KYLE ANDERSON - point guard, not a point-forward..
Kyle Anderson aka Slo-Mo is Magic Johnson in 2014... Some would say its a bold statement but imo I think his game and approach is very similar. UCLA is 11-2 on the season, and Kyle's averaging the closest thing to a triple-double I've ever seen (Im 23 years old), with 15ppg, 9rpg, and nearly 7apg, to go with a 1block and 2steals.
I am in no way a UCLA fan, but I do idolize the career and overall play of Erving "Magic" Johnson and see quite a few similarites between him and Kyle Anderson. The point Im trying to make is that Kyle Anderson isnt receiving the acclaim for his play that I believe he deserves.
I feel that analyst are slighting his play and writing off his stats because of his "slower" approach to the game and arent looking at him as a 6'9 point guard, but as a 6'9 forward with the ability to create. I watch and understand the nuances and difference between the NBA and NCAA, but I think the spacing and faster pace of the NBA would actually negate some of the perceived weakness scouts see in Slo-Mo's game.
My question for the forum is, why cant Kyle Anderson simply be a 6'9 point guard in 2014, and be appreciated for his well-rounded game despite not have blazing speed or quickness? There really arent any true point guards available this year that have better floor leadership and passing ability than Kyle, so why cant he play point guard (FULL TIME) in the league, why is it not even considered an option?
Magic Johnson led LA to 5 titles and he wasnt fast at all, nor did he have an amazing jumpshot or defensive stopper abilites, but he did have was an Einstein-level basketball IQ, a history of winning, an amazing feel for anticipating play development and an instinct to make the correct pass.
Im not saying Kyle is a Top 5 pick but I do believe he's lottery-worthy. Zach Lavine and Jordan Adams are receivig ALOT of the buzz but I truly believe that UCLA team would be shit if Kyle wasnt playing how he is.
Comparison: MAGIC JOHNSON, seriously
Just so you know, Magic's name is EARVIN not ERVING
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I get what you are saying, Kyle Anderson is underrated and I think he can be a mid first rounder, however you are seriously underrating Magic Johnson's athletic ability. His change of direction and speed in the open court and transition were tremendous. He had a very quick first step and very quick hands, sure he wasn't that much of a leaper but he could run very fast from one end to the other on the court. As for Kyle Anderson, he is def. being written off by some people, he plays with a great pace and has a tremendous basketball IQ, but I think he would be a point forward at the next level because the speed of point guards at the next level will make him tough to defend and even get by. I think he is a 3 at the next level where you can operate with him as your play maker in the half court offense.
Also, Magic was a pretty athletic guy. Much more athletic and quick than Anderson is. Not saying Anderson can't be a 6'9" point guard in the NBA, I just think it's unfair to compare someone to arguably the greatest point guard of all time.
Here's some highlights of Magic's career to help display that underrated athletic ability of his too
Magic was wall more athletic than Anderson. He was so good at running the fastbreak that it earned his Lakers team a nickname! Anderson has many strengths, but running/organizing a fast break is not one of them. As much as he helps them in the half court, he hurts them in trasition.
Also, in the NBA it's not what you can do, but who you can guard that defines your position. That is why Anderson is not considered a PG prospect.
dumb comparison magic played defense and was athletic just because a guy is the same height as someone and does similar things doesnt mean you have to compare them. Idiotic comparison to be blunt.
I guess he can play with two 2guards and run point and have one of the other guards defend they point
I totally agree.. theres so many undersized 2-guards why not play him at the point offensively and allow him to stick the slower wings, while still setting up the offense.. The new Nba is damn near positionless anyway
...I have been excited about Kyle Anderson for that exact reason. There are just a TON of undersized SG's playing PG in the NBA currently. Hell, even D. Rose (if and when he gets healthy) is more of a lead scoring guard than a PG. Having Anderson on a team can really help alleviate some defensive issues by guarding the scoring guard of the other team but being the primary distributor on the offense. That's why he would be a STEAL in the 2nd round of the draft (where he is sitting the last time I looked at the full mock). IMHO (and apprently even his own father's opinion), he could stick around the NBA for a long time. If you get a 10+ year NBA rotation player (at the very least) with a 2nd round pick you have done your job as a GM. The only thing in my opinion, that is a VERY bad draft pick (and what causes teams in every major sport to suck for a long time) wether it's 1st or 2nd round is someone who can't really stick around the league for longer than 5 seasons. Those guys who just wash out are worthless. Top 10 is where you hope to land starters and All-Stars. Kirk Hinrich was the #7 pick in 2003. Compared to many of the other All-Stars that were taken that year, he isn't a brilliant pick. But, he is still playing starter's minutes in 2014. So, he isn't a BAD pick. He just isn't a great one.
Yeah I agree, he would be great to pair up with scoring/shooting type pg. Kinda what the Warriors are doing with Steph Curry and Andre Iguodala, but to a way lesser degree. As for the Magic comparisons I'm just not gonna comment on that since your comparing the greatest PG of all time to a guy that has questions about being a pg in the NBA.
