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Knicks future

If the Nuggets accept the Knicks trade offer the Knicks will be left with a roster that will look like this:

5-Mozgov

4-Stoudemire

3-Melo

2-Fields

1-Billups

6-Douglas

7-Turiaf

8-Williams

9-Walker

That's a very solid lineup but a better path is possible.

Ideally, Melo would refuse the Nets offer, letting the Knicks regain power in the trade talks so they would not have to sacrifice so much.

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If the knicks are able to just sign Melo this offseason they would have some other good trade possibilities.

1.) The knicks could make the trade to minnesota for the first round pick and keep it for themselves. (anybody know what year the first rounder would be for?) The pick should be used to add an aggresive rebounder which is the Knicks glaring weakness.

2.) With the signing of Melo, re-signing Chandler seems unlikely so they could try to profit from the loss of Wilson through a sign and trade. He could be paired with Felton in a deal to the Hornets for CP3.

3.) The knicks should re-sign Shawne Williams this offseason. He adds solid 3-point shooting as well as a long defender and toughness.


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Draft prospects I like for

Draft prospects I like for the Knicks are:

Enes Kanter: he is projected to go in the lottery but bad knee reports may see him fall ala Dejuan Blair. He will help the Knicks tremedously with his good rebounding ability and strong presence in the paint. Solid fit next to Amare.

Iman Shumpert: a lost draft prospect but he has excellent size and athleticism for the 1-spot. Could turn out to be a lock down defender with his length and quickness. He is also an excellent rebounder for a guard. He has shown the ability to be a good distributor as well.

Jeremy Tyler: a wildcard who cannot be written off due to his potential and dominance shown in High school. He has many tools that could lead to a successful NBA career. He has a good offensive post game for his age as well as good ball handling for a bigman. He is also a good rebounder and could use the chip on his shoulder from his messy pro career thus far to drive him.

Kyle Singler: his ability to play in the NBA has been questioned but I think he has the tools to play in the league. He has a good offensive arsenal and can make shots under pressure. He is also an above average passer for his size/position. His Basketball IQ makes up for some of his defensive liabilities on the defensive end. Would be a good replacement for Gallo if he is traded.

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Good playoff team. at best

Good playoff team. at best second round but no further because the two best players on the team don't have much interest in defense.

I doubt Kanter drops after teams give him a physical.

And sorry but the Hornets are not trading CP3 and he is happy out there.

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If anything Blair will help

If anything Blair will help Kanters cause and keep him from slipping post Top 10. Kyle Singler would be a great fit for New York, Jeremy Tyler may sneak up draft boards to be an early 2nd round pick.

Kemba Walker could be an excellent fit in Dantonis system espeially with reports from scouts saying he is a true PG just Uconn doesnt have the peices around him to prove it.

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Walker on NY

Is not quite the best fit, although many people think he is. Why? Because of the same reasons many Knick fans are frustrated with Felton. Mainly, perimiter shooting. I think Kemba is a pretty good but not great shooter, and with Amare and potentially Melo, shooting will be at a premium.

The lineup with the currently proposed Melo trade is a nice lineup, but it lacks beef and that's critical in the playoffs. Also, as we all know, Melo nor Amare are very good defenders. I can't see them winning a playoff series with that lineup, because they will likely finish 5 or 6, and get Orlando or Chicago.

Chandler/Felton is not going to get Paul. Paul is the only thing keeping that team afloat, both on the court and in the box office. CP3 is unavailable outside of desperate/1000% necessary circumstances.

If I were the Knicks I would play as much hardball as possible with Denver, since we pretty much can figure out Melo isn't going to accept a deal to NJ, and outside of maybe Dallas, will other teams go all out for a rental player? But then again, the Knicks can't take the risk of him signing elsewhere. They will be giving up some good talent but it's definitely for the best of their team going forward.

If I were the Knicks I'd draft the Brazilian C Nogueira and get a banger in FA/trade for a banger.

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Guess you didn't hear about

Guess you didn't hear about the Nuggets insisting on Mozgoz in the deal.

http://basketball.realgm.com/.

Let Mello get traded to the Nets and the Knicks will have plenty of cap room and have some pieces in Gallo and others.

