You are clearly just trying to argue. And I am not reading btph's post cuz i don't give a **** what he or anyone else wrote. How can you say that love and beasley will still be the same on defense in 4 years?? They might just improve their defense in the next 3 offseasons, who knows. And y do u say that have no PG or true C?? If they get Rubio and he is legit and then draft Kanter, wallllla problem solved.
You are just arguing to argue
No, Im arguing because you are stupid. Just because a team has 2 guys who put up decent numbers, doesnt mean they are going to acquire a point guard, a center, make tremendous strides defensively and become contenders. That is just ridiculous. I respected Quincey's opinion, because it made sense. Your argument is brainlessness at its finest. You are talking with about a guy with a .300 winning percentage and a guy who was almost kicked off his last team cuz he "couldnt handle being in the NBA". Sounds like a championship combination to me. When they draft Kyrie Irving, Austin Rivers, Andre Drummond and all of them become superstar players, then i will agree with you. Right now, they would need multiple things to happen for them to get any better. The Grizzlies were saying the same thing when Mayo was a rookie and Gay was having a good year "look out, this team is going to be amazing in 3 years" They havent improved at all.
Oh so that's y lol. First off, I am in no way shape or form a T-Wolves fan so this is a strictly basketball convo, no bias. With that said, IDC if the Wolves become contenders; it is the fact that they have a young nucleus with impending draft picks/foreign players who could give them a chance to contend. Sure the Grizzlies had a similar outlook, but they haven't done a good job of building a winner in the past few years, it happens. I will NEVER sit here and say "Minny will be a contender in 4 years." I am saying "Minny could be a contender in 4 years." I just do not understand why you disagree with that.
Anyone could be a contender in 4 years. trades/drafts/etc. I have a problem with the notion Minnesota has a leg up on anybody not named Cleveland, Toronto, or Philly.
Well maybe you should of stated that.
Beasley has improved. He shows signs of being a leader, and his defensive effort isn't comparable to his time in Miami. I'm guessing you haven't watched the Timberwolves very much.
I've watched a handfull of games.
I don't see much improvement at that end of the floor.
He's scoring more points, but that isn't surprising anybody. People always thought he'd score a lot if on a bad team. The problem in Miami was that he wasn't good at anything other than shooting. I still see that in Minnesota. He's still a ball stopper and doesn't see a shot he doesn't like (1.6 assists).
The only difference I see in Minnesota is that he has the green light and isn't being benched for playing poor defense.
Obviously he was going to score more, but his effort and intensity on the defensive end of the floor are much improved. I'm not claiming he's an All Star or saying he's gotten way better. In fact it's debatable if his offense is better, but he is trying on the other end of the floor and that along with signs of leadership to me mean he has improved.
Seriously, how many players could average 20 a game on Minnesota? Damn near every starter in the league.
His on ball defense has been passable, but it's off of the ball where you need to focus.
Where's his focus and cocentration when playing the weakside? He turns his head frequently and gets beat with backdoors... He doesn't know when to switch/stay with his man or show/recover... Beasley doesn't know where he is on defense just like in Miami. You need to take a closer look. He hasn't improved defensively.
And on top of that, Beasley still doesn't like to box out for rebounds.
I would LOVE for someone to average 20 a game on the Sixers. I have not seen a single 20 ppg scorer on the Sixers since AI left in 2006-07 (iggy averaged 19.9 the nxt yr but F him, not 20 haha.) Give me Beasley any day if I need some scoring.
Bobcats, Cavs, Pistons, Bucks, Nets, Hornets, Sixers, Blazers, Kings, and Wizards.
It is hard to score 20 ppg in the NBA
Beasley is the Ben Gordon of forwards.
Can't and won't pass. Can't really defend either forward position. Doesn't rebound. Can give you 20 points though.
That's why I think he'd be better as a scoring punch off of the bench.
I agree that Beasley will be an awesome 6th man as he matures later in his career. I think he is gonna try and become a go-to-guy first thou.
That is true. I'm not one to watch weakside defense.
Anyways random question, are the Bulls-Thunder on TV?
Uno- Its on the local Chicago Sports Network so I dont think its on anywhere else, except maybe NBA TV.
Boozer looking really solid...so is Nenard Krstic? hes had kind of a wtf half.
Who is winning the Rose-Westbrook battle? Looks pretty even from the box score.
Same can be said about every starter could average 20 a game on the clippers. both teams are just as bad. Both are the bottom of the bottom
edit- actually after further review the clippers are the worst team int he NBA record wise
Quincey- true this. But im morely referring to Beasely than Love. Love has actually looked impressive whereas Beasely is just getting shots because the team sucks.
Uno- Neither Rose nor Westbrook has done anything to stand out to this point.
Korver has been the star of this game so far.
Westbrook did pick Rose's pocket just now... He missed the layup though.
He looked impressive to you and a couple of people on here but he's looked impressive to the majority of people every time they mention him on the sport shows. I'm not gonna even began to seriously say how easy it is to score 20 a game in the NBA on any team because every player i know says its hard to just average 15 especially on a bad team where teams focus there defense on you. A Lot easier to score when you have other good teammates and all you have to deal with is one on one. I remember Scottie pippen saying Jordan made the game so much easier for him then when he went to other teams because defenses focused on Jordan so much
Nice 5 pt swing...Westbrook picked Rose at halfcourt but Rose hustled and contested the shot and westbrook choked the layup. Rose took it and pushed it to Deng for a corner 3.
Korvers jumper is like a video game. I rmember TRYING (key word) to check him int he summer league out here, needless to say it didnt turn out well on my end because his release is quick and if you get picked just a lil bit and fall even half a step behind you're done
Beasley is shooting 47% from the floor and is scoring 21.6 ppg in only 33 minutes a game, pretty solid numbers if you ask me regardless of what team he is on. I've been to a few Wolves games and have watched every game that has been on tv, and the only knock I can say about Beasley is there are times where he is prone to make mental mistakes. Whether that be turning the ball over, or losing his man in the corner and giving up a three. All of those can be fixed in time. Once again, he is only 21 years old and still has a lot of maturing to do and I am hoping a lot of that will happen over the rest of this season.
Also, lets not forget that the Wolves have given up some leads late in games. They could have easily won games against SA (2), OKC, Charlotte, and ATL (you could also argue that had Darko not left tonight's game against the Knicks, they could have pulled one out at MSG). If that were the case, they would be a .500 team and all of you haters would probably have a different opinion on them. The fact is, they are the youngest team in the league and these growing pains and losses are expected, but as a lifelong T-Wolves fan, I actually have a team that is fun to watch and cheer for, and that hasn't happened since Garnett left. It's been tough being a Wolves fan over the years, that is why you guys probably hear so much about this team (Love and Beasley especially) and the upside they have.
Also, getting Flynn and Webster healthy is definately going to help put them in more positions to win ball games. I can't wait to see Webster as the first guy off the bench rather than Corey Brewer.