Im not trying to say Kyle Anderson IS Magic, Im saying that if Magic Johnson could successfully man the point guard position without fitting the stereotype of what a point guard LOOKS like why cant Kyle Anderson do the same; even if it isnt at a Hall of Fame level.
I actually think if the draft blogs and scouts looked at Kyle as solely a PG, he'd feel less pressure to show that he has small-forward qualities, and would fully display his high level passing ability even more. Im sure he see's what scouts think about his game, and it effects how he approaches the game. His freshman year he played like a totally different player, because no one believed he'd be able to do the same things as the D1 level, sophomore year they let him run the 1 and he's playing like a he did in High School.
Im jus saying, why cant he start at point guard on a team with hopes of winning, he has shown that he can do what any other point guard in the country can do as far as setting up teammates, at his rebounds at double any other PG's rate per game. I'll take his versatility over more high-touted points like Semaj Christon, Olivier Hanlan, Vasilje Micic, and Jordan Clarkson (all mocked as 1st rounders in 2014).
I think that could be one of the issues with Kyle playing PG. Clarkson is quicker, more athletic and much better at creating his own offense, which I believe is a good sign of him being able to possibly do so at the next level. I know one match-up is obviously not the end all, be all (check the Sweet 16 match-up between Texas/LSU in 2006), just really believe Clarkson has more of the ability one sees in successful PG's at the next level.
Plus, Clarkson has the ability to make a possible shift to the 2 as well if he is not deemed a straight up PG. Versatility as a whole is one thing, but at the next level it comes down to whether you score, create and defend as a PG. Other things may sweeten the deal, however I think Clarkson has shown more skills to translate at the 1 in the NBA than Kyle has.
I actually like Kyle Anderson more than most, but he is not orchestrating showtime. Magic was not known as a high flying jumper, however he was definitely a guy who would push the hell out of the rock and run the floor. Magic was much quicker than Kyle, for sure. Plus, Magic at least gave the Lakers the ability to pair him with a smaller 2 guard who could maybe have more of a chance to guard quicker point guards.
Kyle is just not that. Say what you will about Magic as a shooter, he was definitely a more reliable offensive threat than Kyle from about everywhere on the floor when it came to himself. Plus, his court vision and creativity, well, there is a reason he is still the NBA's All-Time assist leader for his career. For as well as he played in college, Magic was even better once he got to the NBA. Yes, he was playing with the league MVP, just remember he won Finals MVP as a rookie!
The athleticism at the point guard position now is absurd. Teams are killing with speed and while size still can play a major advantage, I have a hard time believing that Anderson would be able to take advantage of the leagues faster PG's. Not to mention, from a standpoint of athleticism, he will have a hard enough time staying in front of most wing players as well. I still feel he will have a difficult time getting his shot off and while he has passing ability, I do not seeing him having even close to what Magic did as far as that is concerned.
The "Slo-Mo" tag is kind of unfortunate, because he actually is quite adept at changing speeds, however he is not really splitting doubles or running the break. He brings size that would match most PF's, however it is still difficult to see him even defending that position. It seemed obvious that he would have to switch his position once he gets to the NBA for defensive purposes and because it is hard to see him running a productive NBA offense. Comparing him to Magic just seems to have very little merit, because Magic was a guy who could really adapt to any position on the floor and not be seen as a major liability on defense.
Anderson is a guy who brings some versatility and size, I just feel teams have trouble seeing him creating his own offense at the next level, which will probably limit his playmaking ability. Plus, defensively, it is hard not to see him as a liability at the next level. To me, even as someone who likes Anderson's versatility and see him as a possible first round pick, I see him having to play forward as he would be too easy to exploit at the PG on both ends of the floor. Have a hard time believing that Kyle can run point on a winning team at the next level. For as inconsistent as Magic was offensively, think he was much more adept at creating offense for himself and others than Anderson, while you never were incredibly concerned with him as a defender. Can't say the same about Anderson, which is why I think it is difficult to picture him being close to Magic as a NBA prospect.
I think someone will take a gamble on him in the later part of the draft, and potentially try to reinvent the game around him. Potentially, you could have him bring the ball in, be the dominant ball handler, and just have 2 guards who could guard the point and SG respectively. He could probably fit well in somewhere like Phoenix which essentially has two combo guards, as opposed to one dominant point guard.
If he can't defend guards then he can't be a point GUARD. Doesn't mean he can't play on the ball. That's still a possibility. That's basically what "point" refers to, but if he cannot defend guards (and I think the consensus is that he can't) then he is not a guard.
Also, if Magic played in this era, he'd be considered a point forward too since they hid him on defense away from most PGs, often putting him on Fs and even some Cs. People don't like hearing that though since Magic is considered the greatest PG of all time.
truth. Kyle will always be best utilized with the ball since his strength is passing and picking apart defenses. But he will have to defend sf's. And Magic would never be able to guard gaurds today. I watched him when he came back from retirement in '96 and he could barely keep up with pf's and was routinely getting beat off the dribble by guys like joe smith. No way in hell he would have been able to guard pg's.
Borris Diaw when he was on the suns at best.
He disrespected Magic Johnson only thing they have in common is there both 6'9 and can handle the ball thats where it starts and ends
maybe a comparsion to Boris Diaw would be a better comparsion