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- Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 5:44pm #24100
RObin PadillaParticipantwill he still enter the upcoming draft? or wait the year after? im pretty sure he will still be picked high in the draft if he enters..
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 5:53pm #459806
ilike.panochasParticipantI think he will stay another year, thats just my gut feeling. It just seems to me that Coach K usually able to convince his best players to stay longer than they should, and I think he can convince Irving to stay another year. And even if he does enter this year, I think Demitri McCamey will be the first PG chosen in this year’s draft.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 5:53pm #459823
ilike.panochasParticipantI think he will stay another year, thats just my gut feeling. It just seems to me that Coach K usually able to convince his best players to stay longer than they should, and I think he can convince Irving to stay another year. And even if he does enter this year, I think Demitri McCamey will be the first PG chosen in this year’s draft.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:05pm #459818
SwatLakeCityParticipantMcCamey will not be the first point guard chosen in this years draft and you can count on it. The first true point guard, yes (If Irving stays) but not the first point guard taken. That would be Brandon Knight unless Irving goes to the NBA after his freshman year. I think you’re being a little to bias towards McCamey and not realizing the talent that Irving has. Irving is like a Chris Paul, while McCamey is like a bigger Darren Collison. Which one would you take higher. Paul obviously by a long shot.
I too think Irving will stay but only because he is hurt most of this year. Coach K. will have a little reason to do with it but ultimately it is up to Irving. And I think he wants to have more college experience than just a couple of games. A shame really, because I love his game a lot and I would really like to see him in the NBA sooner rather than later.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:05pm #459835
SwatLakeCityParticipantMcCamey will not be the first point guard chosen in this years draft and you can count on it. The first true point guard, yes (If Irving stays) but not the first point guard taken. That would be Brandon Knight unless Irving goes to the NBA after his freshman year. I think you’re being a little to bias towards McCamey and not realizing the talent that Irving has. Irving is like a Chris Paul, while McCamey is like a bigger Darren Collison. Which one would you take higher. Paul obviously by a long shot.
I too think Irving will stay but only because he is hurt most of this year. Coach K. will have a little reason to do with it but ultimately it is up to Irving. And I think he wants to have more college experience than just a couple of games. A shame really, because I love his game a lot and I would really like to see him in the NBA sooner rather than later.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:38pm #459838
bigblackNbeautifulParticipantI see him going…. I mean look at the teams in the lotto that are hunting for pgs….. Detroit, Cleveland, Toronto, Sacramento, and Charollete. They all need pgs.. he is undoubtably the best pg in the draft. I would take him #1 if I was the Raptors or Kings. I think he is going to be another special young pg.. add him to the list lol. Cant wait to see what he does in the league.
Btw if he does stay. Does Rivers decommit from duke do you think?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:38pm #459855
bigblackNbeautifulParticipantI see him going…. I mean look at the teams in the lotto that are hunting for pgs….. Detroit, Cleveland, Toronto, Sacramento, and Charollete. They all need pgs.. he is undoubtably the best pg in the draft. I would take him #1 if I was the Raptors or Kings. I think he is going to be another special young pg.. add him to the list lol. Cant wait to see what he does in the league.
Btw if he does stay. Does Rivers decommit from duke do you think?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:45pm #459842
bigblackNbeautifulParticipantand his lack of upside.
He is the perfect player to come in and run your team and will be an extremely solid pro. But i just dont see him as an all star ever. Maybe I am wrong. But at least Irving and Knight have the potenial to be amazing, where as McCamey you know exactly what you getting. A solid player.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:45pm #459859
bigblackNbeautifulParticipantand his lack of upside.
