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  • #16095
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    cyclo
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    Second round candidates:

    1. Ryan Thompson 6-6 220 SG/PG
    2. Mikhail Torrance 6-5 210 PG
    3. Jeremy Lin 6-4 200 PG
    4. Lazar Hayward 6-6 225 SF
    5. Ben Uzoh 6-3 195 SG/PG
    6. Sherron Collins 5-11 215 PG
    7. Landry Fields 6-7 225 SF

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  • #320420
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    llperez

    im hoping fisher, farmar and brwon all return. If they do, then the pg position realy wouldnt have minutes available although they could still draft a pg and see if he can beat out the laker pg’s since none of them are stars. Otherwise, just best available. I think Lazar haywoode could fit with his shooting. I am hoping someone drafts Landry Fields. I would like to hear why he is not getting much love for even the late second round.

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  • #320425
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    knicksfan7
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    I would love if the Lakers drafted llperez. He lacks post moves, but makes up for them with his dance moves. For all the newbies on the site you need to check out llperez’s dance moves. He was in a music video as a backup dancer for the great Quincey Hodges.

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  • #320442
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    yellowdunker
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    1.) Alexey Shved
    2.) Greivis Vasquez
    3.)Dexter Pittman (could be in rotation if trade for Bosh go through)
    4.)Jon Scheyer
    5.)Lazar Hayward

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  • #320444
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    cyclo
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    The Lakers need help at PG, backup SG and SF. Farmar is a free agent. Brown is expected to opt out. Fisher is old. Vujacic is a disappointment. Artest is on the downside of his career. Walton can’t defend and is injury-prone. Morrison is useless.

    I believe these are the players the Lakers should be looking at. Here are my NBA comparisons for each player in terms of size, position and skills.

    Ryan Thompson 6-6 220 SG/PG
    NBA comparison: Brandon Roy

    Mikhail Torrance 6-5 210 PG
    NBA comparison: Jrue Holiday

    Jeremy Lin 6-4 200 PG
    NBA comparison: Goran Dragic

    Lazar Hayward 6-6 225 SF
    NBA comparison: Bruce Bowen

    Ben Uzoh 6-3 195 SG/PG
    NBA comparison: Keyon Dooling

    Sherron Collins 5-11 215 PG
    NBA comparison: Tim Hardaway

    Landry Fields 6-7 225 SF
    NBA comparison: Matt Barnes

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  • #320449
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    storm33
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    Jeremy Lin? I don’t think so…

    How about Manny Harris?

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  • #320453
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    llperez

    thanks for the shoutout knicksfan. My dance moves certainly are better then Mark Madsens. Dont sleep on my post moves though

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  • #320459
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    Tobe Bryant
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    Hopefully Manny Harris and Lance Stephenson are available. Better than anyone already mentioned

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  • #320464
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    DNYCE

    43rd Lance Stephenson

    58th pick Omar Samhan when Bynum is traded

    We will sign Kyle Lowry in the offseason, if the Rockets match the Lakers offer, will go after Nate Robinson or Raymond Felton. Randy Foye will be the last resort.

    Lakers next season

    Lowry/Fisher/Stephenson
    Bryant/Stephenson/Vujacic
    Artest/Odom(backup SF)/Walton
    Bosh/Odom/Powell
    Gasol/Samhan/Mbenga

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  • #320518
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    JNixon
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    Lance Stephenson will be long gone before the 43rd pick.

    I think should target Mikhail Torrence for the 43rd pick, and then look at either Darrington Hobson, Charles Garcia or Sylven Landesburg with their 58th pick.

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  • #320592
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    DNYCE

    Lance Stephenson is not going to be long gone before the 43rd pick. This site has him going in the 1st round, but it aint happenin. The Lakers will trade up if they absolutely have to to land Stephenson. Stephenson is going to replace Farmar. We are going to play Stephenson at the 1 and 2 .

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  • #320594
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    DNYCE

    Mikhail Torrance is going to be long gone before the 43rd pick

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  • #320596
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    Tobe Bryant
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    With all due respect to this site, the accuracy of picks in the 2nd round have been a little off historically. Draftexpress has Stephenson landing at the 43rd pick because others fear his attitude and lack of athleticism. They also have Manny Harris being taken at the bottom of the draft, I don’t know what happened with this guy, but he should definitely be a little higher than predicted!

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  • #320597
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    Tobe Bryant
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    With all due respect to this site, the accuracy of picks in the 2nd round have been a little off historically. Draftexpress has Stephenson landing at the 43rd pick because others fear his attitude and lack of athleticism. They also have Manny Harris being taken at the bottom of the draft, I don’t know what happened with this guy, but he should definitely be a little higher than predicted!

