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- Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:21pm #23411
Cardinal_FanParticipantKemba Walker is goin nuts rite now!!!!! He is playing lights out in limited minutes!!!!! Wut do u guys think his comparison is now???? He seems 2 be shooting the ball better this season an with more confidence. How high could he go in the draft? Wut is his celiling? Would love to get u guys feedback
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:27pm #442386
JoeWolf1I think Walker is a lottery pick in the 8-14 range, he has good size and top end speed and I was watching him pretty much beat a solid WSU team by himself. I’d compare him to a bigger Ty Lawson
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:27pm #442399
JoeWolf1I think Walker is a lottery pick in the 8-14 range, he has good size and top end speed and I was watching him pretty much beat a solid WSU team by himself. I’d compare him to a bigger Ty Lawson
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:27pm #442403
JoeWolf1I think Walker is a lottery pick in the 8-14 range, he has good size and top end speed and I was watching him pretty much beat a solid WSU team by himself. I’d compare him to a bigger Ty Lawson
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:29pm #442389
IndianaBasketballParticipantLate Lottery to Mid-First Round.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:29pm #442402
IndianaBasketballParticipantLate Lottery to Mid-First Round.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:29pm #442405
IndianaBasketballParticipantLate Lottery to Mid-First Round.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:30pm #442392
JNixonParticipantI still see Walker as a young T.J. Ford type. He’s fast and a dynamic playmaker. He plays better D than Ford though, and even though he’s not big he’s still not going to be limited quite as much as Ford has been by his lack of size. Playing against the FIBA players has benefitted him like I thought it would though. He’s made some solid improvements from last year.
I see him anywhere from late lotto to the mid-20’s.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:30pm #442406
JNixonParticipantI still see Walker as a young T.J. Ford type. He’s fast and a dynamic playmaker. He plays better D than Ford though, and even though he’s not big he’s still not going to be limited quite as much as Ford has been by his lack of size. Playing against the FIBA players has benefitted him like I thought it would though. He’s made some solid improvements from last year.
I see him anywhere from late lotto to the mid-20’s.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:30pm #442408
JNixonParticipantI still see Walker as a young T.J. Ford type. He’s fast and a dynamic playmaker. He plays better D than Ford though, and even though he’s not big he’s still not going to be limited quite as much as Ford has been by his lack of size. Playing against the FIBA players has benefitted him like I thought it would though. He’s made some solid improvements from last year.
I see him anywhere from late lotto to the mid-20’s.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:30pm #442398
Cardinal_FanParticipantThats a good comparison, i think your rite on, i think he could be a better version with sum added weight and if his shot keeps progressing.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:30pm #442412
Cardinal_FanParticipantThats a good comparison, i think your rite on, i think he could be a better version with sum added weight and if his shot keeps progressing.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:30pm #442413
Cardinal_FanParticipantThats a good comparison, i think your rite on, i think he could be a better version with sum added weight and if his shot keeps progressing.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:31pm #442401
Cardinal_FanParticipant(Ty Lawson comparison)
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:31pm #442415
Cardinal_FanParticipant(Ty Lawson comparison)
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:31pm #442417
Cardinal_FanParticipant(Ty Lawson comparison)
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:37pm #442411
GrandmamaParticipantMix between Tim Hardaway and Ty Lawson…..glad to see my boy breaking out, he wasn’t getting any love coming into the season. I think he will get drafted somewhere between 15-22. Has a chance to creep into the late lottery if he continues to light it up all year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:37pm #442423
GrandmamaParticipantMix between Tim Hardaway and Ty Lawson…..glad to see my boy breaking out, he wasn’t getting any love coming into the season. I think he will get drafted somewhere between 15-22. Has a chance to creep into the late lottery if he continues to light it up all year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:37pm #442425
GrandmamaParticipantMix between Tim Hardaway and Ty Lawson…..glad to see my boy breaking out, he wasn’t getting any love coming into the season. I think he will get drafted somewhere between 15-22. Has a chance to creep into the late lottery if he continues to light it up all year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:48pm #442438
Mr. 19134Participant@JayNix, Remember I had Walker on my list of National Player of The Year Candidates like 3 months ago? And you said I was crazy for putting him on there over Kalin Lucas? Yeah well…I hate to say I told you so.
