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  • #54494
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    morestealsthanscores
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     Right, let’s break it to Minnesota fans- K-Love isn’t coming back. Anyone see that postgame interview? Wow.

    So, Minny needs to get rid, or they WILL lose him for nothing. Should’ve signed him to that 5 year contract when they had the chance.

    In terms of trade destinations…I really like the Warriors. They need spacing desperately to pick up a flagging offense, and another go-to guy to carry some of the load.

    Let’s start the bidding- Lee, Barnes, and a 1st rounder. Who says no? And could you make that a workable trade? 

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #882259
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    By the 2015 trade deadline.  I would say this summer to the Lakers, but they have absolutely no one to trade for him.  Brutally sad current state of my Lakers.  Vertigo Gasol, really!

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  • #882368
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    Moon River
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    By the 2015 trade deadline.  I would say this summer to the Lakers, but they have absolutely no one to trade for him.  Brutally sad current state of my Lakers.  Vertigo Gasol, really!

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  • #882261
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    Since we’re playing this game, sure, I’ll join in (even though I don’t think it’ll happen).

    Cleveland – 2014 1st Rounder (currently 9th), Dion Waiters, Tristan Thompson, Anderson Varejao

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    Minnesota – Kevin Love 

     

    Why for Minnesota?

    – Minnesota can still get a pretty decent player with the 9th pick, a serviceable PF in Thompson, Varejao’s expiring, and Waiters who has been playing really well since Kyrie went down with injury (23 pts 6 assists since Kyrie’s injury).

    Why for Cleveland?

    – It gives Kyrie another superstar and would still have enough cap space to pursue another superstar to form their own big 3 (LeBron, anyone?)

     

    Again, I don’t see it happening. But if Minnesota ever does decide to get rid of Kevin Love I do think the Cavaliers can throw together a pretty interesting package. Would Kevin Love stay for more than his current 2 year contract says? Maybe not. But if you’re Cleveland, it’s time to start rolling the dice on all the assets they’ve accrued. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #882370
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    Since we’re playing this game, sure, I’ll join in (even though I don’t think it’ll happen).

    Cleveland – 2014 1st Rounder (currently 9th), Dion Waiters, Tristan Thompson, Anderson Varejao

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    Minnesota – Kevin Love 

     

    Why for Minnesota?

    – Minnesota can still get a pretty decent player with the 9th pick, a serviceable PF in Thompson, Varejao’s expiring, and Waiters who has been playing really well since Kyrie went down with injury (23 pts 6 assists since Kyrie’s injury).

    Why for Cleveland?

    – It gives Kyrie another superstar and would still have enough cap space to pursue another superstar to form their own big 3 (LeBron, anyone?)

     

    Again, I don’t see it happening. But if Minnesota ever does decide to get rid of Kevin Love I do think the Cavaliers can throw together a pretty interesting package. Would Kevin Love stay for more than his current 2 year contract says? Maybe not. But if you’re Cleveland, it’s time to start rolling the dice on all the assets they’ve accrued. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #882263
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    Andrew1984
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    I have a feeling Dallas and Houston will be at the front of the line for Mr. Love’s services.

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  • #882372
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    Andrew1984
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    I have a feeling Dallas and Houston will be at the front of the line for Mr. Love’s services.

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  • #882265
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    Rip255

    I honestly think he gets traded next season for cents on the dollar to a contender, and then signs for a max with the lakers in 2015 in free agency. 

    Minnesota handled him really badly. With everyone believing he will sign with LA, how much will a contender give up to rent him. A first round pick which would be in the 21-30 range and an expiring might be the best they can hope for. 

    I don’t mind your Golden State trade for the Cali factor, but don’t think G.S.W. will risk it with him potentially not re-signing with them. Harrison Barnes & David Lee will have good trade value and they will only be on the block for a PF because they’re thin at that position and pretty good everywhere else. 

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  • #882374
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    Rip255

    I honestly think he gets traded next season for cents on the dollar to a contender, and then signs for a max with the lakers in 2015 in free agency. 

    Minnesota handled him really badly. With everyone believing he will sign with LA, how much will a contender give up to rent him. A first round pick which would be in the 21-30 range and an expiring might be the best they can hope for. 

