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- Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 12:04am #40895
Allen_Iverson_3ParticipantLooking at the latest mock, I see that the Kings are thought to be taking Drummond at 5. I have no problem with that as the kid has tons of potential, but the thing that troubles me is that MKG would still be available at this point. I mean, we all know that the Kings have got a hole at SF whereas they have enough of talent in their frontcourt for them to draft a PF only if both Barnes and MKG are gone before 5. Also, I would take MKG over Drummond as he is the surest bet of the 2, but also because I think that the Kings already have enough talent in Evans, Cousins, Thornton and even Jimmer and Thomas to take the boom or bust pick over the safer one.
I’m not saying that I’m sure that MKG will succeed in the league, I just tend to think that with his mentality he’s the glue guy the Kings need at SF for them to become a contender pretty soon, because right now they have talen, but they also need guys for cohesion. The Spurs had Bruce Bowen, and I think the Kings should have MKG if they want to progress in the close future.
I’m also thinking: are they thought to be picking Drummond to trade the pick to Portland or to another team in love with him? If so I think it’s not a good idea as MKG is exactly the guy that Sacramento needs.
If you were the Kings’ GM, who of the two would you pick and why?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 12:10am #687934
earldaniel31ParticipantThey will whoever’s left of Beal, Barnes, MKG, or Robinson
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 1:03am #687936
seniokasParticipantThe problem with MKG and Kings is that they desperately need someone with ability to shoot the ball. They also have the need of glue guy but I believe good coach can make more of this team with good shooter like Barnes than with glue guy MKG.
Also, Drummond + Cousins is very interesting frontcourt, I would question their defensive potential to guard 4’s, although they both are incredbily mobile for guys their size. Inside-out play would also be in question because neither of them is good shooter ( though Cousins can shoot till 15 foot, he is still not as reliable as he should be ).
Best pick for them would be Barnes, Robinson would be great too, MKG would work if they trade one of their 2’s for a player who can shoot, Beal would great too, but they would have to play with small wing players without legit 3, if Drummond would become into something he can possibly than it would also be really interesting frontcourt with that size, length, athletism and mobility.
Overall, here would be my list of players from best fit to worse Barnes, Robinson, Beal, MKG, Drummond, but Drummond and MKG pretty close to each other.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 2:02am #687943
nick5354ParticipantDrummond will compliment cousins perfectly. Cousins will look to be aggresive on offensive, and Drummond would look to block and provide his massive defensive presence. MKG is also a perfect fit for the Kings. With Evans, Thornton, cousins jacking up heaps of shots you don’t need to bring in another player like Barnes to shoot the ball heaps. You need a guy who can bring a team together, someone who is a glue guy. MKG is this person., and just needs to work on that ugly jumper to make defenders accountable for him.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 2:11am #687944
220ParticipantI hope Golden State gets lucky and MKG slides to them. I think that’s the best scenario for him as a player. He’d go right back into a scenario where he can be a glue guy. Then they could take their time and help him develop.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 2:13am #687946
MusliParticipantI don’t think Kings necessarily need a 3 that can shoot. They have Thomas & Thornton for outside shooting (also Jimmer off the bench) and Cousins for inside scoring, and one ball to play with 😉 I think they need someone to take care of the little things & play defense on the wing – hello MKG. However, it would be even better if they could flip the #5 pick for Kyle Lowry and one of Houston’s picks and used it to draft Moe Harkless. I don’t think MKG is that much better than Harkless and Kyle Lowry would be an instant upgrade over Thomas, who could lead the 2nd unit like Lou Williams.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 2:22am #687947
RapCityParticipantThat wink was creepy AF
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 3:17am #687956
Andrew1984ParticipantI agree with Musli. They don’t have any more FGAs to go around, that’s why Barnes isn’t a good fit; they don’t have a need for the primary commodity he provides. It’s supply-and-demand, and they already have a healthy supply of his goods (offense).
They need tenacity, competitiveness, unselfishness, physicality, and basketball IQ. They need a glue guy, a heart-and-soul guy. I think it makes a lot of sense for them to get back to 14 and 16 for guys like Royce White, Moe Harkless if MKG is gone by No. 5.
