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Kobe Bryant on the decline?

I've been watching Kobe's games this year, and it seems like his game is not as strong as it was the past few years. In my opinion he is starting to decline at this point in his career.

What makes me wonder is if him putting all his injuries aside and not getting them treated will shorten the length of his career, or are making an impact on his decline.

What do you guys think?


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i think its too early to

i think its too early to tell... i dont think we'll be able to see until the playoffs are under way... my gut tells me he'still kobe until proven otherwise

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I wont say hes on the decline

I wont say hes on the decline YET......you can say he lost alot of his explosiveness.

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i, being a huge kobe fan,

i, being a huge kobe fan, have been defending kobe non stop this year saying he is still great and doing his thing. But then they played an old game from 2002 on tv the other day and kobe looked like a totally different player. He is smarter now, but back in 2000 , he was beating guys off the dribble like they didnt even exist.

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Kobe used nothing but

Kobe used nothing but athleticism early in his career. But now that his athleticism is on a decline, he uses more of a Brandon Roy approach to the game.. Using his HIGH IQ in order to pick his spots on the floor. He's still the deadliest player in the league so he's not on the decline.. His athleticism is, but not Kobe himself. He's finding other ways to change his game to succeed.

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kobe wont go two weeks

kobe wont go two weeks beating teams up. BUt on any given day, ill take kobe over anyone in the game hands down

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THe Phil Factor?

I don't think he has declined, rather think a lot of it is to do with Phil Jackson. Phil helped MJ continue to dominate after to turned 30... MJ became a jumpshooter while maintaining his mantle as the best player in the game, Kobe has become a post player, finding turnaround J's at will the last few years.

Phil Jackson teams also have a history of coasting through the regular season only to turn it on once the playoffs start. One of Shaq's last seasons with the Lakers, they coasted the regular season only to blitz the playoffs and take out the title. Not making any predictions but this could well be the same tactic happening this season.

Interesting Kobe's mpg numbers are down by 5 per game this season. That won't be the case come playoff time.

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I won't say he's on the

I won't say he's on the decline yet, but is game is certainly different then it was earlier in his career. He's lost quite a bit of explosiveness, so he can't be people off the dribble like he used to and he mainly post up now. It also seems like his handle has gotten worse. He's always getting picked at and losing the ball now. Maybe his lost explosiveness has something to do with that. But he's gotten smarter and is less selfish. And he's still 4th in the league in scoring, and I think he will dominate once the playoffs come around. I would still pick him over any other player in the league.

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People are still expecting

People are still expecting windmills and poster dunks from kobe he dont do that anymore he beats people with his basketball skill rather than his athleticism he still is scoring well this year you can say kobe lost his explosiveness but he dont need anymore kobe can beat you by himself one game without making one dunk kobe still is the most clutch in the leage and I guarentee if any of you guys needed someone to take a game winning shot you would pick kobe

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"I've been watching Kobe's

"I've been watching Kobe's games this year, and it seems like his game is not as strong as it was the past few years. In my opinion he is starting to decline at this point in his career.

What makes me wonder is if him putting all his injuries aside and not getting them treated will shorten the length of his career, or are making an impact on his decline.

What do you guys think?"

Jordan technically started to decline in '93, but he was still basically the best in the game through '98. Yeah, Kobe is on the decline and really has been the past two years, but it doesn't mean he still isn't elite. He has played in three straight finals, and you have to go back to Magic and Bird for the last time teams were consistently playing that deep for that many years in a row. Plus, he played in the 2008 Olympics and 2007 qualifying. It is a lot of basketball. The regular season is more of a chore for him now, and the fact that he won't take a minutes decline (other than in the case of blowouts) is likely to eventually catch up to him. The big injury is going to come. I don't think it is now. He works too hard to fall off a cliff. He has learned how to adapt and will continue to do so, but he is eventually going to need to have the organization tell him to take some time off.