He is the perfect player to come in and run your team and will be an extremely solid pro. But i just dont see him as an all star ever. Maybe I am wrong. But at least Irving and Knight have the potenial to be amazing, where as McCamey you know exactly what you getting. A solid player.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:46pm #459840
ilike.panochasParticipantI really would like to know why McCamey should not be considered the top PG in this class? Seriously, what does he have to do? 15PPG, 7APG 50%FG 50% 3 PT FG and to go along with his rediculous 2.65 A/TO ratio. This guy is Andre Miller all over again. Hes a big, strong PG with legit NBA 3 point range and what I consider a great court vision. I want to know what keeps him from being the top PG? Is it because hes a senior? Brandon Knight has shown me that he has a long way to go to be an NBA PG, he needs serious work on his passing and court vision, we know he can score, but can he run an NBA offense? McCamey is a very polished PG and is an instant impact once he arrives in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:46pm #459857
ilike.panochasParticipantI really would like to know why McCamey should not be considered the top PG in this class? Seriously, what does he have to do? 15PPG, 7APG 50%FG 50% 3 PT FG and to go along with his rediculous 2.65 A/TO ratio. This guy is Andre Miller all over again. Hes a big, strong PG with legit NBA 3 point range and what I consider a great court vision. I want to know what keeps him from being the top PG? Is it because hes a senior? Brandon Knight has shown me that he has a long way to go to be an NBA PG, he needs serious work on his passing and court vision, we know he can score, but can he run an NBA offense? McCamey is a very polished PG and is an instant impact once he arrives in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:48pm #459844
ilike.panochasParticipantMcCamey is fine athletically and his quickness is adequate enough to go along with his size. People are just too bias when it comes to SENIOR prospects and thinks most their upside is limited compared to younger prospects, but there are exceptions (Brandon Roy) and you can also put McCamey in this exception.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:48pm #459861
ilike.panochasParticipantMcCamey is fine athletically and his quickness is adequate enough to go along with his size. People are just too bias when it comes to SENIOR prospects and thinks most their upside is limited compared to younger prospects, but there are exceptions (Brandon Roy) and you can also put McCamey in this exception.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:52pm #459846
jaysmith1987ParticipantHe definately goes pro because all these high profile players play to get to the big stage he’s proven he’s a top guard and he will be a high pick so staying is more of a risk and a lot of these guys know they can go back to college and online while still accomplishing their dreams. If loul deng went pro so will irving.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:52pm #459863
jaysmith1987ParticipantHe definately goes pro because all these high profile players play to get to the big stage he’s proven he’s a top guard and he will be a high pick so staying is more of a risk and a lot of these guys know they can go back to college and online while still accomplishing their dreams. If loul deng went pro so will irving.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:52pm #459848
jaysmith1987ParticipantHe definately goes pro because all these high profile players play to get to the big stage he’s proven he’s a top guard and he will be a high pick so staying is more of a risk and a lot of these guys know they can go back to college and online while still accomplishing their dreams. If loul deng went pro so will irving.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:52pm #459865
jaysmith1987ParticipantHe definately goes pro because all these high profile players play to get to the big stage he’s proven he’s a top guard and he will be a high pick so staying is more of a risk and a lot of these guys know they can go back to college and online while still accomplishing their dreams. If loul deng went pro so will irving.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:52pm #459850
Im Your FatherParticipantOf course Rivers doesn’t decommit from Duke, as I’ve said over and over again. He wouldn’t even be playing the point anyway, regardless of whether or not Irving stays.
NEW YORK — Celtics coach Doc Riverssaid his son, Austin, hopes to team with Kyrie Irving next year at Duke.
Austin Rivers is a 6-foot-3 shooting guard from Winter Park (Fla.) who signed with Duke last month. If he and Irving were to play together, they could form one of the most explosive backcourts in the nation.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:52pm #459867
Im Your FatherParticipantOf course Rivers doesn’t decommit from Duke, as I’ve said over and over again. He wouldn’t even be playing the point anyway, regardless of whether or not Irving stays.
NEW YORK — Celtics coach Doc Riverssaid his son, Austin, hopes to team with Kyrie Irving next year at Duke.