But if MKG is gone and they aren’t able to move back, what if they traded Tyreke Evans to the Bulls for Noah and Jimmy Butler, a budding defensive specialist, and then drafted Lillard at 5 who they love, and traded Isaiah Thomas to New Orleans for a future first-round pick (Lottery protected)? New Orleans desperately needs a PG because Jarrett Jack is not the long-term setter-upper of Eric Gordon and Anthony Davis, and they seem to be looking at either a 5 if Meyers Leonard is there, or possibly a 3 if Terrence Ross is there at 10 (some say Rivers, but I think Rivers will be gone and they’re bent on re-signing Eric Gordon)
They’d go Lillard-Thornton-Butler-Cousins-Noah with Jimmer as their instant offense off the bench guy.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 4:06am #687973
Allen_Iverson_3ParticipantDude that’s too much trading to make it real + I doubt that Thomas is worth a future 1st round pick yet, especially considering that New Orleans is rebuilding so the next draft picks could be lottery picks for a year or 2.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 4:23am #687989
WizardofOzParticipantSounds like the Kings are gonna take Lillard from all the new info coming out.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 4:49am #688003
Allen_Iverson_3ParticipantSources?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 4:54am #688007
HitsterParticipantAaron now has the Kings taking Drummond which putting him alongside DMC could honestly go either way.
MKG has slid to 7 on the latest site mock, so could Portland suddenly get lots of offers to trade the 6th pick to take him there I wonder as we assume that the Warriors would take MKG but Portland with Batum in situ may have less need for him.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 5:03am #688015
What The DevilParticipantI would personally like either Drummond or MKG but I lean more towards Drummond cause he has such huge upside and fits well next to DMC. Drummond would be able to work on his offensive game without worry of being a focal point of an offense. All he would have to do is rebound/block shots/use athleticism to score and that’s fairly simple. My only worries would be coaching. I’m kinda worried that Smart is going to play all offense and no defense like he did last year and that just isn’t a viable. I’m also worried about Drummond being put in the Kings situation of instability and other growth stunting areas such as coaching.
This is why I believe the MKG would be the better pick since he would be a glue guy type player and I don’t believe all of the instability will stunt him as much as it would Drummond.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 5:08am #688019
Andrew1984ParticipantHow is two trades too much trading? Because two is a slightly larger number than one? A lot of teams make a plethora of trades in one off-season, sometimes even in the same night! My, what a novel thought!
And Isaiah Thomas out-played his draft position by a mile, is young, promising, super fast, a good passer and penetrator, and could distribute the ball there for years to come. Why wait to draft a young PG next year or the following year when you can get one who is already good and let him run with Anthony Davis?
Chances are Sacramento won’t trade Thomas anyway, but I guarantee you New Orleans does something to uprade the PG position THIS YEAR, or at least starts grooming someone for it. Maybe it’ll be DJ Augustin, I don’t know, but Jarrett Jack will be 29 when the season starts and averages 10 points a game for his career (though, I have to hand it to him for a nice year last year at 15.6 ppg and 6.3 apg).
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 5:32am #688042
sjcmr5SamParticipantI dont see why everyone thinks pairing two centers together in a league that is consitently trending toward versatile forwards is such a good idea. Yes cousins does have the skill set to play the 4 offensively but he is 6’11" 280 which is bigger than your average center. He could not defend the 4 and when teams went small like the thunder and heat did in the finals then one of the bigs would have to ride the bench.
Its a little big of a reach but i would take Henson bc then Cousins could stay at the 5 and you have a versatile PF to block shots and do the dirty work defensively. I know henson needs to add 20 lbs but the potenital is there and its a good team fit.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 6:18am #688073
Andrew1984ParticipantYeah, having two good big guys on the floor at once is a pretty lousy idea. It only helped Kobe and the Lakers win two back-to-back NBA titles.
0- Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 7:43am #688817
sjcmr5SamParticipantThey had Kobe and the last time I checked the Kings don’t. What has there two bigs done for them the last two years? And Gasol is may more versatile than cousins will ever be. Finally their titles were not back to back they were spaced by a year with the Celtics winning. Not to mention the NBA is changing every year to being a little smaller and a little faster
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 7:43am #688818
sjcmr5SamParticipantThey had Kobe and the last time I checked the Kings don’t. What has there two bigs done for them the last two years? And Gasol is may more versatile than cousins will ever be. Finally their titles were not back to back they were spaced by a year with the Celtics winning. Not to mention the NBA is changing every year to being a little smaller and a little faster
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 7:43am #688819
sjcmr5SamParticipantThey had Kobe and the last time I checked the Kings don’t. What has there two bigs done for them the last two years? And Gasol is may more versatile than cousins will ever be. Finally their titles were not back to back they were spaced by a year with the Celtics winning. Not to mention the NBA is changing every year to being a little smaller and a little faster
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- Posted on: Tue, 06/26/2012 - 6:23am #688070
Jlv2012develop Cousins and that’s a big project in itself. Bringing in Drummond just adds on to their instability. He’s got potential but if there are questions about his motor or work ethics then Sacramento is not the place to go right now. But he was the only player in the top 6-7 besides Lillard who worked out for the Kings so he’s seems like a good dude. However, bring in MKG. He plays defense, the Kings will love him.
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