[JRdaFilipinoParticipant]

What are they thinking? They are retards… Rautins is OK I GUESS, but to draft ANOTHER swingman.. a SF??? and some unheard of bum from stanford.. when guys like Stephenson, Varnado, Lawal, SO MANY OTHER PLAYERS BETTER THAN RAUTINS OR THAT STANFORD GUY.. still havent been picked… Knicks never fail to disappoint me.. we better get Lebron, Im tired of all their dumbass draft choices.. last year they picked Hill over Jennings.. then trade him? and now.. rautins and whats his name… i don even know! this is more of a pissed off post than anything.. but DAMNIT Knicks.. are you freakin kidding me?!?!

[kanyedabestParticipant]

LOL…. when pick 38 came up i thought for sure they were gonna call hometown “born ready” and they called rautins and i coulnt believe it!!! then they call some other cat and i was shocked!!!.. no one knew who tht was… all i can say is the knicks may be among one of the poorest run franchises in north american pro sports

[NYK2010Participant]

I would say they are 1 of the worst at drafting in pro sports definately.
Not sure you can say one of the worst run considering there run in the 90’s and now that their out of salary cap hell they should do some good thing.

[GoodbyeChandlerParticipant]

im not even mad that larry fields is a knick. what upsets me is that he wasn’t gonna get picked and if he was the team that was to do would’ve sold his right for the right price. picking him at 39, where we could’ve gotten better value is stupid and im hoping walsh retires soon.

[meisi4Participant]

THX just poseted a being pissed off thread myself!

this is just soooo feakin dumb! if you wanted wings, fine! but please go with the most talented ones right!? i mean Lance and Ebanks couldn’t be worse than what they did! i mean can you do worse than picking to guys in row who will sit next to the bench? at least you could have had guys with NBA talent doing that!!!

just f****** frustating!!!!!

[sheltwon3Participant]

I hear you, I have no idea what the Knicks are doing. I am upset too because my homie is a Knick’s fan but they seem to not even be trying. My Hornets and Lakers got really good picks though.

Hornets have been great in their last two drafts.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Laundry fields does not seem like a terrible player but Knicks needed to get a point guard or big man. They have Chandler so why pick this guy up. I think he will be a good player but still he could have been taken later on. Andy Rautins is a nice 3 point shooter but Knicks could have bought picks and got him later on.

[NYK2010Participant]

Rumor Knicks have traded or bought the the 44th pick Jerome Jordan he’s a big man that helps.
Walsh really needs to hire Pritchard bad since he is clueless I mean besides getting Gallo in the draft he’s underachieved. The Toney Douglas pick was good but nothing special last year and the Lakers wanted to give away the pick.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Gallo was influenced by Isiah Thomas scouting. As bad as he was as a Gm, I doubt he would have let all that talent slip by for two unknowns maybe one but not two.

[llperez]

see, it is bs like this that makes me represent the pac 10 and the west coast. Landry fields is an unheard of bum? LOL. I guess 22 points 9 rebounds and 3 assists with good defense is shit.ty. The real question is why on earht is landry fields unheard of? People need to open thier eyes and see whats right in front of them. The best player in the confernce that routinely produces the best NBA talent is not a bum and is only unheard of becuase you know sh.it about basketball.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Who said he was a bum but he is not better than Chandler who plays the small forward position and Knicks are trying to get Lebron. Also no one was really to to take him so Knicks could have gotten him later. He looks like he can play but I don’t see him being that much better than Chandler and not better than Lebron or Rudy Gay.

[piratejpParticipant]

I sincerely doubt Lebron will be coming to NY now – not that he likely ever was, but especially not now. Why the hell would he when he’d be surrounded by stiffs? I can’t imagine the few extra mil in endorsements (or whatever the draw supposedly is for him) is going to overshadow the fact that he’d be downgrading his supporting cast & have a front office with their heads up their a$$es.

[sheltwon3Participant]

You people don’t read, Fields was not talked about much going anywhere in this draft, and if you look at every one else’s picks, they were all guys that were mentioned throughout the draft process except at the end. I said he was an unknown and he was. There was a guy maybe a decade ago that led the league in scoring but draft wise no body talked about him and he did not get drafted and never played in the NBA. Kevin Martin averaged like 25 points one year and people were shocked to see him get picked in the 20’s for the Kings.