Austin Rivers is a 6-foot-3 shooting guard from Winter Park (Fla.) who signed with Duke last month. If he and Irving were to play together, they could form one of the most explosive backcourts in the nation.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:53pm #459852
bigblackNbeautifulParticipantJust stating that if i am starting a team I want the youngest leader possible. Besides I would love to see McCamey go to a solid squad like a atl.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:53pm #459869
bigblackNbeautifulParticipantJust stating that if i am starting a team I want the youngest leader possible. Besides I would love to see McCamey go to a solid squad like a atl.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:37pm #459864
Mr. 19134ParticipantIt’s even simpler then that. If Irving and Meech were to go head to head Irving would own him. McCamey is more Marcus Williams of UCONN then anybody. He will be a better pro tho but is absolutely nothing special and will have a lot of problems guarding point guards at the next level. Kemba Walker owned McCamey in their lineup and will be pick atleast 10 picks higher then McCamey himself.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:37pm #459881
Mr. 19134ParticipantIt’s even simpler then that. If Irving and Meech were to go head to head Irving would own him. McCamey is more Marcus Williams of UCONN then anybody. He will be a better pro tho but is absolutely nothing special and will have a lot of problems guarding point guards at the next level. Kemba Walker owned McCamey in their lineup and will be pick atleast 10 picks higher then McCamey himself.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:47pm #459868
ilike.panochasParticipantI’m going to bookmark this thread and bump this thread up a year from now, everyone who has doubted McCamey’s ability to be a good NBA PG will be so wrong. He’s easily the most under rated prospect in this draft. People have absolutely no clue how good and talented this guy really is.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:47pm #459885
ilike.panochasParticipantI’m going to bookmark this thread and bump this thread up a year from now, everyone who has doubted McCamey’s ability to be a good NBA PG will be so wrong. He’s easily the most under rated prospect in this draft. People have absolutely no clue how good and talented this guy really is.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:05pm #459886
JNixonParticipantYeah. McCamey likely won’t be better than Irving, but he’s not much like Marcus Williams. McCamey has Williams’ passing, but he’s more of a natural scorer than Marcus Williams has ever been. He’s also quicker than Williams ever was too. He’s more Andre Miller than Marcus Williams. People always doubt players that don’t jump out of the gym or have earth-shattering quickness, but McCamey is a good enough athlete and he’s quick enough and a saavy enough ball-handler to be a good NBA player.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:05pm #459903
JNixonParticipantYeah. McCamey likely won’t be better than Irving, but he’s not much like Marcus Williams. McCamey has Williams’ passing, but he’s more of a natural scorer than Marcus Williams has ever been. He’s also quicker than Williams ever was too. He’s more Andre Miller than Marcus Williams. People always doubt players that don’t jump out of the gym or have earth-shattering quickness, but McCamey is a good enough athlete and he’s quick enough and a saavy enough ball-handler to be a good NBA player.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 9:12pm #459912
RUDEBOY_ParticipantMcCamey reminds me of Mark Jackson..Jackson wasnt a great athlete either and wasnt considered a future All Star and they said his upside was limited..Hell there were some that said he should’ve been a 2nd round pick and the Knicks only drafted him to draw local fans..But he came in and right away,helped made the Knicks contenders and won Rookie of the Year..Jackson had that old school game and got the ball to the right people..
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 9:12pm #459929
RUDEBOY_ParticipantMcCamey reminds me of Mark Jackson..Jackson wasnt a great athlete either and wasnt considered a future All Star and they said his upside was limited..Hell there were some that said he should’ve been a 2nd round pick and the Knicks only drafted him to draw local fans..But he came in and right away,helped made the Knicks contenders and won Rookie of the Year..Jackson had that old school game and got the ball to the right people..
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 9:36pm #459914
immaletufinishbutParticipantright now he is a top 3 pick, he should go because his stock cannot get any higher…..
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 9:36pm #459931
immaletufinishbutParticipantright now he is a top 3 pick, he should go because his stock cannot get any higher…..
