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- Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 2:40pm #23159
Im Your FatherParticipantIn case any of you care, Duke beat Princeton 97-60 and Kyrie looked pretty good tonight,
26 min, 17 points, 4 rebounds, 9 assists, 2 steals, 6-6 from the line, 4-10 from the field and 3-6 on three-pointers.
He missed some easy shots early, but ran the team well and played pretty good pressure defense.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 2:42pm #434611
Im Your FatherParticipantOh and he had a block too.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 2:42pm #434612
Im Your FatherParticipantOh and he had a block too.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 2:42pm #434626
Im Your FatherParticipantOh and he had a block too.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 2:42pm #434613
McDunkinI saw the second half He,Singler, and Smith played pretty good.
Curry showed a good stroke
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 2:42pm #434628
McDunkinI saw the second half He,Singler, and Smith played pretty good.
Curry showed a good stroke
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 2:44pm #434617
RUDEBOY_ParticipantHe reminds me alot of CP3 ..
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 2:44pm #434632
RUDEBOY_ParticipantHe reminds me alot of CP3 ..
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 2:48pm #434623
JNixonParticipantYeah he looks ALOT like Chris Paul did as a Fr. I’ve always liked that comparison. He’s going to be a good one for Duke this year, he’s ahead of the curve as a PG, especially with the spread system runs. The spacing Duke plays with is very similar to that of an uptempo NBA team like the Knicks or the Suns.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 2:48pm #434637
JNixonParticipantYeah he looks ALOT like Chris Paul did as a Fr. I’ve always liked that comparison. He’s going to be a good one for Duke this year, he’s ahead of the curve as a PG, especially with the spread system runs. The spacing Duke plays with is very similar to that of an uptempo NBA team like the Knicks or the Suns.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 3:39pm #434674
nbaretroParticipantI think Irving is gonna be a stud. He should be highly considered for the #1 pick. I didn’t get to see the game but I heard he ran the team VERY well and even Coach K was impressed.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 3:39pm #434687
nbaretroParticipantI think Irving is gonna be a stud. He should be highly considered for the #1 pick. I didn’t get to see the game but I heard he ran the team VERY well and even Coach K was impressed.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 3:50pm #434697
butidonthavemoneyI’m going to get some negatives for this, but he reminds me of Mike Conley Jr.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 3:50pm #434684
butidonthavemoneyI’m going to get some negatives for this, but he reminds me of Mike Conley Jr.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 3:53pm #434690
nbaretroParticipantHow does he remind you of Conley?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 3:53pm #434704
nbaretroParticipantHow does he remind you of Conley?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 3:54pm #434692
Im Your FatherParticipantNomoney, Irving is much more talented than Conley Jr., and I’m not just saying because I’m a Duke fan.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 3:54pm #434705
Im Your FatherParticipantNomoney, Irving is much more talented than Conley Jr., and I’m not just saying because I’m a Duke fan.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 3:56pm #434696
whyyouhatingParticipantKid does remind me of PC3…
Duke got a deep as team, I forgot they got Thortan to another top 100 player as a back up PG.
Curry’s Jay is wet.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 3:56pm #434709
whyyouhatingParticipantKid does remind me of PC3…
Duke got a deep as team, I forgot they got Thortan to another top 100 player as a back up PG.