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  • #320595
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    DNYCE

    Wes Matthews still better than Shannon Brown? LMAO you have no clue clown

    LAKERS 2009-2010 CHAMPS
    Offseason Moves- trading Bynum and Shannon Brown for Chris Bosh
    Kyle Lowry will be signed 5-6 mill a year
    Draft picks Lance Stephenson and Omar Samhan

    3peat team
    Lowry/Fisher/Stephenson
    Kobe/Stephenson/Vujacic
    Artest/Odom(will play backup SF minutes)/Walton
    Bosh/Odom/Powell
    Gasol/Samhan/Mbenga

    Sorry for spoiling the fun for everyone

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  • #320600
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    DNYCE

    Exactly sinkin3s and draftexpress is much more accurate than this site

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  • #320601
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    cyclo
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    I think it’s possible Mikhail Torrance could be drafted in the late 1st.

    Lance Stephenson is a SG, not a PG, and is too immature to fit with the Lakers.

    When it comes to young players, the Lakers are looking for quality people who’d fit with the team chemistry.

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  • #320605
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    DNYCE

    Cyclo you couldn’t be more wrong, the Lakers have quality players already(Kobe,Fisher,Gasol, etc) that can mold Stephenson into a mature youngman and a solid player.

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  • #320628
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    JNixon
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    “Mikhail Torrance is going to be long gone before the 43rd pick” by DNYCE

    Now how can you be so hypocritical? On Draftexpress, the site you were just blowing on and saying was the most accurate site in terms if mock drafts (which couldn’t be farther from the truth actually), Torrence is projected to be the 22th pick in the 2nd round. Also known as the 52nd pick in the draft. You shot down what I said about Lance Stephenson being long gone by the 43rd pick because Draftexpress had him being available at that time, and then say Torrence will be gone by the 43rd pick when the same site has him going later? Lets not be a hypocrite man.

    I’m done arguing with you though. You make stupid arguments all the time. And this is the 2nd round, who knows what’s gonna happen? There is no right or wrong in making a projection.

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  • #320621
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    cyclo
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    As a Laker fan, I wouldn’t be upset if the Lakers drafted Lance Stephenson, but I’m thinking the Lakers need more immediate help. Lance Stephenson is an immature 19 year old freshman who’s a poor outside shooter and poor free throw shooter. He doesn’t have the vert. He’d sit on the bench, wouldn’t crack the rotation, wouldn’t get any playing time whatsoever, and wouldn’t help the Lakers win ball games.

    If the Lakers don’t need immediate help, they should take him, but the Lakers need immediate help at PG, backup SG and backup SF.

    PG
    Fisher — old
    Farmar — free agent
    Brown — will opt out

    SG
    Vujacic — ineffective

    SF
    Artest — downside of career
    Walton — can’t defend, injury-prone
    Morrison — useless

    Immediate help is needed here.

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  • #320631
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    cyclo
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    Neither site is particularly accurate. DX is wrong all the time. They have to wait until they hear the feedback from NBA teams about 2 weeks prior to the draft before accuracy sets in.

    That’s why I just use the sites for stats, measurements, reports from the camps, and some player analysis, which I then use to form my own opinions.

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  • #320639
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    DNYCE

    First of all Mr. 6000 stop giving yourself points, second Torrance is the exception. Draftexpress is more accurate of a site, just because they have 1 or 2 guys wrong im a hypocrite? Your Logic=Failure. They have Lance Stephenson as the 58th pick, I don’t think that qulifies as someone who will be long gone before the 43rd pick you moron. By the way why are you concerned about the world champs? Shouldn’t you be worried about those 76ers? Those Iverson days are long gone bro take that pick off asap!!!

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  • #320641
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    DNYCE

    I don’t make stupid arguments, I just tell the truth
    Shannon Brown>Wes Matthews
    Shannon Brown>Derozan
    Shannon Brown>Belinelli
    Shannon Brown>Weems

    Once again you lose

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  • #320642
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    JNixon
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    I swear to Jesus Christ up above I have NEVER given myself any points ever since points even existed on this site..I don’t give a hot damn about points. And how can YOU tell anybody not to give points to themselves? Once again, being a hypocrite.

    Second read what I said, because if you do, you’ll see that what you said was hypocritical. You said Stephenson would be around for the 43rd pick, because Draftxpress had him being around in their mock. And then you turn around and say Torrence will be long gone, but the same source has him being around for the 43rd pick. You can’t just say it’s reliable for one pick, and then dismiss is as incorrect for another pick for the sake of winning your argument. That is hypocritical.

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  • #320643
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    McWinning
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    Lol i love how your saying he gives him self points while ten seconds after every post some random person (who i guess lives life with giving you a point ten seconds after you post as his goal) keep giving you points, and your points go down after that.

    Also its idiotic to say Torraence will be long gone, i highly doubt hell go ahead of guys like Crawford, Alibi, Richard, Whit and that whole group, he does have upsides, but i could see him going in the fifties.

