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Knicks interested in Kenneth Faried

www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/faried_grabbing_knicks_attention_5zYfvvv6V9jKwsz5PO0KzK

I really hope the Knicks draft him if he is available at 17. He can play center for the Knicks although he is only 6' 8''. Chuck Hayes plays center for the Rockets and he is only 6' 6'' and he does a pretty good job. With his motor he can make up for his lack of hight and with some experience I think he can be a pretty good center in the league. All he would need to do on the Knicks is get rebounds, offensive rebounds and put backs. He might also be able to block some shots and get steals. He averaged 2 blocks and 2 steals a game at Morehead. He was playing against bad competition though, so that probably padded his numbers a little.


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competition

But you have to look at the games Faried played against NCAA tournament level teams with NBA level players. He had 20 and 18 with 2 blocks and 2 steals against Florida, 15 points 12 rbs 5 stls 2 blocks against Sullinger and Ohio State, and double doubles in both NCAA tournament games including 17 rebs against #4 seed Lousiville where he played a huge role in leading an Ohio Valley team to the 2nd round.

He may have played for a small school, but he had no trouble at all playing well against better competition. I think he's a legit pro prospect and I wouldn't consider where he played a knock when evaluating him. He's played good teams in non conference every year for all 4 years and he's always stepped up.

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He kind of reminds me of

He kind of reminds me of Renaldo Balkman, and its beyond just the big frame and dreads. He's a hustler, blue collar player, and strong defender. I could see him being similar to Balkman but even a bit better defensively and as a rebounder. He'll be a guy who makes a ton of plays that don't necessarily reflect in the stats columns, but he should be able to get his fair share of boards, blocks, steals, and dunks as well.

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very true

Very true about the Ohio State and Florida games but obviously you know that the NBA is different then those teams. I hope he can be consistent against top level competition every night. I wonder if he played the Ohio States and Floridas of the world every night he would still average those numbers.

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Well, I think if he played in

Well, I think if he played in the Big 10, 12, or ACC he wouldn't have quite as high of numbers, but he's still be a double double player. I honestly don't think his rebounding, steals or shot blocking would be much lower, but I don't think he'd be an 17 point scorer on a team with more talent, he'd probably be closer to 12 or 13, but his rebounding and defense is getting him drafted, not his point average.

@M-DYMES, it's hard not to look at Faried and not think Balkman because they do look alike and were hustle players, but I think Faried will be a better pro because his rebounding is far superior. Balkman did the dirty work, and was an above average rebounder, but that is one area I think Faried is much better at and will help him have a bigger impact at the next level.

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I think he will be like

I think he will be like Udonis Haslem but the only thing about that is Haslem is a good rebounder not great so i like comparing him to Kenny Thomas more. Also off topic but just saw this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42928874/ns/world_news-death_of_bin_laden/?G...

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MDYMES come on man

that is just disrespectful to Faried. Balkman can't rebound or play D like him and Renaldo can play the wing, you're not going to see Faried out there. I don't think there is really any solid comparison, i guess I see a lot of Ben Wallace in him but Faried has nowhere near the strength of Ben but he does possess more athleticism. I have a feeling the Knicks will be stupid and take a wing or Jimmer if he's there, but they HAVE to take Faried. JARED JEFFRIES was your starting C most of the time after the All Star break. smgdh

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"I could see him being

"I could see him being similar to Balkman but even a bit better defensively and as a rebounder."

Guys I am saying he will exceed Balkman. He is a better defender and rebounder, probably quicker as well. I said exactly what you guys are arguing. I should have said more than a bit though, but the argument was made.

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Faried as an NCAA senior has

Faried as an NCAA senior has good experience so could step into rotation fairly quickly perhaps before Jerome Jordan who the Knicks plan to bring over this summer. He is a logical guy for them to seriously consider but I still think they may look for a MLE C via free agency and maybe draft Jimmer or a swingman to play around Melo and Fields.