Curry’s Jay is wet.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:00pm #434701
JNixonParticipantMike Conley Jr doesn’t play as aggressive as Irving does. Irving isn’t as afraid to make mistakes. Irving also has a size advantage over Conley Jr.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:00pm #434715
JNixonParticipantMike Conley Jr doesn’t play as aggressive as Irving does. Irving isn’t as afraid to make mistakes. Irving also has a size advantage over Conley Jr.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:02pm #434706
tigers04ParticipantHe does remind me of cp3 a lot..kids a flat out stud
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:02pm #434719
tigers04ParticipantHe does remind me of cp3 a lot..kids a flat out stud
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:07pm #434712
ilike.panochasParticipantSo is Kyrie Irving the best PG prospect in the last 5-10 years? Because thats the way everyone is making it out to be, Mike Conley was a 4-5 star high school recruit and had a great freshman season at Ohio St, hes no slouch as far as a prospect. Is Kyrie Irving in Derrrick Rose’s class as far as a PG prospect? I dont think so. Irving is receiving too much hype right now.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:07pm #434725
ilike.panochasParticipantSo is Kyrie Irving the best PG prospect in the last 5-10 years? Because thats the way everyone is making it out to be, Mike Conley was a 4-5 star high school recruit and had a great freshman season at Ohio St, hes no slouch as far as a prospect. Is Kyrie Irving in Derrrick Rose’s class as far as a PG prospect? I dont think so. Irving is receiving too much hype right now.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:10pm #434718
Im Your FatherParticipantI don’t think he’s the best prospect in the past 5 years, but I do think he’s better than Conley. Conley was a borderline 5 star and Irving was ranked anywhere from 2-4 in his class. It’s also clear from watching him play that he’s better than Conley.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:10pm #434730
Im Your FatherParticipantI don’t think he’s the best prospect in the past 5 years, but I do think he’s better than Conley. Conley was a borderline 5 star and Irving was ranked anywhere from 2-4 in his class. It’s also clear from watching him play that he’s better than Conley.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:12pm #434720
nbaretroParticipantMike Conley did not have a great Freshman season at OSU, he had a good Tourney
He wasn’t even a lotto pick till the Florida title game.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:12pm #434732
nbaretroParticipantMike Conley did not have a great Freshman season at OSU, he had a good Tourney
He wasn’t even a lotto pick till the Florida title game.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:26pm #434731
ilike.panochasParticipantHis PPG wont idicate that he had a great freshman year because hes not a scoring PG, you really have to have seen the whole season to appriciate how he ran that team as a true freshman. I believe he was in the top 5 in APG in the nation and had a A/T ratio of 2.75, which is good considering hes a true freshman, plus he was one of the best defensive PG in the nation his 1st year. But im not here to defend Conley and how great/good he is, someone here made the comparison of Irving to Conley, and I think its the comparison is not that far off.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:26pm #434742
ilike.panochasParticipantHis PPG wont idicate that he had a great freshman year because hes not a scoring PG, you really have to have seen the whole season to appriciate how he ran that team as a true freshman. I believe he was in the top 5 in APG in the nation and had a A/T ratio of 2.75, which is good considering hes a true freshman, plus he was one of the best defensive PG in the nation his 1st year. But im not here to defend Conley and how great/good he is, someone here made the comparison of Irving to Conley, and I think its the comparison is not that far off.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:29pm #434735
nbaretroParticipantI seen his freshman season and remember, he wasn’t even considered a first round pick by many draft people. His numbers were alright but I remember many people considering it a weak draft class for point guards and he rose up.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:29pm #434746
nbaretroParticipantI seen his freshman season and remember, he wasn’t even considered a first round pick by many draft people. His numbers were alright but I remember many people considering it a weak draft class for point guards and he rose up.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:32pm #434741
butidonthavemoneyDoes he really have a size advantage? I thought both were around 6’1", similar build.
OK, Irving is listed by Yahoo as 6’2".
Anyway, they do have similar physical characteristics. Similar athleticism, quickness. Both good playmakers, solid defenders, excellent at playing passing lanes. Iggy, you’re probably right about his timidness, but there is no perfect comparison.
I watched the game, and was very impressed by Irving. I didn’t see Isiah Thomas or Chris Paul though, I saw Mike Conley Jr.
I am fully aware that this is only the first game of the season. We’ll see where he goes from here. He’s still my favorite to challenge Barnes for the first overall pick.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:32pm #434752
butidonthavemoneyDoes he really have a size advantage? I thought both were around 6’1", similar build.
OK, Irving is listed by Yahoo as 6’2".
Anyway, they do have similar physical characteristics. Similar athleticism, quickness. Both good playmakers, solid defenders, excellent at playing passing lanes. Iggy, you’re probably right about his timidness, but there is no perfect comparison.