    I don’t mind your Golden State trade for the Cali factor, but don’t think G.S.W. will risk it with him potentially not re-signing with them. Harrison Barnes & David Lee will have good trade value and they will only be on the block for a PF because they’re thin at that position and pretty good everywhere else. 

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  • #882267
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    What about this trade?  Might not be a great fit, but I think they can figure it out.

    Kevin Love and the contract formerly known as JJ Barea to the New Orleans Pelicans for Ryan Anderson, Tyreke Evans, Austin Rivers, the 43rd pick, the 53rd pick, and cash.

    The T Wolves reload with more ball dominate guards who can’t shoot in Tyreke and Rivers for the 3 R’s Attack (Rubio, ‘reke, and Rivers).  Ryan Anderson is still a poor man’s version of Kevin Love and he would fit in with either Nik/Pec or Gorgeous Gorgui Dieng at center.

    With the 43rd and 53rd pick the T Wolves could go after more guys who can’t shoot just so Dieng could gobble up even more rebounds.  With Corey Brewer as a wing defender and athlete, Kevin Martin as a shooter, and Chase Budinger providing none of those three things, this T Wolves team is now sneaky loaded.

    The Pelicans bet that two of the best forwards in the game can figure it out.  Anthony Davis and Kevin Love would be one heck of an attack.  With Jru Holiday and Eric Gordon in the backcourt to keep the other team in the game, I like this a lot for the Pelicans.  The Pelicans can even go with a hugely huge attack with Love AND Davis at the forward spots and Withey, Ajinca, or Stiemsma at center.  Then they still have Aminu as a glue guy small forward.  Obviously, they would have to figure some things out, but this team could be SCARY.

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  • #882376
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    What about this trade?  Might not be a great fit, but I think they can figure it out.

    Kevin Love and the contract formerly known as JJ Barea to the New Orleans Pelicans for Ryan Anderson, Tyreke Evans, Austin Rivers, the 43rd pick, the 53rd pick, and cash.

    The T Wolves reload with more ball dominate guards who can’t shoot in Tyreke and Rivers for the 3 R’s Attack (Rubio, ‘reke, and Rivers).  Ryan Anderson is still a poor man’s version of Kevin Love and he would fit in with either Nik/Pec or Gorgeous Gorgui Dieng at center.

    With the 43rd and 53rd pick the T Wolves could go after more guys who can’t shoot just so Dieng could gobble up even more rebounds.  With Corey Brewer as a wing defender and athlete, Kevin Martin as a shooter, and Chase Budinger providing none of those three things, this T Wolves team is now sneaky loaded.

    The Pelicans bet that two of the best forwards in the game can figure it out.  Anthony Davis and Kevin Love would be one heck of an attack.  With Jru Holiday and Eric Gordon in the backcourt to keep the other team in the game, I like this a lot for the Pelicans.  The Pelicans can even go with a hugely huge attack with Love AND Davis at the forward spots and Withey, Ajinca, or Stiemsma at center.  Then they still have Aminu as a glue guy small forward.  Obviously, they would have to figure some things out, but this team could be SCARY.

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  • #882273
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    Tyrober
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    The longer they wait to trade him the harder it is going to be to get good value. I think the Cavs, Celtics, Suns, and Warriors can all put together pretty good packages for him. The Wolves are obviously never going to get enough value back for him and will have to settle, but they need to do it THIS offseason. 

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  • #882382
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    The longer they wait to trade him the harder it is going to be to get good value. I think the Cavs, Celtics, Suns, and Warriors can all put together pretty good packages for him. The Wolves are obviously never going to get enough value back for him and will have to settle, but they need to do it THIS offseason. 

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  • #882289
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    thanks all for the input. seems to me that trades for a guy with one year left are the ultimate ‘chips in the middle’ trade in the NBA. get it right, you’re a hero. get it wrong, you’re Dwight Howard’s bitch. And we’ve had two high-profile examples recently (Howard and Deng) where it just hasn’t connected. But would both teams take that chance again? For the ghost of Andrew Bynum, or for two second-rounders? Definitely.

    Great trade proposals from Memphis Madness and CavsFan, but my initial reaction was ‘damn, i’ll take them in a heartbeat’. Cause as Rip255 says, if it doesn’t come off, you look foolish and as Tyrober says- don’t bite, you risk losing him for nothing. Think I’d only go for it if I had a legitimate shot to win the title, and a fading window to do so.

