Lakers more than just a regular season bump, the 3peat in serious danger
The 2time reigning champion Lakers are going through a serious bump right now and a most people agree that is just the regular season but everything will be allright when playoff time comes. But there is something deeper than that. This relaxed manner on which the Lakers are playing can result more costly than anyone including the own Lakers can imagine. Right now the Lakers are 6 games behind the San Antonio Spurs and 4 games behind the Boston Celtics and if the Lakers continue to play in this relaxed way this margin will only keep growing. So what its only the regular season right? Well, is a lot more than that is also the home court advantage. So how important is home court advantage for the Lakers???. Well in their last 3 playoffs they only lost one series and it was against the Boston Celtics in 2008. But there is a common denominator in every single serie they won they had home court advantage. So in the last 3 playoffs the Lakers are 11-0 when they have home court advantage and 0-1 when they dont. That becomes obvious after checking the lakers home record in the playoffs. Throughout this 3 playoffs they have a stagering 31-4 home record but just a mediocre 15-17 away record. They win almost 90% of their home games but just under 50% of their away games. More than that the Celtics, Lakers rival in 2 of their last 3 finals is also a great playing at home (27-7) but not so much playing as a visitor (11-19). So lets say the Lakers end up with the 3rd seed in the west that seems where they are heading right now they would have to win their first playoff serie without home court advantage since Shaq but not only that they would actually have to win 2 in a row just to get to the finals (its been 10 seasons since the last time they did it). And once they get to the finals it doesnt get easier the possibility it they meet the celtics again (or a team that actually beat the celtics in a 7 game serie without home court advantage which is not good 4 the lakers either). If they meet again they would play 4 games in boston and 3 in the staples which is not favoring the Lakers at all considering they are just 1-5 in Boston but 5-2 in the staples last 2 head to head finals. So without home court advantage a Lakers 3-peat is just a long shot, so if the Lakers want to remain champions the need to start winning NOW.
It is certainly possible that the Celts don't come out of the East, putting the Lakers back in the discussion for home court advantage. It is a very LONG season and I think the Celts are just too old to finish things off in May and June. However, your argument backed up with the stats of the power of home court is huge. The Lakers need to turn it around immediately and it would help if Big Chief Triangle starts to coach this Laker Team before it is too late and the Lakeshow does not even come out of the West.
Yes I know that Im not saying lakers-celtics will be the finals is just an hypothetical scenario to emphasize how important home court is for the Lakers. Im actually hoping for a San Antonio- Heat finals my 2 favorite teams lol.
you must not have been watching the celts as of late. KG looks great, so does pierce, allen never really looks old. rondo hasnt played in the last 5 or 6 games which the only loss was to orlando. they are much deeper than theyve ever been. they can rotate 4 bigs, once delonte west gets back you have him along with nate robinson, avery bradley, von wafer, marquis daniels... the celtics are angry for losing in the finals last year and they are on a mission and i dont think the lakers could beat them even if they played better because boston is just looking that much better right now. and yes the lakers do need home court and its not looking like they will get it either. hell they will have extreme difficulty beating dallas or san antonio without home court advantage let alone boston
Boston looks as good as anyone and thats a fact. Right now they are the favorites in the east but hope the Heat find a way to beat (it looks difficult though)
You are looking at things that don't matter. The Lakers are plenty equipped to win another title, they can win on the road, and they are still the toughest matchup in the league because of Kobe and all the length and skill they have up front. Period, end of story.
It does not guarantee that they beat the Spurs or the Mavs in the West, but there is nothing lacking. Kobe Bryant has had a lousy two weeks. Andrew Bynum is being brought back into the mix slowly and there are bumps on that road with how if affects Pau and Lamar. It is going to work itself out, and in a best of seven series there is no team with more going for them than LA.
Any fair observation of the NBA hierarchy would have to acknowledge that there is a far greater chance of the Celtics getting knocked off by Miami (the real favorite out East) and more susceptible to the peripheral challengers like Orlando and Chicago. Orlando has four months to get their piece operating properly. If the Bulls grab Stephen Jackson for picks, youth (James Johnson), and scraps (Bogans, Brewer, Watson, Korver, etc), why wouldn't they be at or above Boston?
Let's stop talking about the Lakers until they can beat a team with an above .500 record.
IF not for the easy schedule they had to start the season, they'd be struggling siginficantly. The Heat beat up on below .500 teams too, but at least they've started beating good teams.
How about that argument that the Lakers haven't beaten anyone doesn't work when they have the past two titles?
If you want the most recent precident of the regular season not mattering much to the elites, check out how the 2006 Heat did against winning teams.
That's true, but still... They look pathetic right now. Eventually, they're not going to be able to just turn it on like they always seem to do.