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ok MDYMES, u redeemed

ok MDYMES, u redeemed urself....be more careful my friend hahaha....that comparison tho is just like how everyone on here compares white guys to other white guys hahaha

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I think Knicks need to feel

I think Knicks need to feel definitely needs to their starting core and not add pieces that like without that in mind. Faried is good but does not really help them as a starter. If he 6'10" I could see it or even had a wide enough body but right now, he is a good player that would be better served on another team.

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I see im being somewhere in

I see im being somewhere in between Denis Rodman & ronaldo Balkman. Very Good defender & rebounder can blk,stl & a hustler. I see him being a 10pt,10reb,2blk,1.5stls, which would be a very productive nba player.

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The Knicks have starters at 1

The Knicks have starters at 1 to 4 in place for next season so a genuine C is their need but will Mike D'Antoni actually use one as minus Shaq's time at Phoenix he used players like Diop, Kurt Thomas at C and more recently the Knicks have played C by committee almost.

There are stories at Phoenix that Steve Kerr wanted to bring in Coach Thib as a defensive specialist but Coach D'Antoni didn't want it and now the Knicks are looking to add a defensive specialist to the Knicks coaching staff.

As regards drafting I think the Knicks need an NBA ready guy regardless of position, they may buy into the draft and maybe take a prospect but with the mid first rounder I can see Donnie Walsh taking a guy who can see minutes now or even drafting and then trading for an established player.

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I don't see New York drafting

I don't see New York drafting him. I think he's too much of a risk, I think New York will want someone who can defend a bit, but also score the basketball. Chad Ford has on of the Morris twins there at 17 for us, and I agree. I think Markiff could help us as that backup big man for Stoudemire. I think we add Morris, Dalembert and maybe a cheap big man like Louis Amundson, or Dan Gadzuric, the Knicks will be alright.

I also read somewhere the Knicks were interested in Michael Redd too.

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I think Chris Singleton would

I think Chris Singleton would be a better fit for us. A versitile defender who could guard 3s and 4s, and maybe even some 2's with a lil more work. With his improved 3 point range, he'll be a nice floor spacer in Dantoni's system, and will obviously continue working on his consistency. He's ready to step in right away and contribute next year. There are no bigs that will help us in this draft. We need to find one via free agency or trade, Faried is undersized for a 4, and is basically a shorter Turiaf like player. We need a C, I hated to give up Mozgov, cause he really was a good looking prospect, but hey, we had to do what we had to do.

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NO NO NO to Singleton. We

NO NO NO to Singleton. We need frontcourt toughness. We can get a backup SF in FA.

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Repost: I think Knicks need

Repost: I think Knicks need to fill definite needs to their starting core and not add pieces that they like without considering that. Faried is good but is not what they need as a starter. If he was 6'10" I could see it or if he even had a wide enough body but right now, he is a good player that would be better served on another team.

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knicks need to move up in the

knicks need to move up in the draft to get markieff morris...and faried being a risk? no injury history, hes a willing banger, how the hell is he a risk? you know what ur gonna get with him

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I hope Faried goes to a team

I hope Faried goes to a team that will give him playing time right away...you see too many players like Faried that have a ton of talent and end up being a benchwarmer and never really having a chance.

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and faried being a risk? no

and faried being a risk? no injury history, hes a willing banger, how the hell is he a risk? you know what ur gonna get with him

No you don't. Go back and time and we can find every year a safe pick that fails in the draft. I think Faried could be a good player, but he could also be Reggie Evans, or Shelden Williams. We don't know.

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I see him as a Udonis Haslem.

I see him as a Udonis Haslem. Could be a 10-10 guy if given minutes.

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The knicks should take

The knicks should take faried. They need a hustler rebounnder to go beside stoudemire. Chris Singleton Biyombo or Tyler Honeycutt would be good fits for new york as well.

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This is likely a fall back

This is likely a fall back pick or a throw off pick. If noone falls to New york that is a projected lotto pick like a Morris twin, Leonard, Jones, Fredette, Thompson then I could see them taking Faried. As for the throw off suggestion Knicks do it all the time, they did it last year with Zoubek stole Fields and Zoubek went undrafted.