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  • #882398
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    thanks all for the input. seems to me that trades for a guy with one year left are the ultimate ‘chips in the middle’ trade in the NBA. get it right, you’re a hero. get it wrong, you’re Dwight Howard’s bitch. And we’ve had two high-profile examples recently (Howard and Deng) where it just hasn’t connected. But would both teams take that chance again? For the ghost of Andrew Bynum, or for two second-rounders? Definitely.

    Great trade proposals from Memphis Madness and CavsFan, but my initial reaction was ‘damn, i’ll take them in a heartbeat’. Cause as Rip255 says, if it doesn’t come off, you look foolish and as Tyrober says- don’t bite, you risk losing him for nothing. Think I’d only go for it if I had a legitimate shot to win the title, and a fading window to do so.

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  • #882291
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    Oh, and Memphis Madness: Gorgeous Gorgui Dieng? LIKE IT.

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  • #882400
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    morestealsthanscores
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    Oh, and Memphis Madness: Gorgeous Gorgui Dieng? LIKE IT.

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  • #882295
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    burgessfour
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    Sixers – Thad, they’re top pick for 2014, and one of their later 2nds in 2014

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    burgessfour
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    Sixers – Thad, they’re top pick for 2014, and one of their later 2nds in 2014

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  • #882435
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    If the Wolves are gonna trade Love, they need to go all out and try and unload some of their monster crappy contracts (i.e. Brewer, Budinger, Barea (at least his will be expiring), KMart, maybe Pek for the right deal) as well, and get first rounders out of it, preferably high picks this year. If they’re gonna get rid of :ove, they can’t be content with a horrible financial situation and mediocrity; they need to go all out and suck. 

    I can’t see him going to the Cavs- the Wolves wouldn’t settle for anything less than Irving, and there’s no way Gilbert will give him up. Waiters is trash, Thompson is good but they would need to put together a much more enticing package than one built around Waiters. 

    I’d like to see him going to the Suns for one of Bledsoe or Dragic, Markieff Morris, their firsts this year and possibly another first next year.

    I’d also approve of a trade to the Lakers if they could get another team involved and have the Lakers give up their lotto pick this year (only if it’s top 5 though). 

    Someone mentioned the Sixers- if they gave up Young and salary filler and gave us their firsts this year and possibly another next year, and took on a couple of our crappy contracts, I’d consider that. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #882327
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    If the Wolves are gonna trade Love, they need to go all out and try and unload some of their monster crappy contracts (i.e. Brewer, Budinger, Barea (at least his will be expiring), KMart, maybe Pek for the right deal) as well, and get first rounders out of it, preferably high picks this year. If they’re gonna get rid of :ove, they can’t be content with a horrible financial situation and mediocrity; they need to go all out and suck. 

    I can’t see him going to the Cavs- the Wolves wouldn’t settle for anything less than Irving, and there’s no way Gilbert will give him up. Waiters is trash, Thompson is good but they would need to put together a much more enticing package than one built around Waiters. 

    I’d like to see him going to the Suns for one of Bledsoe or Dragic, Markieff Morris, their firsts this year and possibly another first next year.

    I’d also approve of a trade to the Lakers if they could get another team involved and have the Lakers give up their lotto pick this year (only if it’s top 5 though). 

    Someone mentioned the Sixers- if they gave up Young and salary filler and gave us their firsts this year and possibly another next year, and took on a couple of our crappy contracts, I’d consider that. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #882438
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    Rip255

    Houston give up

    Lin, Asik, 1st round draft pick, 2nd round pick and Barea’s expiring contract

     

    Twolves give up

    Love and Rubio

     

     

     

     

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  • #882329
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    Rip255

    Houston give up

    Lin, Asik, 1st round draft pick, 2nd round pick and Barea’s expiring contract

     

    Twolves give up

    Love and Rubio

     

     

     

     

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  • #882523
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    Would Minnesota have made it to the first round of the playoffs (much less relevance) over the course of the contract if they gave Love a five-year contract? This isn’t LeBron leaving Cleveland where the team will go from 60 wins to 15. They aren’t exactly changing levels. What is the worst they can do? They won 31 games last year with Love missing almost all the year and Pekovic playing 7 games after January. It is not about being bereft of talent. They have close to a $70 million roster filled with players other teams would want, and many of whom other teams have won with. The problem is about a willingness to play defense. Minnesota’s defensive strategy is to run up and down and hope bad, dumb teams start trying to chase threes and then get run out of the gym. It beats up the bad teams really well, but you can’t going anywhere with it in the NBA.