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 10:22pm #459922
stealsgaloreParticipantI think Quinn Cook would be likely to decommit or at least seriously consider going somewhere else if Irving stays. Much more likely to decommit than Rivers anyway.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 10:22pm #459939
stealsgaloreParticipantI think Quinn Cook would be likely to decommit or at least seriously consider going somewhere else if Irving stays. Much more likely to decommit than Rivers anyway.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 10:56pm #459936
Ghost01ParticipantIf Irving stays, Quinn Cook immediately has no value to Duke and should decommit.
Rivers/Irving would be like Curry/Ellis only at the college level on steroids.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 10:56pm #459953
Ghost01ParticipantIf Irving stays, Quinn Cook immediately has no value to Duke and should decommit.
Rivers/Irving would be like Curry/Ellis only at the college level on steroids.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 4:19am #459976
mj23mj23besteverParticipantbe one of the best college back courts in years on the mcamey subject imo hes gonna be a very solid nba pg he shoots it well enough great court vision and too me has the leadership ability to be very solid oh and i think irving comes back even though hed still be a top pick in the draft with so many teams needing pg
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 4:19am #459993
mj23mj23besteverParticipantbe one of the best college back courts in years on the mcamey subject imo hes gonna be a very solid nba pg he shoots it well enough great court vision and too me has the leadership ability to be very solid oh and i think irving comes back even though hed still be a top pick in the draft with so many teams needing pg
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 4:23am #459978
Im Your FatherParticipantOnce again, Cook would not decommit. He would come off the bench for one year, and then move into the starting role. Not every single player can start from day one.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 4:23am #459995
Im Your FatherParticipantOnce again, Cook would not decommit. He would come off the bench for one year, and then move into the starting role. Not every single player can start from day one.
0- Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 6:15am #460035
dukehoops47ParticipantI completely agree why would cook decommit its not like he would be a one and done anyway
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 6:15am #460018
dukehoops47ParticipantI completely agree why would cook decommit its not like he would be a one and done anyway
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- Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 6:15am #460033
Mr. ChicagoParticipantCook and Rivers are signed, so they can not decommit without sitting out a year, and i highly doubt either would do that.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/150
off ncaa.org.
"Is an athletic scholarship the same thing as a national letter of intent?
No, but they are often confused with each other. By signing a national letter of intent (NLI),
a future NCAA student-athlete ends the recruiting process with all other NLI institutions
and commits to a school for one year. In return, the student-athlete is guaranteed a one-year
scholarship from that school. The NLI seeks to limit recruiting pressure and promote amateurism
but signing one is not a required step to earning an athletic scholarship. You can visit
http://www.national-letter.org for more information about the NLI."
The key there is it ends the recruiting process.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 6:15am #460016
Mr. ChicagoParticipantCook and Rivers are signed, so they can not decommit without sitting out a year, and i highly doubt either would do that.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/150
off ncaa.org.
"Is an athletic scholarship the same thing as a national letter of intent?
No, but they are often confused with each other. By signing a national letter of intent (NLI),
a future NCAA student-athlete ends the recruiting process with all other NLI institutions
and commits to a school for one year. In return, the student-athlete is guaranteed a one-year
scholarship from that school. The NLI seeks to limit recruiting pressure and promote amateurism
but signing one is not a required step to earning an athletic scholarship. You can visit
http://www.national-letter.org for more information about the NLI."
The key there is it ends the recruiting process.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 6:21am #460045
Im Your FatherParticipantI’d like to further add, that the reason Duke won the National Championship last year was because they had players, like Smith and Thomas and Zoubek, who didn’t play immediately, but developed a ton to the point where they were good college players.
To say "Cook has no value to Duke" is just stupid.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 6:21am #460028
Im Your FatherParticipantI’d like to further add, that the reason Duke won the National Championship last year was because they had players, like Smith and Thomas and Zoubek, who didn’t play immediately, but developed a ton to the point where they were good college players.
