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Kobes Take on Lebrons "Decision"

i was watching espn today and it showed when derek fisher was standing in for jim rome tv show rome is Burning. And fisher was interviewing bryant and asked him how he felt about lebrons decision. Kobe said "Lebron and i are different people. This generation is different now. Trends are differrent now. I personally wouldnt have left and joined somebody else. Not thats its a slight against lebron because its not. im jus saying i wouldnt have left." Kobe also went on to say that he thinks the lakers are the team to beat still in the nba despite popular opinion that people think the heat are. From this interview what i personally took away from it is that kobe prob feels like barkley, jordan, bird and other oldheads in the nba that the best player gets it done on his own team. Now ima go off on my own here and say that i personallly think that when kobe says he and lebron are different players he left that for people to from their own opinions for wat he meant. and my opinion is that they are different in the sense that kobe wants to be the best player in the league and lebron simply wants to play with the best. Its just another thing for us basketball fans to think about..........

(sorry i couldnt post the interview i dont know how. But im sure itll be on youtube sometime soon. maybe somebody can post it on here.)


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So I'm guessing Kobe wants us

So I'm guessing Kobe wants us to forget 2005 when he had 5 teams ( Both LA franchises, NY, PHX and Chicago) pretty much going all out for him until LA offered another season AND a no trade clause?

So Kobe wants us to forget how he wanted a trade in 2008. How he almost became a Bull until LA wanted Deng back and then got a 7-0 pacifier in Pau Gasol?

Kobe, your a legend at this point for me but shut up. You done some F-up thIngs in the past too.

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MR. Knick, what the hell else

MR. Knick, what the hell else could he have said? He never mentioned anything about him leaving cleveland, nor how he did it. His only comment was about how he wouldn't have wanted to join ANOTHER player. We all know kobe's not a great guy, nor is has he been loyal, but to bring up those points when he's simply saying he would'nt have teamed up with someone else, is just hate. None of those teams had anything close to Wade's talent level, Kobe would've been number one in all those spots, undoubtedly. And then your calling Pau a pacifier? WTF, that was laker management pulling off a lopsided trade, something thats been happening by powerhouse for years. They get players, while lesser teams are left in the dust. Sound familiar? Get used to it, and stop hating, he had to answer that question, and he did it truthfully without being an &$#%#&@!.

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You left out the part where

You left out the part where he said he was too stubborn to do it. Stubborness can got both ways because to some it is a good thing to other it is bad. It depends on the situation.

They also spoke how people will say this stuff based on what he said. Kobe knows Lebron enough to probably already knew he was leaving and what the deal was

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Kobe

The thing about Kobe, even though he was wanting a trade, he still wouldn't have been joining forces with another superstar. Any of the teams he had went to, he would have been the unquestioned man. He would have been joining someone that hadn't already won a championship as the man as well. He would have had better teammates though. I think for a lot of the guys it is more of an issue of the guy still being in his prime and joining other all stars in their prime to win a championship. Don't get me wrong, it was Lebron's decision to make. He wants to play on a team with 2 of his best friends and from everything I heard, he is close to Z. He's playing in a fun city, with nice weather and no state income taxes. I just think when it comes down to it, it's about mentality. Some guys are pure assassins...Jordan, Kobe, Bird, etc. They are going to do what it takes to make it. They believe they are going to do it by themselves if they have to, though no one can win by themselves sometimes a guy has the ability to will his team through for the win. Lebron has superstar ability with a role player mentality. He's going to go to Miami and at least for the next couple of years be Wade's right hand man. In the process he is going to win a lot of games and make tons of money.

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It doesn't mean that if you threaten that you mean it.

Kobe never wanted to leave, he knew they weren't gonna let him go so he just played hardball with the Lakers organisation to get what he wanted.

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"Lebron has superstar ability

"Lebron has superstar ability with a role player mentality." How could anyone not agree with that statement

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The thing about Kobe, even

The thing about Kobe, even though he was wanting a trade, he still wouldn't have been joining forces with another superstar

The reason Kobe isin't a Bull today is because he wanted to play with Luol Deng who at the time was a budding superstar.

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HAHA Luol Deng was a budding

HAHA Luol Deng was a budding all-star, even at the peak of his potential. IF he had reached peoples expectations he would've been about a 22 and 8 guy, maybe. Not a 28 and 8 guy like wade. Don't even go there man.

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Deng was still a young talent

Deng was still a young talent who Kobe wanted to play with. I remember for a fact. The deal was like Gordon, Hinrich, Nocioni, 2 1st rounders and cash for like Kobe and exp contract.

The Lakers wanted Deng in the deal instead of Nocioni. The Bulls said alright but Kobe didn't wanna play without Deng. He stated it would be going into the same thing he already had with LA.

Say what you want about Deng, Kobe wanted to play with him. Plus, he was coming off a great season ( 18ppg, 7rpg, 2apg and 1spg ) at 22 years old.

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OK, but you said he was a

OK, but you said he was a budding superstar, and the whole point of my argument is that kobe would've been the #1 no matter what, deng no way could've challenged kobe for leader role on that team. Its like if Lebron went to the NY, he's the number one and he doesn''t get half the hate he does now. Alright? thats the argument, don't change it 2 posts later.