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i dont think we should look

i dont think we should look at his scoring average too much anymore... and yes he has lost explosiveness

but hes still imo the best player in basketball, and last yr he showed that in the playoffs, and i think he will show it again this yr

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Kobe is still an elite player

Kobe is still an elite player and a top 3 player, but the reason I have Dwade and Lebron ahead of him is because he can't take over a game quite like he used to he is still a clutch player and great scorer, but I feel those players have surpassed or at least have gotten close to his level of play

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Kobe is on the decline from

Kobe is on the decline from what I see.

The thing is, he's getting smarter but if you watch...alot of his little things don't work. The pump fake really doesn't work anymore, smart defenders know where to lead him on the floor and I disagree he can still take over any game he wants. He lost the legs and that's what caused him to take a slight decline. It's not unfair to say that if you get a really good defender on him and left him there that Kobe would overcome him.

Even with all that, he's still a very scary player.

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Kobe is chillin' and so are

Kobe is chillin' and so are the Lakers holla back come playoff time.

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Well, the man was drafted in

Well, the man was drafted in 1996... It's his 15th season and he's played A LOT of minutes and games. He was eventually going to start declining... Nobody can run from Father Time. Still though... Even at his age and the amount of mins, etc he's played, he's still a slightly above average athlete. That's saying something.

He's still an elite player who's smart and the most skilled in the league. That along with the way he takes care of his body... He should be able to stay an elite player until he retires. He'll never allow it, but eventually he's going to have to rest his body if he wants to extend his career.

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Dang, it's crazy that someone

Dang, it's crazy that someone could dominate so long...

15th Year? I still look at Kobe like it's late 20's (27-29).
That's crazy...

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I never knew dropping 25 pts

I never knew dropping 25 pts 5rbg and 4apg is a decline. Come on this guy is still the same guy. Lets put in the fact that he playing the fewest minutes since his sophmore season (33 mins)

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You're in denial. He's still

You're in denial. He's still great, but no longer the same player he used to be.

He's still a good athlete, but doesn't jump as high as he used to. He doesn't have that explosiveness to get past defenders consistently like he used to. IF you watch him closely, he's either playing close to the basket or shooting jumpshots. He no longer has the quickness, athleticism and explosiveness to beat his man consistently off of the dribble and finish. He's starting to miss a lot of shots that he used to be able to make easily.

Like I said... He's still a good athlete, but he's playing mostly off of skill, IQ, etc right now. He's aging gracefully though.

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depends on what decline

Athleticism--Declining

Ability to take over at any time he feels like---Still the same

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ya, ya, ya just like last

ya, ya, ya just like last year he was on the decline and the haters came out and colin cowherd was saying its the endof an era and poof he tore it up in the playoffs. keep in mind he missed most of his offseason rehabing from knee surgery

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I don't understand why this

I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept, he is absolutely on the decline. But that doesn't mean he still isn't an elite player, or one of the very best in the league.

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When people say decline...mad

When people say decline...mad people get butt hurt over it.

Watch the games, he's lost a step on offense and defense and he's still doing well. Lakers fans be acting crazy some times.

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I think this puts in

I think this puts in perspective how strong michael jordan was when he was in his late 30s

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There is not a single player

There is not a single player who will play 15 seasons and not start to decline at least a little bit.... lol

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Kobe Still got It

I'm not really a Kobe fan, but he is good. He has lost anything and may even be better. In the years he was dunking all the time blowing past people he was effiective as he is now. He scores more now then when he was in his early to mid 20's. About 5 to 8 points more. He is playing less minutes and is guard one of if not the opponets best offensive players.

I really to see a difference in his production in any way, just a decline in his Highlights. And you have to remember a Phi Jack coached team coast all season long until crunch time. Plus this team is deep and interchangable at every position on the floor. So ya manz Kobe dont have to work harder.

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And you have to remember a

And you have to remember a Phi Jack coached team coast all season long until crunch time.

That's incorrect...Phil's teams don't coast. They were the greatest teams so they always had the most talent, even when they were declining slightly.

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