To say "Cook has no value to Duke" is just stupid.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 6:23am #460047
dukeno110Participantis he out for the season actually?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 6:23am #460030
dukeno110Participantis he out for the season actually?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 6:37am #460040
Im Your FatherParticipantMost likely, there is no official statement, but the word is that he MIGHT be back in early march, but I wouldn’t count on it.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 6:37am #460056
Im Your FatherParticipantMost likely, there is no official statement, but the word is that he MIGHT be back in early march, but I wouldn’t count on it.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 6:38am #460042
SwatLakeCityParticipantI’m not doubting McCamey’s athletic ability and I certainly am not bias towards him being a senior. As a matter of fact I respect that more than anything else. But notice in 2010 the first senior wasn’t taken until the 23rd pick and probably should have gone even lower. Just because a player has that much experience doesn’t mean he should be picked a lot higher. He does not blow you away because he really doesn’t have that much athletic ability. He does when he plays against lesser competiton, but how many times have you seen him so well against better competition? Not too many I expect. Don’t get me wrong I love the guy, and he’s gonna be a solid pro in this league. Think of it this way, Eric Maynor is a solid pro, and just that a solid pro. He stayed all 4 years at VCU and really fined tuned his game. He is the perfect young backup to Russell Westbrook and also was the perfect backup to one of the best PG’s in the NBA today, Deron Williams. He is also a great passer, and quite a player too. McCamey is a lot like him just bigger. And I would love to see the Jazz draft him especially since both of them went to the same college. But like said before McCamey is a lot like Eric Maynor just a little bigger. Would you have selected Eric Maynor in the lottery of the 2009 draft? Of course not, and nobody ever would have. I have a lot of respect for McCamey and I really like his game, but I just don’t think he should go in the lottery. Now, maybe I’m wrong maybe he really is the next Dwill. And if so, that’s excellent, all the more power to him. But I don’t think so. Dwill didn’t stay for his senior year, he left being only a junior. So why do you think McCamey stayed an extra year? Could it be because he realized that his stock was not that high and for a good reason too. I don’t think it will change too much in just one year. Teams don’t notice players from schools like Illinois for good reason. They don’t get much national attention. That and superior athletic ability is what I think McCamey is missing.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 6:38am #460058
SwatLakeCityParticipantI’m not doubting McCamey’s athletic ability and I certainly am not bias towards him being a senior. As a matter of fact I respect that more than anything else. But notice in 2010 the first senior wasn’t taken until the 23rd pick and probably should have gone even lower. Just because a player has that much experience doesn’t mean he should be picked a lot higher. He does not blow you away because he really doesn’t have that much athletic ability. He does when he plays against lesser competiton, but how many times have you seen him so well against better competition? Not too many I expect. Don’t get me wrong I love the guy, and he’s gonna be a solid pro in this league. Think of it this way, Eric Maynor is a solid pro, and just that a solid pro. He stayed all 4 years at VCU and really fined tuned his game. He is the perfect young backup to Russell Westbrook and also was the perfect backup to one of the best PG’s in the NBA today, Deron Williams. He is also a great passer, and quite a player too. McCamey is a lot like him just bigger. And I would love to see the Jazz draft him especially since both of them went to the same college. But like said before McCamey is a lot like Eric Maynor just a little bigger. Would you have selected Eric Maynor in the lottery of the 2009 draft? Of course not, and nobody ever would have. I have a lot of respect for McCamey and I really like his game, but I just don’t think he should go in the lottery. Now, maybe I’m wrong maybe he really is the next Dwill. And if so, that’s excellent, all the more power to him. But I don’t think so. Dwill didn’t stay for his senior year, he left being only a junior. So why do you think McCamey stayed an extra year? Could it be because he realized that his stock was not that high and for a good reason too. I don’t think it will change too much in just one year. Teams don’t notice players from schools like Illinois for good reason. They don’t get much national attention. That and superior athletic ability is what I think McCamey is missing.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 7:02am #460048
JNixonParticipant"I don’t think it will change too much in just one year. Teams don’t notice players from schools like Illinois for good reason. They don’t get much national attention. That and superior athletic ability is what I think McCamey is missing."