    If the lottery balls fall certain ways, it is possible that Minnesota can find a trade partner. Denver would be an interesting potential partner. It would seem to me that the Lakers would be a willing partner (Jim Buss values defense enough to hire D’Antoni) if they ended up 5 or 6, though there is not a ton they can add on. Detroit would actually be an interesting fit with Smith and Drummond. Danny Ainge has said to anyone willing to listen that he does not think this draft is worthy of the hype. It is more likely, however, that this goes into the summer of 2015. Ultimately, I think Minnesota’s owner is not going to want to deal Love and risk ticket sales. They have not drawn all that well as is, and it is going to be difficult to get a team to put up a big enough package for the owner to sell the fanbase. They have already gone ten years without going to the playoffs. 

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  • #882631
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    Would Minnesota have made it to the first round of the playoffs (much less relevance) over the course of the contract if they gave Love a five-year contract? This isn’t LeBron leaving Cleveland where the team will go from 60 wins to 15. They aren’t exactly changing levels. What is the worst they can do? They won 31 games last year with Love missing almost all the year and Pekovic playing 7 games after January. It is not about being bereft of talent. They have close to a $70 million roster filled with players other teams would want, and many of whom other teams have won with. The problem is about a willingness to play defense. Minnesota’s defensive strategy is to run up and down and hope bad, dumb teams start trying to chase threes and then get run out of the gym. It beats up the bad teams really well, but you can’t going anywhere with it in the NBA.

    If the lottery balls fall certain ways, it is possible that Minnesota can find a trade partner. Denver would be an interesting potential partner. It would seem to me that the Lakers would be a willing partner (Jim Buss values defense enough to hire D’Antoni) if they ended up 5 or 6, though there is not a ton they can add on. Detroit would actually be an interesting fit with Smith and Drummond. Danny Ainge has said to anyone willing to listen that he does not think this draft is worthy of the hype. It is more likely, however, that this goes into the summer of 2015. Ultimately, I think Minnesota’s owner is not going to want to deal Love and risk ticket sales. They have not drawn all that well as is, and it is going to be difficult to get a team to put up a big enough package for the owner to sell the fanbase. They have already gone ten years without going to the playoffs. 

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  • #882747
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     It’s not out of the question the Lakers are tanking for a high pick so they can make a draft day trade for Love. Of course if they move into the top 3 probably wouldn’t do it and would just take their chances signing him out right.

      

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  • #882640
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     It’s not out of the question the Lakers are tanking for a high pick so they can make a draft day trade for Love. Of course if they move into the top 3 probably wouldn’t do it and would just take their chances signing him out right.

      

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  • #882771
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    I also think Love is gone. He is going to be too big a star to stay in Minnesota. And not giving him the the max was a big mistake. But Minnesota can still fix this. There main problem is their bench. They have the core of a good team. Fix the bench and that is a fix that is possible in the off season, and this team will win more games and make the playoffs. Maybe that is enough to get Love to stay. I doubt it. But there is room for a run here with this team next year. Maybe it is worth it. 

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  • #882664
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    I also think Love is gone. He is going to be too big a star to stay in Minnesota. And not giving him the the max was a big mistake. But Minnesota can still fix this. There main problem is their bench. They have the core of a good team. Fix the bench and that is a fix that is possible in the off season, and this team will win more games and make the playoffs. Maybe that is enough to get Love to stay. I doubt it. But there is room for a run here with this team next year. Maybe it is worth it. 

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  • #882775
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    The Wizrds are young and playoff bound.  Nene is getting on and is a bit injury prone.

    Maybe something like Nene and Porter or Porter and Booker or Saraphin.

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  • #882668
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    The Wizrds are young and playoff bound.  Nene is getting on and is a bit injury prone.

    Maybe something like Nene and Porter or Porter and Booker or Saraphin.

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