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Chandler/Felton and a 1st

Chandler/Felton and a 1st rounder might get it done.

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If I were the Hornets front office

There is absolutely NO WAY I would take that deal. Felton/Chandler for Paul is simply not going to happen. The first rounder would I guess be a future pick from another team, or potentially a 3-team deal situation. Paul is going to take a pretty hefty price and is really only available if 1000% necessary.

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Melo is...........

Most likely going to end up in NY, he has shown no indication he's going to NJ. NY is playing a bit of hardball but could even get rougher. They hold the cards, because NJ won't do the deal unless Melo signs the extension, and he won't. Carmelo then would be opened up for a rental situation from playoff teams, become a FA, or sign an extension with that team, also sign and trade situation to NY. NJ is willing to essentially make themselves mediocre just to get a premier name and to spend money, and look powerful, instead of building a team correctly. They are the biggest losers in all of this so far.

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Denver really shot themselves

Denver really shot themselves in the foot, not once but twice. Everytime they got a deal in place, they kept moving the goal post on the trade. The first deal fell through because suddenly they wanted more draft picks. They got that then they wanted someone to take Harrington's contract.

With that said, I think NJ is doing even worse, because they keep complying to these demands. Denver is in no way in the drivers seat because they HAVE to get rid of him, losing him outright would be the worst thing ever. With that said, I think that NJ, could have even lessened the deal about 2 months ago by two drfat picks. Even with that they still would have had the best package to offer denver.

Its obvious that NY is going to get him, Melo won't even bat an eyelash at NJ. And I, as a Knicks fan will be comfortable with any deal that doesn't include Landry Fields, who I think can be a remarkable player for years to come. He reminds me a lot of what John Starks meant to the Knicks way back when. He's all heart and hustle and he has an even better skill set than Starks did IMO.

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I LOVE this post personally.

I LOVE this post personally. These are the NYK fans I like to hear from. However, we're probably losing Mozzy in the deal now that Denver wants him. That, and New York can upgrade the 8-9 spots there. With the new CBA, contract numbers will be highly different so we might be able to get some good FA for lower the price.

The Knicks could start Ronny Turiaf and be alright. He gives us almost nothing offensively, but let him be the defensive big and rebounder we know he can be and it's alright. I like the idea of getting Tyler, but I feel Lucas Riva ( the 7 foot Brazilian) is almost a perfect fit. I think he can develop as a potential shot blocker and someone who can be a nice big next to Amar'e (who's game is slowly going towards that mid range shot in a couple seasons).

In free agency, I think the Knicks would need someone who can play solid defense. I think the upgrades at the 8-9 spots could be Sonny Weems and Josh McRoberts. Weems is a long, athletic defender. He doesn't offer much range but he can be that strong rebounding wing who can play dirty defense. McRoberts has shown me he can play. I think he could rebound well, he can run the court and I believe he can shoot the 3 ball better then we think

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Knick fans, if this trade did

Knick fans, if this trade did go down would you be opposed to not running as fast an offense? Melo isn't really known for his outside shot, and him and STAT on the block would be deadly to guard. Instead of running the Seven seconds or less offense, try slowing it down like the Suns did a few years ago so they might stand a better chance in the half court.

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Knick fans, if this trade did

Knick fans, if this trade did go down would you be opposed to not running as fast an offense? Melo isn't really known for his outside shot, and him and STAT on the block would be deadly to guard. Instead of running the Seven seconds or less offense, try slowing it down like the Suns did a few years ago so they might stand a better chance in the half court.

I would. Having Billups as the point guard means we slow it down a bit and he gives us a player with alot of playoff experience. If we add Melo and Billups, I think we can make the second round of the playoffs.

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The thing that I dont like

The thing that I dont like about Riva is that although he seems like an athletic big, he is very weak and will get pushed around in the paint. He may be a good shot blocker but the Knicks have vastly improved in that field and need help on the boards. I dont see Riva as a rebounding black hole which is what we need. The Knicks are already stocked with bigs who dont rebound very well.

I know that NOLA wouldnt take just take Felton and Chandler for Paul but they could be the centerpieces of a deal.

Does anybody know what year the Minnesota pick would be for?

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