Yeah you don’t have a clue right now. Illinois gets as much attention as any high major top 15 team. It’s not like you’re talking about San Diego State or BYU or a mid-major team that isn’t as known to the public, Illinois has played on national TV twice already to start this season (against Texas and UNC). Maybe you’re from an area were Illinois isn’t prevalent, but it’s erroneous to say they don’t get much national attention. They get more national attention than the average team does actually.
And in regards to the "his draft stock won’t change much in 1 year," statement, I beg to differ. McCamey has improved himself so much from a prospect perspective that he has improved his stock, and if he keeps up his body and stays slim like he’s managed to do this season so far, he will definitely improve his stock. Last year, if he would’ve stayed in the draft he would’ve been a 2nd round pick no matter what. If the season ended today he’d be a top 20 pick in the draft. You haven’t been watching college hoops obviously, because he’s not the same player he was last year. Nothing you said concerning Illinois or McCamey was right lol.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 7:02am #460064
JNixonParticipant"I don’t think it will change too much in just one year. Teams don’t notice players from schools like Illinois for good reason. They don’t get much national attention. That and superior athletic ability is what I think McCamey is missing."
Yeah you don’t have a clue right now. Illinois gets as much attention as any high major top 15 team. It’s not like you’re talking about San Diego State or BYU or a mid-major team that isn’t as known to the public, Illinois has played on national TV twice already to start this season (against Texas and UNC). Maybe you’re from an area were Illinois isn’t prevalent, but it’s erroneous to say they don’t get much national attention. They get more national attention than the average team does actually.
And in regards to the "his draft stock won’t change much in 1 year," statement, I beg to differ. McCamey has improved himself so much from a prospect perspective that he has improved his stock, and if he keeps up his body and stays slim like he’s managed to do this season so far, he will definitely improve his stock. Last year, if he would’ve stayed in the draft he would’ve been a 2nd round pick no matter what. If the season ended today he’d be a top 20 pick in the draft. You haven’t been watching college hoops obviously, because he’s not the same player he was last year. Nothing you said concerning Illinois or McCamey was right lol.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 7:17am #460052
kobyzParticipantDemitri McCamey is like Derek Fisher only bigger!
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 7:17am #460068
kobyzParticipantDemitri McCamey is like Derek Fisher only bigger!
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 7:58am #460109
JNixonParticipantHe is more ball-reliant than Fisher and much better off the dribble.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 7:58am #460124
JNixonParticipantHe is more ball-reliant than Fisher and much better off the dribble.
0- Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 8:22am #460131
kobyzParticipanti think they are very close in those departments, they are just in diffrent situations, McCamey is the man guy of his team and play college ball and Fisher play next to Kobe and also he is not young Fisher is better off the dribble then what we see now. in the NBA i think thet McCamey will be very similar to Fisher in his prime!
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 8:22am #460146
kobyzParticipanti think they are very close in those departments, they are just in diffrent situations, McCamey is the man guy of his team and play college ball and Fisher play next to Kobe and also he is not young Fisher is better off the dribble then what we see now. in the NBA i think thet McCamey will be very similar to Fisher in his prime!
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- Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 8:04am #460115
andxxxParticipantDemitri McCamey when I’ve seen him play looks really good and actually reminds me of Raymond Felton with his ability to manage a team, make shots and just an overall reliable point guard even if I don’t see him as a superstar
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 8:04am #460130
andxxxParticipantDemitri McCamey when I’ve seen him play looks really good and actually reminds me of Raymond Felton with his ability to manage a team, make shots and just an overall reliable point guard even if I don’t see him as a superstar
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 8:49am #460147
YeahhBuddy1Participant1. I think he stays because he’s played what, 8 games this year? He’s a smart kid && knows what’s best for him, && whats best for him is to stay. He can team up with Austin Rivers to form the best backcourt in a longggg time && possibly win a championship. I don’t really see his stock going down because of him staying.