Kemba Walker > Kalin Lucas
Alec Burks > Corey Higgins
And wait for it here’s the other big one I predicted….
Perry Jones > Harrison Barnes
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:48pm #442449
Mr. 19134Participant@JayNix, Remember I had Walker on my list of National Player of The Year Candidates like 3 months ago? And you said I was crazy for putting him on there over Kalin Lucas? Yeah well…I hate to say I told you so.
Kemba Walker > Kalin Lucas
Alec Burks > Corey Higgins
And wait for it here’s the other big one I predicted….
Perry Jones > Harrison Barnes
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:48pm #442454
Mr. 19134Participant@JayNix, Remember I had Walker on my list of National Player of The Year Candidates like 3 months ago? And you said I was crazy for putting him on there over Kalin Lucas? Yeah well…I hate to say I told you so.
Kemba Walker > Kalin Lucas
Alec Burks > Corey Higgins
And wait for it here’s the other big one I predicted….
Perry Jones > Harrison Barnes
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:50pm #442450
JNixonParticipantLol, Walker won’t be close to winning P.O.Y. He’s not going to be a candidate over Kalin Lucas.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:50pm #442461
JNixonParticipantLol, Walker won’t be close to winning P.O.Y. He’s not going to be a candidate over Kalin Lucas.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:50pm #442466
JNixonParticipantLol, Walker won’t be close to winning P.O.Y. He’s not going to be a candidate over Kalin Lucas.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:51pm #442453
Mr. 19134ParticipantUncleBuckshot I gave him a lot of love coming into this season and had him in my top ten list for National Player of Year Candidate. Walker really played well towards the end of last season and I could just see his potential ready to explode. He was the lone bright spot on Uconn last year. His numbers will come back down to earth but I still expect him to be averaging over 20 and 7.
With that said I still think Maalik Waynes is a better pro prospect.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:51pm #442464
Mr. 19134ParticipantUncleBuckshot I gave him a lot of love coming into this season and had him in my top ten list for National Player of Year Candidate. Walker really played well towards the end of last season and I could just see his potential ready to explode. He was the lone bright spot on Uconn last year. His numbers will come back down to earth but I still expect him to be averaging over 20 and 7.
With that said I still think Maalik Waynes is a better pro prospect.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:51pm #442469
Mr. 19134ParticipantUncleBuckshot I gave him a lot of love coming into this season and had him in my top ten list for National Player of Year Candidate. Walker really played well towards the end of last season and I could just see his potential ready to explode. He was the lone bright spot on Uconn last year. His numbers will come back down to earth but I still expect him to be averaging over 20 and 7.
With that said I still think Maalik Waynes is a better pro prospect.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:52pm #442456
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantSlow down people. Kemba Walker went HAM on Witcha State.
I always thought he was underrated but he’s not a lotto pick AT ALL. I agree with my amigo in the T.J. Ford comparison.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:52pm #442467
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantSlow down people. Kemba Walker went HAM on Witcha State.
I always thought he was underrated but he’s not a lotto pick AT ALL. I agree with my amigo in the T.J. Ford comparison.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:52pm #442471
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantSlow down people. Kemba Walker went HAM on Witcha State.
I always thought he was underrated but he’s not a lotto pick AT ALL. I agree with my amigo in the T.J. Ford comparison.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:53pm #442462
Mr. 19134ParticipantJayNix now is not really the time to be saying that when Walker is shooting over 50% and averaging 30 ppg and Lucas is shooting a horriffic 37% while averaging 11 ppg.
Walker is a hands down better prospect/player then Lucas and is just stuck on a bad team.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:53pm #442473
Mr. 19134ParticipantJayNix now is not really the time to be saying that when Walker is shooting over 50% and averaging 30 ppg and Lucas is shooting a horriffic 37% while averaging 11 ppg.