I watched the game, and was very impressed by Irving. I didn’t see Isiah Thomas or Chris Paul though, I saw Mike Conley Jr.
I am fully aware that this is only the first game of the season. We’ll see where he goes from here. He’s still my favorite to challenge Barnes for the first overall pick.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:37pm #434747
JNixonParticipantIrving is about 190 lbs. Conley is 175-180. Irving also has the frame to get bigger, much like Conley has. Irving is bigger than Conley was at the same stage.
"Anyway, they do have similar physical characteristics. Similar athleticism, quickness. Both good playmakers, solid defenders, excellent at playing passing lanes. Iggy, you’re probably right about his timidness, but there is no perfect comparison."
There definitely is no perfect comparison. You won’t get an argument there. But when you talk about the mental aspect of the game, the difference between agressiveness and timid play is the difference between a star and a guy who is serviceable or worse in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:37pm #434758
JNixonParticipantIrving is about 190 lbs. Conley is 175-180. Irving also has the frame to get bigger, much like Conley has. Irving is bigger than Conley was at the same stage.
"Anyway, they do have similar physical characteristics. Similar athleticism, quickness. Both good playmakers, solid defenders, excellent at playing passing lanes. Iggy, you’re probably right about his timidness, but there is no perfect comparison."
There definitely is no perfect comparison. You won’t get an argument there. But when you talk about the mental aspect of the game, the difference between agressiveness and timid play is the difference between a star and a guy who is serviceable or worse in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:39pm #434751
stanford hoopsConley was very good. And he was considered a first round pick ( by scouts not these websites who base it off of there opinion). People tend to get confused and forget these Mick drafts aren’t done by NBA GMs and scouts. Some get some info from NBA teams but 9 times out of 10 it’s incorrect because the teams don’t want people knowing who they are gonna pick. I remember seeing conley and thinking this kid has the most undercontrol handles I have seen in a long time. He played like a vet and could pass his azz off. He also had a lil flare when needed. And he was a very good defender. Not the scorer kyrie is but I can understand the comparisions. Alot of NBA scouts thought mike would have the season he’s having Now in his rookie year. Teams were very high on him which is why he went so high and teams wanted to trade up to get him
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:39pm #434762
stanford hoopsConley was very good. And he was considered a first round pick ( by scouts not these websites who base it off of there opinion). People tend to get confused and forget these Mick drafts aren’t done by NBA GMs and scouts. Some get some info from NBA teams but 9 times out of 10 it’s incorrect because the teams don’t want people knowing who they are gonna pick. I remember seeing conley and thinking this kid has the most undercontrol handles I have seen in a long time. He played like a vet and could pass his azz off. He also had a lil flare when needed. And he was a very good defender. Not the scorer kyrie is but I can understand the comparisions. Alot of NBA scouts thought mike would have the season he’s having Now in his rookie year. Teams were very high on him which is why he went so high and teams wanted to trade up to get him
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:46pm #434757
nbaretroParticipantConley was very good. And he was considered a first round pick ( by scouts not these websites who base it off of there opinion). People tend to get confused and forget these Mick drafts aren’t done by NBA GMs and scouts. Some get some info from NBA teams but 9 times out of 10 it’s incorrect because the teams don’t want people knowing who they are gonna pick. I remember seeing conley and thinking this kid has the most undercontrol handles I have seen in a long time. He played like a vet and could pass his azz off. He also had a lil flare when needed. And he was a very good defender. Not the scorer kyrie is but I can understand the comparisions. Alot of NBA scouts thought mike would have the season he’s having Now in his rookie year. Teams were very high on him which is why he went so high and teams wanted to trade up to get him
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Well, some sites ( like this one) gets plenty of info from scouts. I looked at this site’s mocks in that time frame in 2007, he didn’t get on the mock’s 1st round until like Feburary.
Also, the PG class was WEAK back then. D.J. Augustine was considered one of the top guys with Ronald Steele and Acie Law plus Gabe Pruitt. Also, Listen to ESPN’s NBA Today podcast where they even discussed Conley’s 45 million dollar contract and them going back saying he wasn’t considered a 1st rounder by ESPN until the the tourney.