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  • #320647
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    DNYCE

    When Draft day comes rolling around I will be back to rub it in you clowns faces, and I will do the same with Bosh and Lowry.

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  • #320652
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    JNixon
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    Man……Just shut up.

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  • #320654
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    DNYCE

    2009-2010 CHAMPS Lakers

    Mr. 6000 worry about your team

    Offseason- Lowry, Bosh, Stephenson, Samhan

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  • #320666
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    McDunkin

    I think the lakers should atleast have Greivis Vasquez on the list for the 43rd

    and Alexey Shved with the 58th

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  • #320668
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    DNYCE

    Grevis Vasquez will be a scrub in the NBA. We don’t want him, he plays no defense, we might as well keep Farmar.

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  • #320684
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    McDunkin

    Who is we?

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  • #320693
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    McWinning
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    DYNCE is Mitch Kupchecks mentally retarded 11 year old son. He thinks he think he holds all the cards in the Lakers operations , but really all the cards he holds are his $2,000,0000 sports card collection his dad bought him.

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  • #320959
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    cyclo
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    Thanks for the heads up.

    I agree.

    Alexey Shved should be on the Lakers’ draft board.

    Definitely.

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  • #321086
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    STEVEDOT2
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    we need help Hobson,lance,garcia forget need take the best player we can get because our bench is weak come on odom is weak to only think special about him is his skill set being big agile and able to handel the ball hes subpar in every other aspect but he gets it done we need help funny thing is fisher was getting cooked we need a point gaurd who can play d WE DRAFTED ONE TONY DOUGLAS AND TRADED HIM TO THE KNICKS if we dont win this year is because we ddint have a bench evrery team still in the play offs has a great bench

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  • #321088
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    JNixon
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    “come on odom is weak to only think special about him is his skill set being big agile and able to handel the ball hes subpar in every other aspect”

    You call Odom weak, and then say the only thing special about him is his skill set, being big, agile, and able to handle the ball. Dang, what else do you want the man to do LOL? You call him weak, and then named alot of things that he has going for himself. haha

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  • #321095
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    STEVEDOT2
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    ok your able to handel the ball but he doesnt have that kill intsinct look at lebron big fast forward he goes hard every times he plays anthony randoplh similiar skill set to odom he plays edefsne crashed boards trys to swat every shoot he sees frye had a nice mid range for a big man his team needed him to spread the floor he worked on his game and improved his 3 to the point he made the 3 point contest…..why doesnt odom anchor the d block shots or show and recover on the pick and roll why doesnt odom knock down wide open 3s that the suns give him why doesnt odom stick amere and let the center play frye and force him to take those 3s he struggled to hit this series…..why doesnt he attack like lebron and use his size and even bigger why is why doesnt he attack amere off the dribble a player who has qestioable d and isnt use to sticking big men who can creat off the dribble …….as i stated other then bing agile for his size and being able to dribble he doesnt have much of a game a go to cross over a post move he can do twice a game he doesnt use his ability to get to the line he doesnt work on his shooting to th point the seris could be over with all the wide open shoots he should have but when he plays good wich is once in a blue we win …and when he plays good he shows what he should do on average or close to he really doenst have nothing but a natrual gift and teh ability to dribble something he learned probally in high school when is the progress better yet where is the versatility realy????

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  • #321523
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    cyclo
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    Trading away Toney Douglas just to save Jerry Buss money was one of the worst trades in Lakers’ history.

    Douglas was the perfect triangle PG.
    Shooter
    Handles like a PG
    Plays D.

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  • #321549
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    llperez

    lamar odom is weak? No one is saying he is a star but pretty hard to call him out when knocking the lakers bench. If the lakers can get someone to take his minutes in the second round, then that would be an amazing deep draft.

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  • #321541
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    cyclo
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    1. Ryan Thompson 6-6 220 SG/PG
    NBA comparison: poor man’s Brandon Roy

    2. Mikhail Torrance 6-5 210 PG
    NBA comparison: Jrue Holiday

    3. Jeremy Lin 6-4 200 PG
    NBA comparison: Goran Dragic

    4. Lazar Hayward 6-6 225 SF
    NBA comparison: Bruce Bowen

    5. Alexey Shved 6-7 180 PG/SG
    NBA comparison: Brent Barry

    6. Sherron Collins 5-11 215 PG
    NBA comparison: poor man’s Tim Hardaway

    7. Ben Uzoh 6-3 195 SG/PG
    NBA comparison: Keyon Dooling

    8. Landry Fields 6-7 225 SF
    NBA comparison: Matt Barnes

    These are the guys I like for the Lakers.

    Just a note. I’m not high on Charles Garcia or Darington Hobson at all. I see them as Dominic McGuire types who won’t do anything well in the NBA. That’s not what the Lakers need.

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