Walker is a hands down better prospect/player then Lucas and is just stuck on a bad team.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:53pm #442477
Mr. 19134ParticipantJayNix now is not really the time to be saying that when Walker is shooting over 50% and averaging 30 ppg and Lucas is shooting a horriffic 37% while averaging 11 ppg.
Walker is a hands down better prospect/player then Lucas and is just stuck on a bad team.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:57pm #442485
Mr. 19134ParticipantHe is a better scorer then TJ Ford but I do agree with the comparison. And Ford was a top ten pick so doesn’t that really feed into what we’re saying?
I don’t kno if Walker is a lotto pick but he will be drafted anywhere from the 10-20 range.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:57pm #442493
Mr. 19134ParticipantHe is a better scorer then TJ Ford but I do agree with the comparison. And Ford was a top ten pick so doesn’t that really feed into what we’re saying?
I don’t kno if Walker is a lotto pick but he will be drafted anywhere from the 10-20 range.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:57pm #442498
Mr. 19134ParticipantHe is a better scorer then TJ Ford but I do agree with the comparison. And Ford was a top ten pick so doesn’t that really feed into what we’re saying?
I don’t kno if Walker is a lotto pick but he will be drafted anywhere from the 10-20 range.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:59pm #442490
JNixonParticipant"JayNix now is not really the time to be saying that when Walker is shooting over 50% and averaging 30 ppg and Lucas is shooting a horriffic 37% while averaging 11 ppg."
Now is also not the time to be blowing a guy who plays for a team that will be on the bubble at the end of the year as opposed to a guy who is the most experienced PG in the nation and is playing on the 2nd best team in college basketball. It’s also not the time to be on the nuts of a guy who’s 1st 3 games have come against Stony Brook, Vermont, and Wichita State. It’s also important to remember UConn has played 3 games, and Michigan State has played 2. Kinda pointless to bring up stats when those stats are skewed due to the amount of games played, or lack thereof.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:59pm #442499
JNixonParticipant"JayNix now is not really the time to be saying that when Walker is shooting over 50% and averaging 30 ppg and Lucas is shooting a horriffic 37% while averaging 11 ppg."
Now is also not the time to be blowing a guy who plays for a team that will be on the bubble at the end of the year as opposed to a guy who is the most experienced PG in the nation and is playing on the 2nd best team in college basketball. It’s also not the time to be on the nuts of a guy who’s 1st 3 games have come against Stony Brook, Vermont, and Wichita State. It’s also important to remember UConn has played 3 games, and Michigan State has played 2. Kinda pointless to bring up stats when those stats are skewed due to the amount of games played, or lack thereof.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:59pm #442504
JNixonParticipant"JayNix now is not really the time to be saying that when Walker is shooting over 50% and averaging 30 ppg and Lucas is shooting a horriffic 37% while averaging 11 ppg."
Now is also not the time to be blowing a guy who plays for a team that will be on the bubble at the end of the year as opposed to a guy who is the most experienced PG in the nation and is playing on the 2nd best team in college basketball. It’s also not the time to be on the nuts of a guy who’s 1st 3 games have come against Stony Brook, Vermont, and Wichita State. It’s also important to remember UConn has played 3 games, and Michigan State has played 2. Kinda pointless to bring up stats when those stats are skewed due to the amount of games played, or lack thereof.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:59pm #442494
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantHe is a better scorer then TJ Ford but I do agree with the comparison. And Ford was a top ten pick so doesn’t that really feed into what we’re saying?
Wasn’t Ford the NPOY as a Senior? Also, Ford was a top 10 pick but never a top 10 talent. Looking back at that draft, he probably falls out the top 10.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:59pm #442502
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantHe is a better scorer then TJ Ford but I do agree with the comparison. And Ford was a top ten pick so doesn’t that really feed into what we’re saying?