[llperez]

who said landry was a bum? Uhmm, the person who created this thread. ANd becuase he is not better then lebron or rudy gay you are gonna hold that aginst him? LOL

[sheltwon3Participant]

pirate you have a point. I am just saying that is their game plan so why take a small forward when that is an area you have a lot of depth at unless the guy is Lebron or Lebron like.

[sheltwon3Participant]

My bad lilperez I thought your rant was towards me. All i was saying is it is not smart to take a position that you have depth at to take someone who may not be better than what you have or who you are trying to get. Knicks biggest need was size but supposedly they trade for dude from Tulsa so that makes things different now.

[llperez]

i agree sheltwon, i had the knicks looking at bigs and pg’s. The wing position is stakced. But when i see people saying ” i never heard of that bum” when discussing a pac 10 player who put 22&9 and was dominating all season, i have to question if they know anything about basketball on the west coast. I just get heated over that stuff becuase people act like anyone out here sucks balls but if you look at the NBA rosters, pac 10 is represented as well as any confernece out there..

[sheltwon3Participant]

pac 10 did not do well this season though but I did not recognize his name but i do remember him being talked about when I was keeping track of Standford when they had the Lopez twins. Fields has come a long way since but from what I have seen he is not better than Chandler. I have not seen him play recently and I saw that he scored a lot of points but man there was so much 1st round talent available, I am just confused to what the Knicks are doing.

Lakers draft picks came after Knicks and they look better.

[meisi4Participant]

first off lebron is not over 30% likely to come. and 30% is very very optimistic!!!

the front office was dumb to clear capspace like crazy! Big mistake! its good to have the oppurtunity to sign someone especially this Year but not at all cost! i mean trading away the whole team and not knowing if you get someone at all is just stupid! get talent and capspace like chi, Jersey or the clips so you have at least something if you don’t hit à homerum…

then the picks: Gallo was okay Douglas also. but that Jordan Hill thing made 0.000 sence! taking him over à far more talented guy then not give him a single minute and trade him for just cap relief!!! no sence just stupid!!!!

and this years draft: zero NBA Talent for NY when pretty much was left on the board!

just a real bad front office that hasnt made a good move yet. they should be fired unless you make the lebron thing work or win 40+ games somehow next year! both possibilities are somehow connected and both have become even more unlikely after those completly just really dumb picks!!!

or does anybody think lebron will Be thrilled by the fact that those guys guys will always keep the bench warm for him if he needs a break?

to all of you saying knicks got good players: Adam Morrison had good numbers in the NCAA right? added to that you could have just gotten those guys maybe even undrafted! not saying they wont do anything but you could have gotten much more than at best to acceptable guys to come off the bench for some solid minutes…
and jerome jordan i think his name is as the answer at C? just LOL

[bkballerParticipant]

I think Chandler is on his way out soon =/

[knicksfan7Participant]

I have nothing against Landry Fields, but the knicks did not need a wing. If they wanted Fields and Rautins sooo badly they could have likely got both of them after the draft. They should have drafted Lance Stephenson and Jerome Jordan (though they did get him from the bucks, so it wasn’t that bad).

[OrangeJuiceJonesParticipant]

That was awful.

“With the 39th pick in the 2010 NBA Draft, the New York Knicks select Lan-”

I knew it! I knew it. Lance is going home. This must be a dream come true for him.

“-dry Fields…. Fields… Fields…”

Just awful. Even my cat hated that pick, and I don’t even have a cat.

[Toronto16Participant]

Andy Rautins wil be decent.

Raptors got two future busts.

Cheer up Knick fans.

[abcdefghijklParticipant]

I had Andy Rautins going late second to undrafted and landry fields going undrafted. They were picked much too early. But at least the knicks still have some cap room to sign a couple good free agents.