So, I remember he wasn’t a 1st rounder, Aran didn’t have him as a 1st rounder and ESPN didn’t have him as a first rounder until the tourney in which he lead OSU to a title appearance while Acie Law flammed out, Pruitt didn’t make it ( I believe) and Augustine lost in round 2.
He wasn’t that good and he got drafted high because the weak class.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:46pm #434768
nbaretroParticipantConley was very good. And he was considered a first round pick ( by scouts not these websites who base it off of there opinion). People tend to get confused and forget these Mick drafts aren’t done by NBA GMs and scouts. Some get some info from NBA teams but 9 times out of 10 it’s incorrect because the teams don’t want people knowing who they are gonna pick. I remember seeing conley and thinking this kid has the most undercontrol handles I have seen in a long time. He played like a vet and could pass his azz off. He also had a lil flare when needed. And he was a very good defender. Not the scorer kyrie is but I can understand the comparisions. Alot of NBA scouts thought mike would have the season he’s having Now in his rookie year. Teams were very high on him which is why he went so high and teams wanted to trade up to get him
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Well, some sites ( like this one) gets plenty of info from scouts. I looked at this site’s mocks in that time frame in 2007, he didn’t get on the mock’s 1st round until like Feburary.
Also, the PG class was WEAK back then. D.J. Augustine was considered one of the top guys with Ronald Steele and Acie Law plus Gabe Pruitt. Also, Listen to ESPN’s NBA Today podcast where they even discussed Conley’s 45 million dollar contract and them going back saying he wasn’t considered a 1st rounder by ESPN until the the tourney.
So, I remember he wasn’t a 1st rounder, Aran didn’t have him as a 1st rounder and ESPN didn’t have him as a first rounder until the tourney in which he lead OSU to a title appearance while Acie Law flammed out, Pruitt didn’t make it ( I believe) and Augustine lost in round 2.
He wasn’t that good and he got drafted high because the weak class.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:52pm #434769
stanford hoopsDoesn’t matter what sites had him as because NBA teams had him in the first round. Teams had him as a first rounder. Sites talk to scouts. But scouts don’t draft players teams do and teams are rarely honest about who they like till after the draft that way they get the player they want. If they were honest then a team picking ahead of them could draft the guy they want then trade the player to that team while getting extra players
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:52pm #434780
stanford hoopsDoesn’t matter what sites had him as because NBA teams had him in the first round. Teams had him as a first rounder. Sites talk to scouts. But scouts don’t draft players teams do and teams are rarely honest about who they like till after the draft that way they get the player they want. If they were honest then a team picking ahead of them could draft the guy they want then trade the player to that team while getting extra players
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:56pm #434773
nbaretroParticipantThat’s fair about the sites to the scouts part but you cannot argue, that was a very weak PG class and he got the bump in putting himself as the De Facto PG of that class.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 4:56pm #434784
nbaretroParticipantThat’s fair about the sites to the scouts part but you cannot argue, that was a very weak PG class and he got the bump in putting himself as the De Facto PG of that class.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:09pm #434795
stanford hoopsWeak class?
Carl landry
Durant
Jeff green
Al hortford
Jokim Noah
Rodney stucky
OdenAron Brooks
Big baby
Rudy fernandez
Marc gasol
Aron affalo
Nick young
Thadeuss young
Al thortanYea that’s a pretty weak draft. And was drafted high just because he was a point guard he went high because he was thought (by NBA teams not Internet scouts) to be a very good future NBA player. If NBA teams told sites who they were gonna pick the sites would get just about every pick right. If you noticed alot of sites get the same amount of picks right that the average fan on here gets
And it’s not outragious to think he wouldn’t have went in the lotto in last years draft by the way he played before curry,Jennings,Ty Lawson. In hind site of course gs wouldn’t now but at the time he had a great freshman year and help lead his team to the NCAA title game. Take into account he was a freshman so teams were looking at what he could possible do later in his career. People also forger he’s still young and is getting better so he’s not a finished product
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:09pm #434805
stanford hoopsWeak class?