Wasn’t Ford the NPOY as a Senior? Also, Ford was a top 10 pick but never a top 10 talent. Looking back at that draft, he probably falls out the top 10.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:59pm #442507
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantHe is a better scorer then TJ Ford but I do agree with the comparison. And Ford was a top ten pick so doesn’t that really feed into what we’re saying?
Wasn’t Ford the NPOY as a Senior? Also, Ford was a top 10 pick but never a top 10 talent. Looking back at that draft, he probably falls out the top 10.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:01pm #442497
McWinningParticipantWichita state, is a great defensive, who have consistantly been good, and should make the tourney this year.
He does play a lot like T.j Ford.
I still think Ford would have been a beast if injuries didnt hit.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:01pm #442505
McWinningParticipantWichita state, is a great defensive, who have consistantly been good, and should make the tourney this year.
He does play a lot like T.j Ford.
I still think Ford would have been a beast if injuries didnt hit.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:01pm #442510
McWinningParticipantWichita state, is a great defensive, who have consistantly been good, and should make the tourney this year.
He does play a lot like T.j Ford.
I still think Ford would have been a beast if injuries didnt hit.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:08pm #442503
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantWichita state, is a great defensive, who have consistantly been good, and should make the tourney this year.
There’s not gonna make it this year, I’m willing to bet that. They went 17-17 last season.
Also, T.J. Ford wouldn’t have been a beast. Probably good but not a beast.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:08pm #442511
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantWichita state, is a great defensive, who have consistantly been good, and should make the tourney this year.
There’s not gonna make it this year, I’m willing to bet that. They went 17-17 last season.
Also, T.J. Ford wouldn’t have been a beast. Probably good but not a beast.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:08pm #442516
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantWichita state, is a great defensive, who have consistantly been good, and should make the tourney this year.
There’s not gonna make it this year, I’m willing to bet that. They went 17-17 last season.
Also, T.J. Ford wouldn’t have been a beast. Probably good but not a beast.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:10pm #442506
Mr. 19134ParticipantMr. Knick you may be too young to remember TJ Ford looking like a 6 foot version of John Wall in college basketball, Ford had eyes in the back of his head, was the fastest player in the nation, and use to go coast to coast for highlight dunks. He came into the league with as much potential as any PG and had it not been for injuries was a surefire All Star.
And JayNix I have been hyping Walker up for half a year now. And You are right Uconn is a bubble team but he is the best player and leader of that team. MSU got a ton of talent and Summers if the best player on the team. Plus MSU played 3 games and Lucas has looked really bad in all 3.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:10pm #442514
Mr. 19134ParticipantMr. Knick you may be too young to remember TJ Ford looking like a 6 foot version of John Wall in college basketball, Ford had eyes in the back of his head, was the fastest player in the nation, and use to go coast to coast for highlight dunks. He came into the league with as much potential as any PG and had it not been for injuries was a surefire All Star.
And JayNix I have been hyping Walker up for half a year now. And You are right Uconn is a bubble team but he is the best player and leader of that team. MSU got a ton of talent and Summers if the best player on the team. Plus MSU played 3 games and Lucas has looked really bad in all 3.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:10pm #442519
Mr. 19134ParticipantMr. Knick you may be too young to remember TJ Ford looking like a 6 foot version of John Wall in college basketball, Ford had eyes in the back of his head, was the fastest player in the nation, and use to go coast to coast for highlight dunks. He came into the league with as much potential as any PG and had it not been for injuries was a surefire All Star.