[topscoutParticipant]

Lance is a 1st round talent you cannot justify taking 2 players who r suppose 2 be lookin for 9 to 5 jobs..why last yr the knicks had about 9pf’s and they draft jordan hill this yr its only 5 players left on the roster n 2 r sf’s and you draft another 1 smh..when walsh was asked last yr y did he past up on brandon jennings he blamed his scouts and said he didn’t have enough info about him now what can you say about a player(lance)who grew Up in the city u work 4 n Played in the conference that plays on your Home floor? the knicks need the gm that the blazers just fired

[JRdaFilipinoParticipant]

Hey LLPEREZ… in case this didnt sink in yet.. this post was a RANT! A bum or not a bum, I don’t care… they were SO MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS the Knicks had and BETTER options as well, way more talented than Landry Fields… I understand you’re probably from the “west” and want the Pac-10 to be represented, but dont say someone doesnt know shit about basketball just because you like a certain player and others dont.

if he was WORTH KNOWING.. he would have gotten at least SOME BUZZ.. but no, he didn’t .. and the fact that there were more talented players that the Knicks still could have picked isnt the ONLY reason.

What position is Landry Fields, tell me… what, a SF? Yeah, I guess the Knicks really needed to add some depth there especially if ther trying to sign Lebron, smart move…

how about doing this to let it sink for you llperez

rank these players not only by their TALENT, POTENTIAL and SKILLL, but POSITIONAL NEED for the NEW YORK KNICKS

not in any order yet:

lance stephenson
landry fields
andy rautins
gani lawal
jarvis varnado
devin ebanks
ryan richards
willie warren

you’ll obviously have fields somewhere up there, right? ok, if ANYONE whos reading this post can put fields somewhere near the top, heck, even the TOP HALF.. then yeah, i apparently dont know SHIT about basketball, all these were options the knicks had at 38, 39.. saying he was a bum was wrong of me, but this was a RANT, and there were so many BETTER options the knicks had… obviously someone who can average 22 and 9 in division 1 basketball is not a bum, no shit, but compared to all the above prospects drafted after him, he isnt that great. now im curios, the hell thinks fields is so nice he deserved to be picked at 39?!?!?!???!!! lets see what the people think and who really doesnt know shit about basketball

[stanford hoops]

First off the people who didn’t know about fields are those who do t really watch basketball meaning they only limit there scope to what the hear other people talk about or who’s been hyped. Someone who really watches knows about the other players out there who can play but don’t get talked about. Also if u do you’re reasearch and not just look at a mock draft of someones opinion you would see how teams liked fields. Things like thus is was seperates regular people who think they can scout and those who do it for a living and watch players who aren’t just hyped or live off of potential. I keep hearing about this or that guy isn’t better then Chandler, what the hell do you expect Chandler was a first rounder this is the second round you really think chances are high that you get someone better then Chandler in the second round. And the people saying fields is a bum shows there lack of basketball knowledge. I like lance but he’s a slasher that can’t shoot. Yeah that fits in perfectly with lebron who’s also a slasher. You really think a second round pick is gonna make lebron come to ny????? Really. That’s laughable.fields is better then most guys on that list how bout watching the players instead of listening to people tell you how good those guys MIGHT be in the distant future. Dud you watch ebank? Yea he killed in the big east huh. Ryan Richards. Really? Clearly non of y’all have seen him other then on espn predraft combine, the guy did barely anything n a weak leauge in Europe. And no there wasn’t alot of firs round talent in the second round, there was alot of second round talent guys who are good but have it of flaws and work to do in there games. Why would lebron pick the knicks over Miami, bulls,clippers? To play with Chandler,gallo, Douglas? Really

[JNixonParticipant]

New York are expecting too much out of a 2nd round pick. Even though is an all-around talent, Fields isn’t NBA level at anything really, so there is a good chance him not making the team. Lance Stephenson would’ve been a good pick though, because they are going to need a scoring punch. They must know they are getting a high line FA because they passed on Stephenson who can potentially be a good scorer off the bat in the NBA to pick end of rotation players like Rautins and Hill. Maybe they picked them to feel some spots on their roster for when they fork all their money in FA.