2. McCamey is a good pg, he kind of reminds me of a poor man’s Deron Williams..but he is not going to be the first pg taken. With all the great young pg’s in the league today it’s almost a necessity to have above average athleticism just so you can keep up with them. He’ll be solid, real solid, but GM’s will take guys like Irving (if he leaves), Knight, Selby, && with the year he’s having maybe even Walker, ahead of him.
3. If irving stays neither Cook nor Rivers will decommit. Rivers has said time && time again he wants to play with Irving. When Cook committed he said it was a win-win situation for him because if Irving leaves thats more of a chance for him to be a starter, but if he stays he gets to play against the best pg in the nation EVERYDAY && get better.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 8:49am #460162
YeahhBuddy1Participant1. I think he stays because he’s played what, 8 games this year? He’s a smart kid && knows what’s best for him, && whats best for him is to stay. He can team up with Austin Rivers to form the best backcourt in a longggg time && possibly win a championship. I don’t really see his stock going down because of him staying.
2. McCamey is a good pg, he kind of reminds me of a poor man’s Deron Williams..but he is not going to be the first pg taken. With all the great young pg’s in the league today it’s almost a necessity to have above average athleticism just so you can keep up with them. He’ll be solid, real solid, but GM’s will take guys like Irving (if he leaves), Knight, Selby, && with the year he’s having maybe even Walker, ahead of him.
3. If irving stays neither Cook nor Rivers will decommit. Rivers has said time && time again he wants to play with Irving. When Cook committed he said it was a win-win situation for him because if Irving leaves thats more of a chance for him to be a starter, but if he stays he gets to play against the best pg in the nation EVERYDAY && get better.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 9:02am #460149
JNixonParticipantOther than being strong for PG’s, Fisher and McCamey play nothing alike. And they never have really.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 9:02am #460164
JNixonParticipantOther than being strong for PG’s, Fisher and McCamey play nothing alike. And they never have really.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 9:32am #460157
HitsterParticipantRivers will not decommit as he stand to be a one and done guy, he can play SG alongside Irving and will play some PG as well. Cook can be used as a back up or if he is unlikely to be in rotation then Coach K could advise him to redshirt for a year to retain extra eligibility down the line.
Irving if he is fit near the draft time can test the waters but he if he declares he would need to pass very strict medicals and if his injury wasn’t healed properly then he could start to fall down the draft as team’s cannot risk taking a player who may have some injury concerns too high in the draft. But Irving’s downside would surely be limited unless he had serious long term injury worries as he is too good a player.
I’d guess depending on how quickly he recovers, he tests the waters and then makes a final decision.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 9:32am #460172
HitsterParticipantRivers will not decommit as he stand to be a one and done guy, he can play SG alongside Irving and will play some PG as well. Cook can be used as a back up or if he is unlikely to be in rotation then Coach K could advise him to redshirt for a year to retain extra eligibility down the line.
Irving if he is fit near the draft time can test the waters but he if he declares he would need to pass very strict medicals and if his injury wasn’t healed properly then he could start to fall down the draft as team’s cannot risk taking a player who may have some injury concerns too high in the draft. But Irving’s downside would surely be limited unless he had serious long term injury worries as he is too good a player.
I’d guess depending on how quickly he recovers, he tests the waters and then makes a final decision.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 9:45am #460161
Ghost01ParticipantTo say "Cook has no value to Duke" is just stupid
He will be their 5th guard next year.
Then he will be there 3rd guard the year after.
And if they bring in any Huge Irving/Rivers types he might not even ever be a starter.
This guy could start on 90% of the teams in the NCAA from day 1. I would decommit if i was him, and im a huge duke fan. Players want to play, thats the bottomline.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 12/17/2010 - 9:45am #460176
Ghost01ParticipantTo say "Cook has no value to Duke" is just stupid
He will be their 5th guard next year.
Then he will be there 3rd guard the year after.
And if they bring in any Huge Irving/Rivers types he might not even ever be a starter.
This guy could start on 90% of the teams in the NCAA from day 1. I would decommit if i was him, and im a huge duke fan. Players want to play, thats the bottomline.
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