And JayNix I have been hyping Walker up for half a year now. And You are right Uconn is a bubble team but he is the best player and leader of that team. MSU got a ton of talent and Summers if the best player on the team. Plus MSU played 3 games and Lucas has looked really bad in all 3.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:11pm #442509
hiphopismylifeParticipantNixon’s probably right, NPOY might be a stretch for Walker. I like him better than Kalin Lucas but I just don’t see UConn having the kind of year he would need in order to win that award. I don’t see Lucas winning it either but time will tell. As for Walker in the draft, yeah hes probably in the mid to late first range but somebody could easily fall in love with him in the lotto. Hes an incredible leader and has that IT factor that very few point guard prospects have. There is no risk with him because he will compete from day one. That performance was unbelievable. It really reminded me of DWade in the ’06 Finals. Just play after play in a row, refusing to let his team give up. I love watching him play.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:11pm #442517
hiphopismylifeParticipantNixon’s probably right, NPOY might be a stretch for Walker. I like him better than Kalin Lucas but I just don’t see UConn having the kind of year he would need in order to win that award. I don’t see Lucas winning it either but time will tell. As for Walker in the draft, yeah hes probably in the mid to late first range but somebody could easily fall in love with him in the lotto. Hes an incredible leader and has that IT factor that very few point guard prospects have. There is no risk with him because he will compete from day one. That performance was unbelievable. It really reminded me of DWade in the ’06 Finals. Just play after play in a row, refusing to let his team give up. I love watching him play.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:11pm #442522
hiphopismylifeParticipantNixon’s probably right, NPOY might be a stretch for Walker. I like him better than Kalin Lucas but I just don’t see UConn having the kind of year he would need in order to win that award. I don’t see Lucas winning it either but time will tell. As for Walker in the draft, yeah hes probably in the mid to late first range but somebody could easily fall in love with him in the lotto. Hes an incredible leader and has that IT factor that very few point guard prospects have. There is no risk with him because he will compete from day one. That performance was unbelievable. It really reminded me of DWade in the ’06 Finals. Just play after play in a row, refusing to let his team give up. I love watching him play.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:12pm #442512
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantMr. Knick you may be too young to remember TJ Ford looking like a 6 foot version of John Wall in college basketball, Ford had eyes in the back of his head, was the fastest player in the nation, and use to go coast to coast for highlight dunks. He came into the league with as much potential as any PG and had it not been for injuries was a surefire All Star.
I WAS THE ONE WHO REMINDED YOU HE WAS NPOY AS A SENIOR. WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Besides, I said looking back, he wouldn’t have been a top 10 pick today. There were players picked after him who were better.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:12pm #442520
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantMr. Knick you may be too young to remember TJ Ford looking like a 6 foot version of John Wall in college basketball, Ford had eyes in the back of his head, was the fastest player in the nation, and use to go coast to coast for highlight dunks. He came into the league with as much potential as any PG and had it not been for injuries was a surefire All Star.
I WAS THE ONE WHO REMINDED YOU HE WAS NPOY AS A SENIOR. WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Besides, I said looking back, he wouldn’t have been a top 10 pick today. There were players picked after him who were better.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:12pm #442525
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantMr. Knick you may be too young to remember TJ Ford looking like a 6 foot version of John Wall in college basketball, Ford had eyes in the back of his head, was the fastest player in the nation, and use to go coast to coast for highlight dunks. He came into the league with as much potential as any PG and had it not been for injuries was a surefire All Star.
I WAS THE ONE WHO REMINDED YOU HE WAS NPOY AS A SENIOR. WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Besides, I said looking back, he wouldn’t have been a top 10 pick today. There were players picked after him who were better.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:12pm #442515
Mr. 19134ParticipantJayNix I will admit that Meechy is playing great basketball right now and Illinois looks like a legit top ten team. But they are not better then Villanova and Corey Fisher and Waynes are both better PG’s.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:12pm #442523
Mr. 19134ParticipantJayNix I will admit that Meechy is playing great basketball right now and Illinois looks like a legit top ten team. But they are not better then Villanova and Corey Fisher and Waynes are both better PG’s.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:12pm #442528
Mr. 19134ParticipantJayNix I will admit that Meechy is playing great basketball right now and Illinois looks like a legit top ten team. But they are not better then Villanova and Corey Fisher and Waynes are both better PG’s.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:21pm #442521
JoeWolf1Mr Knick, WSU is a veteran team who is very good defensively and has good size, they are a serious threat to win the MVC conference tourney this year. Don’t sell the MVC short, they put out some good teams for a mid major
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:21pm #442529
JoeWolf1Mr Knick, WSU is a veteran team who is very good defensively and has good size, they are a serious threat to win the MVC conference tourney this year. Don’t sell the MVC short, they put out some good teams for a mid major
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:21pm #442534
JoeWolf1Mr Knick, WSU is a veteran team who is very good defensively and has good size, they are a serious threat to win the MVC conference tourney this year. Don’t sell the MVC short, they put out some good teams for a mid major
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:23pm #442524
JNixonParticipantI don’t see Lucas winning NPOY either. I never predicted him to be the winner. But to say Kemba Walker has a better chance is silly. UConn is nowhere near a good enough team to do that. If you have a NPOY level player on your team and you play with at least decent talent like UConn has, your team shouldn’t be on the bubble.