[knicksfreakParticipant]

There was lottery talent still available at picks 38 and 39. I felt like driving my truck into a tree when i heard about our picks on the radio last night. We should not have picked wing players and if we did they should have been Stephenson, Warren, or Ebanks.

Marcus Landry is better than Rautins and he couldnt see the floor for a terrible Knicks team last year. Rautins has no NBA skills except for shooting. He is a huge liability anywhere else. I’ve never even heard of Fields but if guys with the poetntial of Lance and Devin are still on the board at SF you gotta take them.

We picked 2 players who have no chance of cracking our rotation while leaving guys like Lawal, Torrance, Stephenson, Warren, Ebanks, and Varnado who could have helped us right away.

And why couldnt we move up to get Armon Johnson who we reportedly liked? Or move up to get the highest risk/reward player in the draft at a position we desperatley need to fill in Whiteside?

I feel sick to my stomach

[stanford hoops]

Key word being potential. Right now fields is a better scorer and one thing that’s not so good about lance is he hasn’t shown he can be effective off the ball. Which I read why alot I’d teams were gonna pass on him. Potentially lance can be better if he learns to be effective(and shoot) without being the focal point of the offense

[knicksfreakParticipant]

Teams never get better by taking safe picks. There was lottery talent and we picked guys who will never see the floor.

[stanford hoops]

Why ebanks if you don’t think y’all needed a wing since he is a wing?? I agree they should have picked Warren or maybe Johnson. I understand why they skipped on lance. Pretty sure everyone they were gonna pick would be bench players anyway and all the starters they get will be free agents.

[JNixonParticipant]

He scored nearly twice as much as Stephenson did, but what about his scoring translates? He was the best player on a very suspect Stanford team, and you have to know he won’t see the ball at nearly the rate he did for Stanford. I’d be shocked if Hill puts up better scoring numbers than Stephenson does, even as a rookie. I watched him play against Kentucky and 1 other game against Washington and I think he’s solid, but nothing about him makes me think he can be a true rotation player. I think Stephenson will prove better immediately and down the line. But I could be wrong. Stephenson’s game translates easier than Hill’s does IMO.

[stanford hoops]

Who said these picks were safe picks? How uknow theses aren’t guys they wanted? Some knock fans think they were ginna draft a starter when the reality is most if not all the guys drafted in the second round will be the number 8 or lower guy off the bench. What shooters do the knicks have at the guard position? Duhon,Douglass, serg? The reality is theses picks are guys who will be coming off the bench with few exceptions

[stanford hoops]

Landry got dramatically better ever year. Lance hasn’t gotten much better since his soph year in hs. Feilds is effective without the ball., hustles rebounds and has played without being a top scoring option. He has a nice midrange and can knock down the three. after the Kentucky game us when u really started watching and researching him. I bet most people don’t know he was ranked higher on every teams draft board that worked out him and lance. My guess is he showed other things that we didn’t see him do in college. Also cincy was better then Stanford but they weren’t that good. Lance fg percentage was pretty bad for a scorer and other then iso plays he wasn’t a factor. I’m
sure I would have agreed wit you if I didn’t start watching the rest of stanfords games after the Kentucky game but after watching the rest of his season I can see why he went were he went in the draft and why he was on other teams player list

[knicksfreakParticipant]

Fields wasnt even in any other scouts top 60! He played on a poor Stanford team and seems to have an obvious ceiling.

I only suggested picking Ebanks because of his value and potential. I didnt want him but if the Knicks wanted to be dumb and draft SF’s then there were better ones to be had. We could have signed Fields as an undrafted FA.

The knicks have Douglas, Walker, Chandler, Gallinari, and Curry on the roster currently. rautins is not athletic enough nor can he guard anybody in the NBA. Walker and Chandler are both head and shoulders above Fields.

Fields provides nothing new for us. He has no outstanding NBA skill.