Carl landry
Durant
Jeff green
Al hortford
Jokim Noah
Rodney stucky
OdenAron Brooks
Big baby
Rudy fernandez
Marc gasol
Aron affalo
Nick young
Thadeuss young
Al thortanYea that’s a pretty weak draft. And was drafted high just because he was a point guard he went high because he was thought (by NBA teams not Internet scouts) to be a very good future NBA player. If NBA teams told sites who they were gonna pick the sites would get just about every pick right. If you noticed alot of sites get the same amount of picks right that the average fan on here gets
And it’s not outragious to think he wouldn’t have went in the lotto in last years draft by the way he played before curry,Jennings,Ty Lawson. In hind site of course gs wouldn’t now but at the time he had a great freshman year and help lead his team to the NCAA title game. Take into account he was a freshman so teams were looking at what he could possible do later in his career. People also forger he’s still young and is getting better so he’s not a finished product
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:12pm #434801
Toronto16ParticipantGod, please let the Raptors draft this guy…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:12pm #434811
Toronto16ParticipantGod, please let the Raptors draft this guy…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:20pm #434810
nbaretroParticipantI said a weak PG class 3 times . Please read before critizing me. Thank you.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:20pm #434820
nbaretroParticipantI said a weak PG class 3 times . Please read before critizing me. Thank you.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:26pm #434819
ilike.panochasParticipantConley during his Freshman year has always been considered a mid-early 1st round prospect, and its not because of the "weak" PG class. Conley displayed elite PG "intangibles", ideal speed and quickness at the PG spot, he displayed great court vision (idicated by his high APG), a polished defensive PG and the fact that he declared as a freshman made his ceiling high because he was still getting better as a player. He had everything you want in a good PG except elite height and a working progress jumpshot. Now obviously he hasnt lived up to his selection, but back when he was a prospect, HE WAS worth a lottery selection and it had nothing to do with the weak PG class that he was in.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:26pm #434829
ilike.panochasParticipantConley during his Freshman year has always been considered a mid-early 1st round prospect, and its not because of the "weak" PG class. Conley displayed elite PG "intangibles", ideal speed and quickness at the PG spot, he displayed great court vision (idicated by his high APG), a polished defensive PG and the fact that he declared as a freshman made his ceiling high because he was still getting better as a player. He had everything you want in a good PG except elite height and a working progress jumpshot. Now obviously he hasnt lived up to his selection, but back when he was a prospect, HE WAS worth a lottery selection and it had nothing to do with the weak PG class that he was in.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:29pm #434834
stanford hoopsI saw what you wrote and I answered. I said he was drafted high because he was good. Teams don’t draft a point guard just because the rest of the point guards are good. That makes no sense. How many teams passed on other point guards after John wall was picked up? It had nothing to do with how weak a point guard class it was. So if there’s only one center and he’s not that good he’s gonna go lotto because it’s a weak class for centers?? Mmmmm no
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:29pm #434843
stanford hoopsI saw what you wrote and I answered. I said he was drafted high because he was good. Teams don’t draft a point guard just because the rest of the point guards are good. That makes no sense. How many teams passed on other point guards after John wall was picked up? It had nothing to do with how weak a point guard class it was. So if there’s only one center and he’s not that good he’s gonna go lotto because it’s a weak class for centers?? Mmmmm no
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:30pm #434838
nbaretroParticipantConley displayed elite PG "intangibles", ideal speed and quickness at the PG spot, and the fact that he declared as a freshman made his ceiling high because he was still getting better as a player. Now obviously he hasnt lived up to his selection, but back when he was a prospect, HE WAS worth a lottery selection and it had nothing to do with the weak PG class that he was in.