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But your not throwing a

But your not throwing a undersize guy next to Stoudemire, Morris would go to the bench. The Knicks wouldn't start Faried next to Stoudemire, he's 6-8/6-9. We need a bigger guy, thus the Knicks will go get Dalembert and whatever big they draft is a bench big

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DeJuan Blair starts besides

DeJuan Blair starts besides Tim Duncan. Height to me is not an issue with Faried b/c he does everything that Blair does on the rebounding and defensive side of the ball, and personally the Knicks have enough offense where I don't think they need to worry about him producing. He will be mostly a guy scoring on putbacks and alleyoops. His mentality on rebounding is what you want in EVERY FRONT COURT PLAYER. He's a winner, a hard worker, fearless, and has more heart than everyone in the draft class. Donnie draft Faried, and you won't be disappointed. Also, D'antoni needs defensive guys that can run.

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DeJuan Blair starts besides

DeJuan Blair starts besides Tim Duncan.

- Duncan is 6-11/7-0 with some defensive skills. Amare Stoudemir'e is 6-9 with a history of knee injuries who cannot play defense. You can go undersized with Duncan, not Stoudemire.

Also, D'antoni needs defensive guys that can run.

- Don't know if you know....D'Antoni doesn't care about defense.

If the Knicks were smart, they would have kept Anthony Randolph and Corey Brewer. That's just me.

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I have known for a while he

I have known for a while he doesn't care, but if he wants to keep his job in NY he'll have to start caring. Also, I was not a fan of them getting rid of Brewer. Anthony Randolph I could care less about, his potential means nothing because he hasn't worked hard enough to get true playing time. If he practiced harder I am sure D'antoni would have given him opportunities to play.

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When the team is rumored to

When the team is rumored to FORCING you to hire a defensive assistant...doesn't sound like he sudden cares about defense.

As for Randolph, he practiced hard, just didn't play much offense, thus why he didn't play. It didn't help he didn't wanna make mistakes and played tight, but that's more because D'Antoni pulled him if he messed up.

As for Brewer, a defensive wing for 15-20 a night? If were talking adding defense, he would have been perfect.

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What is wrong with some of

What is wrong with some of you guys?

The Knicks most glaring weakness is REBOUNDING! If we have the chance to draft one of the best rebounders of the past decade we better take him.

Whoever is saying that Faried is too short is living in a fantasy land or hasnt paid much attention to the NBA lately. The time of 7-foot centers is gone. Serviceable big men with ideal size are very few and far between.

Guys like Brandon Bass and Chuck Hayes are banging in the paint and doing work. They are exactly the kind of players that kill the Knicks. Look what Hansbrough did to us. No one thought he could even make a rotation before he was drafted.

I would take tenacity and good hands over a 7-foot stiff any day.

ALSO, stop getting caught up in the C/PF aspect of this pick. Faried will end up defending the better opposing big man whether he is a center or power forward and Amare will always take the tipoff. Amare is realistically the center of the knicks.

Faried is the absolute perfect man for the Knicks. He will score 12 points per game from garbage baskets around the rim from rebounds or dishes from a doubled driving Amare or Melo. I am also confident he can add double figures in rebounding and a block per game.

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The Knicks most glaring

The Knicks most glaring weakness is REBOUNDING!

- Disagree it's defense and depth.

Whoever is saying that Faried is too short is living in a fantasy land or hasnt paid much attention to the NBA lately. The time of 7-foot centers is gone

- Name me the last team to win a title without a decent center/player over 6-11?

Guys like Brandon Bass and Chuck Hayes are banging in the paint and doing work. They are exactly the kind of players that kill the Knicks. Look what Hansbrough did to us.

- But niether are good starters. Hayes only starts due to Yao missing, and Bass lost PT to Ryan Anderson. As for Hansbrough, he's also a good mid range guy and Stoudemire doesn't play defense.

ALSO, stop getting caught up in the C/PF aspect of this pick.

- Why? The Knicks need a center. Good teams have centers. We don't need a undersized big man, we need a center.