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Alright but when did I say

Alright but when did I say Deng would have challenged Kobe for the #1 position on the team? Kobe would be the #1 and Deng would be the #2. I think anyone with a brain would know this.

Noone is changing the arguement. Posting 18-7 at 22 could be a potential superstar for me. He also plays good defense so why couldn't you argue from age 23 to 29 that Deng could be a 23-8 guy who plays good defense back then?

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Yeah, I don't think Kobe was

Yeah, I don't think Kobe was conspiring with other superstars. Luol Deng was a good player, but it wasn't like Luol was proven or a superstar like D Wade. I'd take a 22 year old Bosh over a 22 year old Deng. Wing players are a dime a dozen in the NBA.. Kobe couldn't get along with Shaq, who was the most dominate player early in the decade, so why would he choose to play with someone else who was even close to his level?

In context, Kobe's situation was much different than LeBron's situation.

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How am I hating on Kobe? ( I

How am I hating on Kobe? ( I just read your whole post DWatt)

I'm cool with Kobe saying whatever he wants just don't act like you NEVER did anything bad.

He wasn't acting like a Dick demaining a trade, said no I didn't then coming back and doing it again?

He did do the same thing that LBJ did to Cleveland only he went back to LA. (FA wise) He had meetings with the Suns, Clippers, Lakers, Knicks and Bulls separately and such. I don't think you remember.

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Yes, but the whole point is

Yes, but the whole point is you can't compare what Kobe wanted to what Lebron got. Kobe wanted to play with deng, i don't disagree with that, BUT, deng is not the talent that Wade is. Wade is someone that many people are saying is the #1 on this team, while deng is unqestionably the #2 behind kobe if that happened. I'm just saying its pretty cheap to call out kobe for this because of what he did, because no matter where he demanded a trade, he would've been the top guy. In the interview, kobe was saying that he would never go to a place in order to join somebody equal or better than him.

He never blamed lebron for just leaving, he blamed him for going somewhere where he's not the clear cut #1 guy. Thats the argument i'm trying to say. I dont care about lebron leaving either. It's the fact that he left for somewhere where he wont be the top guy.

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Noone said Deng was a

Noone said Deng was a superstar. I said he was believed to be a budding superstar at the time.

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How is Lebron, being a top 2

How is Lebron, being a top 2 player in the league, all of a sudden going to be a #2 option to Wade when he's the better player I never understood that

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Well, LeBron is a different

Well, LeBron is a different player. I think he's still the top guy. Wade is the scorer and the media #1. LBJ is the guy. There's a reason why Wade and Bosh joined the team the same day and James did it by himself for a hour.

I'm not calling Kobe out at all. I'm saying remember, let's not act as if Kobe didn't say anything or do anything similar to this. That's all I'm saying.

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How is Lebron, being a top 2

How is Lebron, being a top 2 player in the league, all of a sudden going to be a #2 option to Wade when he's the better player I never understood that

THANK YOU.

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'I'm cool with Kobe saying

'I'm cool with Kobe saying whatever he wants just don't act like you NEVER did anything bad.

He wasn't acting like a Dick demaining a trade, said no I didn't then coming back and doing it again?'

Once again, i know kobe was being a dick, i recognize that But what he's talking about in the interview is only the fact that lebron isn't going to be the top man, he said 'someone else' i know, but i'm pretty sure he meant just someone near their talent level. Now, if kobe wanted to go to denver with melo, or miami with wade, then yeah, i would be pissed at kobe for saying these things, but he didnt'. He wanted to win and be the top guy while doing it. Thats what he's critisizing lebron for.

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Oh, and i said 'clear cut # 1

Oh, and i said 'clear cut # 1 guy", maybe he is maybe he's not. Thats an entirely diffenrent argument, however, there is room for an argument there. You couldn't propose an argument for anywhere kobe would've gone. If its even feasible that your not the top guy, then don't do it, especially if your the one thats doing the moving.

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Kobe wasnt criticizing lebron he was just saying what he would do in the same situation but truthfully I think he has no idea what he would've done, kobe won his 1st ring by his fourth year, Lebron was in his 7th not winning any and not having the talent around him to win another ring if chris bosh would have agreed to go to cleveland I dont think lebron would have ever left

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Mr. Knick, if kobe had said

Mr. Knick, if kobe had said that he never would've left LA, or that Lebron abandoned cleveland, or something along those lines, then yeah, bringing up those poitns would've been valid; however, he did not. His only critique of lebron was teaming up with wade. Thats it. Nothing more. So, don't bring up points from 4 years ago when they don't apply.

andxx, i agree with you that kobe doesn't know, but NO ONE DOES, yet everyone is still making assumptions about what they would've done. You cant blame kobe for making that statement when so many people have already said similar things.

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I think this bears repeating

Lebron IS going to be the top man. No matter where he goes. Lebron will not play second fiddle to anyone in the league. Even if he were to go to LA, he would be the number one option, except for in the last 2 min of the game where Kobe is king. Lebron was better than Wade before and he still is better than Wade, no matter who was there first. I'm pretty sure Dwade knew that when recruiting Lebron to Miami.

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yo mr.knick

mr.knick first of all why are we comparing kobe's situation to lebron's it was totally different and how did he act like he never did anything bad?

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