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No he wasn’t. He was not a better prospect then most of the players selected before him. He was considered the best PG in that class and a level better then Acie Law. He had a good tourney. Before the tourney? He was a mid 1st round guy at best. Before Oden got back? He wasn’t a 1st round pick. We can argue this until tomorrow but he wasn’t a better prospect then Joakim Noah, Thad Young or you can make the arguement for even Aaron Brooks. The fact his team got to the title game PLUS he had a excellent tourney pushed him into a top 10 pick status. He was NOT worth a lotto pick at the time.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:30pm #434847
nbaretroParticipantConley displayed elite PG "intangibles", ideal speed and quickness at the PG spot, and the fact that he declared as a freshman made his ceiling high because he was still getting better as a player. Now obviously he hasnt lived up to his selection, but back when he was a prospect, HE WAS worth a lottery selection and it had nothing to do with the weak PG class that he was in.
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No he wasn’t. He was not a better prospect then most of the players selected before him. He was considered the best PG in that class and a level better then Acie Law. He had a good tourney. Before the tourney? He was a mid 1st round guy at best. Before Oden got back? He wasn’t a 1st round pick. We can argue this until tomorrow but he wasn’t a better prospect then Joakim Noah, Thad Young or you can make the arguement for even Aaron Brooks. The fact his team got to the title game PLUS he had a excellent tourney pushed him into a top 10 pick status. He was NOT worth a lotto pick at the time.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:37pm #434850
ilike.panochasParticipantMemphis drafted Conley because it was A NEED, Im not going to argue if he is or not a better prospect than Joakim Noah, Thad Young, etc. or why he was drafted ahead of those guys, because Memphis needed a PG that year thats why he was drafted where he is. Regardless, he was still a mid-1st round prospect, and if Memphis would have passed up on him, he would not go lower than 20th pick. If you just watched him play at Ohio St instead of looking at draft websites, you can see he was a legit 1st round prospect based on his court vision, poise, leadership, defense.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:37pm #434859
ilike.panochasParticipantMemphis drafted Conley because it was A NEED, Im not going to argue if he is or not a better prospect than Joakim Noah, Thad Young, etc. or why he was drafted ahead of those guys, because Memphis needed a PG that year thats why he was drafted where he is. Regardless, he was still a mid-1st round prospect, and if Memphis would have passed up on him, he would not go lower than 20th pick. If you just watched him play at Ohio St instead of looking at draft websites, you can see he was a legit 1st round prospect based on his court vision, poise, leadership, defense.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:46pm #434856
nbaretroParticipantCome on now, now I didn’t see him play? That’s weak.
Yea, I saw him play. Looked pretty good next to Cook and Oden. I disagree Conley was a need because they had Juan Carlos Narravo and Kyle Lowry. They could have went with Noah and play him at C next to Pau Gasol. What lineup looks better (even at that time)
Lowry-Miller-Gay-Gasol-Noah
or
Conley-Miller-Gay-Warrick-Gasol
Come on, he wasn’t a need either.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 5:46pm #434865
nbaretroParticipantCome on now, now I didn’t see him play? That’s weak.
Yea, I saw him play. Looked pretty good next to Cook and Oden. I disagree Conley was a need because they had Juan Carlos Narravo and Kyle Lowry. They could have went with Noah and play him at C next to Pau Gasol. What lineup looks better (even at that time)
Lowry-Miller-Gay-Gasol-Noah
or
Conley-Miller-Gay-Warrick-Gasol
Come on, he wasn’t a need either.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 6:00pm #434887
ilike.panochasParticipantSo tell me, why do you think Conley was not a legit 1st round prospect? You haven’t really explained why, all you have brought up was it was a weak PG class and he was selected high by default. Court Vision? check, Intangibles? check, Speed/Quickness? check, Defense? check.
So tell me what was missing in Conley’s game that did not make him a 1st round prospect in your eyes?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 6:00pm #434894
ilike.panochasParticipantSo tell me, why do you think Conley was not a legit 1st round prospect? You haven’t really explained why, all you have brought up was it was a weak PG class and he was selected high by default. Court Vision? check, Intangibles? check, Speed/Quickness? check, Defense? check.
So tell me what was missing in Conley’s game that did not make him a 1st round prospect in your eyes?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 6:01pm #434891
BiggysmallsParticipantI think its funny that people want to compare a guy who just played his first college game against Princeton to arguably the best PG in the NBA.