Faried is the absolute perfect man for the Knicks. He will score 12 points per game from garbage baskets around the rim

- Name me a player who averages 12 points just off garbage baskets.

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"ok MDYMES, u redeemed

"ok MDYMES, u redeemed urself"

Lol there was nothing to redeem lol. I said it from the get go. People just dont read comments throught thoroughly at times. I am guilty of that as well. Thats why I made sure to clarify from the start that it was well beyond there similar appearances.

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To move up the draft would be

To move up the draft would be quite hard for the Knicks, they have no major trading assets unless they took on bad contracts and even for shelling out $3 million then they may only move up a few places. They could try to buy into the first round later on and try to package picks but GM's know this is a weak draft so would not find a 17th and 25th to 30th combo that attractive to trade up. Buy ins may be available in the draft for instance Chicago with the 30th pick might consider $3 miilion a good price as that would fund them a nice veteran FA for next year.

Buying in to move up then you might get interest perhaps from Phoenix as Sarver always likes to pocket the cash and dropping from 13th to 17th might not really harm Phoenix. Indiana might consider a deal but that is only two places and teams like Charlotte need to rebuild and would want to retain their top 10 pick surely.

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it's hard to predict Faried

it's hard to predict Faried succeed in the NBA, he is like a 6'8" Joakim Noah.

but i'm still say Tristan Thompson > Kenneth Faried, especially for the Knicks!!

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The Knicks are third worst in

The Knicks are third worst in rebounding diiferential only to Golden State and Phoenix.

The Knicks only got a combined 6.6 rebounds out of Jeffries and Turiaf who played center of power forward whichever you consider them.

Be realistic and realize that Stoudemire is the Center for the Knicks. Saying Amare is a PF is like Duncan still being considered a PF even after the Admiral retired.

There are no available reliable big men that the Knicks realistically can get. Dalembert? You never know what you're getting with him and he would command too much money. Same goes for Tyson Chandler.

Defense is definitely a problem for the Knicks but they lose too many close games because of rebounding. Stoudemire and Melo have to make the turn defensively and we have to surround them with hard nosed defensive minded players which Faried is.

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The ideal offseason for the

The ideal offseason for the Knicks would be to retain Shawn Williams, Derrick Brown and Bill Walker.

Sign Wilson Chandler to MLE. He wants to come back and gives the Knicks a solid all-around player who can play anywhere from the the 2 to 4 positions.

Draft Kenneth Faried in the first round. He is the kind of player who can step in and make an immediate contribution.

Try to get into late first or early second round to pick up Kyle Singler as a bench scorer who at least tries to play D even with limited physical gifts.

Adding a guy like Kurt Thomas could also help as a locker room leader as well as a role player who can still rebound and hit a mid range jumper.

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Thompson wont be there at the

Thompson wont be there at the Knicks pick,the Knicks might as well and hope Faried is like Rodman(90-91 version) since there is a chance Sammy,Chandler,Ghostface Billa all decide to not sign with the Knicks in the offseason.

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To be honest, I don't want

To be honest, I don't want NONE of those three back. If I had to pick one, give me back Derrick Brown. I want a defensive guy off the bench. I think the next guy we should look at is Tyshaun Prince. Prince provides leadership, defense and 3 point ability as a sixth man. After adding Brown and Prince, the 2/3 positions are set, lets look at frontcourt. I think we should go after Dalembert and Markieff Morris in the draft. Dalembert plays the center position, allowing Stoudemire to play his natural postion of power forward, while giving him defensive help. Markieef Morris provides shooting ability and toughness to dispell Stoudemire at times.

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Knicks

here is my plan:

Trade Landry Fields, Tony Douglas, Turiaf, and Bill Walker to the clippers for Deandre Jordan and Eric Gordon.

draft Tyler honeycutt (who i think is the same as Fields), or Kenneth Faried.

bring Jerome Jordan to the U.S.. I would get rid of , Rautins, Carter, Mason Jr., Shelden williams

sign T.J. Ford for 2 years.

Then sign chris paul in 2012. fill up the roster with 2nd rounders and free agent. Try to get avery bradley as a sleeper.

