lakers fan realize that and also realize that getting Josh Smith and Kolver is probably not going to happen.

There are only a few big men out there that can help spread the floor for the Lakers and dispite how you feel about him Bargnani is one of them. Mike tends to make players with the skills he likes better.

Bargnani may not look great now but for Mike he could look awesome.

Please look at skill sets and not just numbers. Chemistry on a great team needs to have players that actually complement each other and fit best in a organize offensive and defensive system.

I will truly rejoice once Gasol is not a Laker. Also there were other good players when Lakers one two championships. Gasol was the reason they don't have 3 because he played soft the year Boston beat LA but few of you remember that. That was a younger Gasol though and now you have to know when it is best to trade someone before their value drops to the point it make no sense to trade them.

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Sheltwon I agree Bargs may be a better fit D'Antoni

plus Mike D'Antoni would love to coach an Italian player...

I think people are a little upset by the stingy offer of Only Bargnani and Kleiza for Gasol, who is still a Top 5 Pf when he's playing well...

Ross and Davis would have to be Included and with Demar Derezon stepping up Ross could be expendable, Davis wouldn't get much time over Johnson or Gasol so that wouldn't be a total loss either...Jonas would have a great mentor in Gasol, as would Aamir Johnson...Fields would be the toughest to replace at first but I'm sure the Raps could find a Sf to fill in for him in FA or the Draft...

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If the Lakers are going to

If the Lakers are going to trade Pau Gasol, they need to trade him for someone like Hedo Turkoglue. He can shoot the 3 and pass the ball kind of like Boris Diaw in the Phoenix offense, you'd lose something on the rebounding front, but when Dwight is fully healthy, it would be fine.

Also the Lakers could go young and trade for someone like Motiejunas or Royce White from Houston, both can grow into perfect players in the Mike D'Antonio's system and both have star potential. Also the Lakers would probably be one of the teams that can deal with the Royce White Anxiety issues.

Also there is a rumor that the Lakers are working on Amare Stoudemire for Pau Gasol. I love the trade for the Knicks but I hate the trade for the Lakers.

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Hedo skills have gone

Hedo skills have gone downhill because if he was still good Howard may still be in Orlando

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