Last I checked, Chris Paul is pretty damn good. Not to many guys get to that kind of level. I won’t say Irving can’t, but how likely is it in all honesty? He may be a good player, but to compare him to Chris Paul is plain foolish and setting the kid up to fail. Conley did have a pretty solid Freshman season at Ohio St…he averaged about 11 ppg and 6 apg on a team with 4 other guys who could score in double figures.
Lets stop comparing the guy to Chris Paul though, thats stupid. He may have that upside, but lets let him get into conference play first.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 6:01pm #434898
BiggysmallsParticipantI think its funny that people want to compare a guy who just played his first college game against Princeton to arguably the best PG in the NBA.
Last I checked, Chris Paul is pretty damn good. Not to many guys get to that kind of level. I won’t say Irving can’t, but how likely is it in all honesty? He may be a good player, but to compare him to Chris Paul is plain foolish and setting the kid up to fail. Conley did have a pretty solid Freshman season at Ohio St…he averaged about 11 ppg and 6 apg on a team with 4 other guys who could score in double figures.
Lets stop comparing the guy to Chris Paul though, thats stupid. He may have that upside, but lets let him get into conference play first.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 7:57pm #434986
HaleParticipantWhen people compare Irving to Paul they don’t say he will be as good or better then Paul. They just mean they have the same or similar strengths, weaknesses, and/or playing alike.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/14/2010 - 7:57pm #434995
HaleParticipantWhen people compare Irving to Paul they don’t say he will be as good or better then Paul. They just mean they have the same or similar strengths, weaknesses, and/or playing alike.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 4:52pm #440578
Im Your FatherParticipantI forgot to post this yesterday, but he had 13 and 9 against Colgate with zero turnovers. He looked fantastic getting into the lane and breaking down the defense, creating offense for himself and others. Granted this wasn’t exactly against a top team, but he looked impressive nonetheless.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 4:52pm #440601
Im Your FatherParticipantI forgot to post this yesterday, but he had 13 and 9 against Colgate with zero turnovers. He looked fantastic getting into the lane and breaking down the defense, creating offense for himself and others. Granted this wasn’t exactly against a top team, but he looked impressive nonetheless.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 4:52pm #440605
Im Your FatherParticipantI forgot to post this yesterday, but he had 13 and 9 against Colgate with zero turnovers. He looked fantastic getting into the lane and breaking down the defense, creating offense for himself and others. Granted this wasn’t exactly against a top team, but he looked impressive nonetheless.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 4:34am #441097
hiphopismylifeParticipantI like the Conley comparison over Chris Paul because of personalities. I think Irving’s demeanor is more in line with a Mike Conley, having the subtle, smooth game and being a laid back leader. Paul on the other hand is in the Isaiah Thomas mold of being a fiery guy who will get in a guy’s face if he has to. It just sounds better to say Chris Paul because people(including me) expect Irving to be better than Conley in the NBA. But to this point in their careers, Irving reminds me a lot of Conley. Lets not forget how good Conley was that year at Ohio State.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 4:34am #441104
hiphopismylifeParticipantI like the Conley comparison over Chris Paul because of personalities. I think Irving’s demeanor is more in line with a Mike Conley, having the subtle, smooth game and being a laid back leader. Paul on the other hand is in the Isaiah Thomas mold of being a fiery guy who will get in a guy’s face if he has to. It just sounds better to say Chris Paul because people(including me) expect Irving to be better than Conley in the NBA. But to this point in their careers, Irving reminds me a lot of Conley. Lets not forget how good Conley was that year at Ohio State.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 4:34am #441086
hiphopismylifeParticipantI like the Conley comparison over Chris Paul because of personalities. I think Irving’s demeanor is more in line with a Mike Conley, having the subtle, smooth game and being a laid back leader. Paul on the other hand is in the Isaiah Thomas mold of being a fiery guy who will get in a guy’s face if he has to. It just sounds better to say Chris Paul because people(including me) expect Irving to be better than Conley in the NBA. But to this point in their careers, Irving reminds me a lot of Conley. Lets not forget how good Conley was that year at Ohio State.
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