Jordan/Jordan

Staudamire/ Jeffries or Faried if available.

Anthony/Williams/Brown

Gordon/Honeycutt

Billups/T.J. Ford

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not in a million years

@ Tar86ek

Trade Landry Fields, Tony Douglas, Turiaf, and Bill Walker to the clippers for Deandre Jordan and Eric Gordon.

The Clippers would never do that trade.

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I'm in the Knicks, here's

I'm in the Knicks, here's what I want to do

  • Hire a defensive assistant
  • Toney Douglas and Landry Fields for O.J. Mayo
  • Draft Bismack Biyombo with the 16th pick
  • Purchase another 1st round pick or early second round pick and select Malcolm Lee
  • Sign Nazr Mohammed and Wilson Chandler

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BKKnicksfan, you have

BKKnicksfan, you have creative and great ideas to improve the knicks, the question is if they all accomplishable but i love all of yours suggestion!

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Thanks man

Thanks man

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"Toney Douglas and Landry

"Toney Douglas and Landry Fields for O.J. Mayo"

and Memphis would want a backup point guard they don't need and a guy who is at best the same as Sam Young and Tony Allen why exactly?

"Draft Bismack Biyombo with the 16th pick"

And you would expect that to go over differently with D'Antoni than the Jordan Hill pick because?

"Purchase another 1st round pick or early second round pick and select Malcolm Lee"

Because D'Antoni adores point guards who can't shoot or distribute?

"Sign Nazr Mohammed and Wilson Chandler"

Mohammed wouldn't want to run like that and Chandler is restricted.

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and Memphis would want a

and Memphis would want a backup point guard they don't need and a guy who is at best the same as Sam Young and Tony Allen why exactly?

- Memphis doesn't need a backup point guard? News to me. Vasquez played 9 mintues and suddenly, he got starter potnential. Also, Tony Allen is a FA after next season, same as Young. I dobut both are coming back.

And you would expect that to go over differently with D'Antoni than the Jordan Hill pick because?

- We were rebuilding then. Now? It's build around Amare and Carmelo. We need someone to flank Stoudemire in the paint.

"Purchase another 1st round pick or early second round pick and select Malcolm Lee"

- No, but he likes backups who can slash. In PHX, Barbosa was all around scorer who can slash to the basket. Like any combo guard, he will have to do a little of both.

Mohammed wouldn't want to run like that and Chandler is restricted.

- As a backup/every other night type, I think he'll be alright. I forget Chandler was, maybe someone like J.R. Smith, Grant Hill or maybe even a Chris Douglas Roberts, if we can overpay Milwaukee.

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Memphis spent a first round

Memphis spent a first round pick on Vasquez and thought enough of him early in the year to dump Acie Law to get him time, so whether you think he is good enough to be a backup point guard or not clearly Memphis does.

Players who cannot stay on the floor aren't going to flank anyone. Jordan Hill was exiled to the end of the bench because he was an unskilled offensive player who couldn't avoid fouling when he was supposedly on the side of the court where he specialized, sound like anyone? You can think it was rebuilding, but there is a real reason D'Antoni preferred Jared Jeffries.

Barbosa could shoot as well as slash, Lee cannot which makes him more like D.J. Strawberry in that sense.

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So dumping Acie Law is the

So dumping Acie Law is the true key to whether someone has faith in someone?

Jordan Hill didn't play because he wasn't a offensive player, we can even see his game log and notice that. Yes, he has some big foul games, but he barely got to play. BARELY.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hilljo01/gamelog/2010/

Malcolm Lee will be better then D.J. Strawberry. PLUS....shooting is something that can be fixed in the NBA.

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with all the respect to

with all the respect to Vasquez, it's a prioroty for Memphis to upgrade back up PG position, they need to find a player with absolute outside shot to fill that role off the banch, Toney Douglas will be perfect as he also a very good defender, add Landry Fields who bring all-around game at the wing and could be a replacement for Battier to save money in re-signing him, so i think it's a solid trade for Mayo!

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