[Samuelindo1Participant]

Couldn’t the knicks have gotten these players anyway. I don’t much about Landry Fields and after looking at his stats I see that he was a very productive player in college but Stanford was still a bad team. I think when there are first round talents available such as Ebanks, Stephenson, and Warren, you need to go with them. 2nd round contracts aren’t guaranteed so they could have drafted a bigger named player and still probably get one or maybe both of these players after the draft. Rautins is a shooter but there were other players available whom the knicks could have looked at after the draft if Rautins was selected. Scheyer is a good shooter and can probably bring more to the table since he player PG at Duke. Both players are a liability defensively but I would’ve like Scheyer better because he is more versatile as a player than Rautins. What they should’ve done was pick the two best players available and look for shooters amongst the undrafted. They could’ve had the likes of Ebanks, Stephenson, or Warren and could have signed Fields and a shooter, Maybe Rautins to their summer league team and who ever the better players were could’ve been invited to training camp and they signed. Much more could’ve been done but once again the knicks have let me down.

[stanford hoops]

He was on NBA teams list. That’s what matters. People get caught up on web sites list which don’t matter as much as teams list after working out a player. People always talk about someones skill not translating to the NBA and just forget that the player can play ball. Fields isn’t great at things but he’s not bad at anything either and he’s gotten dramatically better everfevery year in college.he’s shown he can add things to his game and that he can get better. Can u say that about many guys in the second round or can u just say” he has the potential too….. Or maybe. And it’s a fact most people on here haven’t even seen many of fields games. Obviously it’s not luck that he was drafted ahead of some of you alls buddies. Every year someone says a players skill doesn’t translate then that player proves them wrong. Most fans don’t really know a players skill they just like the sexy names, someone who was a highschool star. Can’t wait till he proves the same doubters who doubted him as a college player wrong. why was he drafted if you feel he doesn’t have NBA skill? He doesn’t jump out the gym. He’s not seven feet, team wasn’t that good. And wasn’t high on some ones opinion mock draft.seems like everyone who acually watched him play a couple games like him but thoses who either never seen him play or watched a game or 2,3 doesn’t.

[stanford hoops]

What has ebanks proven to be a first round pick other then hype that he hasn’t lived up to? Nothing

[billykParticipant]

Ebanks was one of the best defenders in a tough defensive minded Big East… I think Ebanks defense will translate to the NBA… The Lakers got a steal.. I think Ebanks has the tools to be a ALL NBA defensive player…

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

People, there 2nd round picks. Let’s not act like it was a top 5 pick they whiffed on.

[stanford hoops]

exactly..they are second round picks…and who did ebanks guard and do a great job on who has nba starting sg/sf skills?.. im not saying he wont be a good defender but bradley was also considered a good defender and he went first round so that tells you right there how over hyped ebanks is. and this isnt a case of millsap where he was a second round pick and made many regret not picking him, because he actually dominated at rebounding in college

[OldSkoolBasketballParticipant]

I know Pac-10 basketball wasn’t great last season but Fields was one of the best in the conference. He is not a bad player.

[billykParticipant]

IMO Ebans passes my eye test as a defender… The times I watched Ebanks play defense he moved well, had good footwork, and he played with intensity… He seems to have more or as much defensive upside as any player in the draft.. He is lucky to get drafted by the Lakers and i think him and Caracter will have a BIG impact next year… These two guys will benefit playing on a team thats on a mission for a 3peat….

[billykParticipant]

IMO Ebans passes my eye test as a defender… The times I watched Ebanks play defense he moved well, had good footwork, and he played with intensity… He seems to have more or as much defensive upside as any player in the draft.. He is lucky to get drafted by the Lakers and i think him and Caracter will have a BIG impact next year… These two guys will benefit playing on a team thats on a mission for a 3peat….

[llperez]

so did you all see that 21 and 17 game yesterday?

[llperez]

so did you all see that 21 and 17 game yesterday?

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

"and some unheard of bum from stanford."

 

I’m not going to lie, I thought the Knicks made a bad choice selecting Rautins and Fields.. Atleast with Rautins, Fields was just unknown to me.. too unknown for me to talk bad about the kid.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

"and some unheard of bum from stanford."

 

I’m not going to lie, I thought the Knicks made a bad choice selecting Rautins and Fields.. Atleast with Rautins, Fields was just unknown to me.. too unknown for me to talk bad about the kid.

[Forte IVParticipant]

well you sure were wrong

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