U are just talking im actually backing up everything i said in facts. And the biggest fact here is the Lakers havent won a series without home court advantage since 2001 and although are a great home team in the playoffs they struggle as visitors so its more than just talking I would like to know on what u r basing ur arguments. Because 15-17 doesnt quite tell they can win a title on the road. Im not bashing the Lakers at all I have great respect for them just exposing facts
I have seen plenty of Boston games this year and agree, they look good and hungry to return to the finals. Especially with this being Doc's so called last year. KG looks healther than I have seen him in two years. I just think time will catch up with them in the end and we are still in December. Even though they are deep, Doc (as most coaches) tightens up the playing time and guys who see the floor come March and April, making the depth issue, almost irrelevant. It really only becomes relevant if one of the primary guys are injured. And lets face it, if Pierce, Rondo, KG or Shuttlesworth gets hurt, Orlando, Miami and maybe Chicago may be more likely to come out of the East.
The bottom line is there are plenty of teams playing a heck of a lot better than the Lakers right now and they have some work to do before talking about playing for their 3rd in a row.
The Lakers are a fat kid who used to be hungry before he ate two of those sweet cakes on the table... Now, he's too content/full to act like he wants another one.
Yeah lets stop talking about them because we know what they can do in the playoffs and we know every year there are post about how bad they look in the regular season. just check the past two years on here and see what im talking about. This is nothing new. Eventually they wont be able to turn it on and off in the playoffs but untill that day comes we will just have to go by what they have been doing the past two playoffs ( which has been win win win) They have proven that they don't have to dominate in the regular season so untill proven other wise they are still the champs who step it up in the playoffs
lakers wont have homecourt throughout and that obivously hurts. But the talent is there and on par with what they've had for the last 3 finals runs. Hopefully getting smacked in the mouth 3 straight games fuels them. Its still very early. Winning championships is not supposed to be easy. They are gonna be tested every night.
Well u r talking about bad regular seasons last 2 seasons but in b of them they had the #1 seed in the west that secured them home court this year doesnt loook like that is going to happen
My problem with the Lakers is that I know they have their core pieces, but they're looking older. Kobe is basically just a jumpshooter now Bynum is back, but how long can he stay healthy? Artest is looking awful and even Gasol has been worn down. The Spurs are deeper than they were last year and could be dangerous for the Lakers, they won by double digits with Ginobli and Duncan playing awful. The Mavs look legit right now and if they get past the first round could potentially beat the Lakers.
The biggest concern is that I don't feel this Lakers team could beat the Celtics they're just a flat out better team right now and we know what they can do in the playoffs. I might be crazy for saying this, but if the Heat some how face get to the finals I don't know if the Lakers could beat them. I know its just the regular season, but Lebron usually plays well against the Lakers and beats them and with Wade and Bosh next to him and, everyone knows all the calls Wade gets the Lakers could have trouble against the Heat. They have real issues right now that need to be resolved
"And the biggest fact here is the Lakers havent won a series without home court advantage since 2001 and although are a great home team in the playoffs they struggle as visitors so its more than just talking I would like to know on what u r basing ur arguments. Because 15-17 doesnt quite tell they can win a title on the road. Im not bashing the Lakers at all I have great respect for them just exposing facts"
What does home court have to do with the Lakers dropping game 4 in LA in the 2008 Finals? Forget what happened of long before this team was assembled. People talked about how the Lakers wouldn't be able to beat the Thunder -THE THUNDER- on the road going into game six, they won. They swept Utah, tough home team, in round two. People talked about how the Lakers couldn't go into Phoenix in game six, they won. They went into Boston in Game 3 and won. The year before, they won two games in Orlando and two in Denver. Would you have looked at the 3-9 road record of the Celtics in their most recent title season and say they can't win without home court? Funny how it hasn't mattered in the past two years when it was necessary for them to win on the road.
The Lakers take games off and don't always try defensively. It does not change the fact that they have, can, and probably win road games in the playoffs. They still have better bigs than anyone else, they have an abundance of wing defenders to throw to LeBron, and Kobe is nowhere near as bad as he has played the past two weeks. It is a nothing issue.
how does it look like its not gonna happen when we are not even half way through the season?..lol
the lakers are severly coasting right now.... i think they will get it back on track. kobe hopefully is not going to let them just take days off, including himself to. and yes there capable of winning on the road, but they have to be confident. Pound for pound the lakers are a top 2 or 3 team in the nba imo... they got the length, atheltism, shooters, etc.
its all a matter of how bad they want it
Kobe or Gasol. The Laker dynasty is coming to a crash. They should talk to Otis Smith of the Orlando Magic.
I don't understand how the Lakers can play without any urgency with Kobe barking in their ears. I can't tell if it's fatigue or simply not any urgency. The main and more obvious things I've noticed is that they play slow on defense. Teams have been running the ball down their throats in transition. The other thing is that the team passing and ball handling in general has been bad. The Lakers were known to be one of the best passing teams in the NBA...
They looked sooo much better tonight with bynum starting dropping 18pts and Odom coming off the bench which makes our bench must better and putting up 24. Bynum is rounding into fourm which will help Gasol rest a lil