Also, Durrell Summers is the most talented player on Michigan State. But Lucas is the leader and best player. I can’t be the only person that read where Mr.19134 said Summers is the best player on Michigan State and found that to be a ridiculously stupid statement.
Reading your statement about Lucas playing bad in all 3 games shows that you haven’t watched Michigan State play. They have only played 2 games. And in the 1st game, Lucas played very well. He didn’t even play bad in the 2nd game overall. He just didn’t make his jump shots off the dribble from mid-range. He did everything else at his usual level.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:23pm #442532
JNixonParticipantI don’t see Lucas winning NPOY either. I never predicted him to be the winner. But to say Kemba Walker has a better chance is silly. UConn is nowhere near a good enough team to do that. If you have a NPOY level player on your team and you play with at least decent talent like UConn has, your team shouldn’t be on the bubble.
Also, Durrell Summers is the most talented player on Michigan State. But Lucas is the leader and best player. I can’t be the only person that read where Mr.19134 said Summers is the best player on Michigan State and found that to be a ridiculously stupid statement.
Reading your statement about Lucas playing bad in all 3 games shows that you haven’t watched Michigan State play. They have only played 2 games. And in the 1st game, Lucas played very well. He didn’t even play bad in the 2nd game overall. He just didn’t make his jump shots off the dribble from mid-range. He did everything else at his usual level.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:23pm #442538
JNixonParticipantI don’t see Lucas winning NPOY either. I never predicted him to be the winner. But to say Kemba Walker has a better chance is silly. UConn is nowhere near a good enough team to do that. If you have a NPOY level player on your team and you play with at least decent talent like UConn has, your team shouldn’t be on the bubble.
Also, Durrell Summers is the most talented player on Michigan State. But Lucas is the leader and best player. I can’t be the only person that read where Mr.19134 said Summers is the best player on Michigan State and found that to be a ridiculously stupid statement.
Reading your statement about Lucas playing bad in all 3 games shows that you haven’t watched Michigan State play. They have only played 2 games. And in the 1st game, Lucas played very well. He didn’t even play bad in the 2nd game overall. He just didn’t make his jump shots off the dribble from mid-range. He did everything else at his usual level.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:24pm #442527
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantNot selling them short at all. They went 17-17 last season and I’m willing to take the bet they don’t get in the NCAA tourney. I’m sure they are a good defensive team ( teams like WSU and SIU are).
I used to love it to see like Southern Illinois do thier thing.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:24pm #442535
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantNot selling them short at all. They went 17-17 last season and I’m willing to take the bet they don’t get in the NCAA tourney. I’m sure they are a good defensive team ( teams like WSU and SIU are).
I used to love it to see like Southern Illinois do thier thing.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:24pm #442540
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantNot selling them short at all. They went 17-17 last season and I’m willing to take the bet they don’t get in the NCAA tourney. I’m sure they are a good defensive team ( teams like WSU and SIU are).
I used to love it to see like Southern Illinois do thier thing.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:25pm #442533
JNixonParticipantAnd Maalik Wayns and Corey Fisher haven’t looked like better PG’s than McCamey at all so far. They actually havem’t looked like better PG’s than McCamey since last year, when McCamey became Illinois starting PG.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:25pm #442541
JNixonParticipantAnd Maalik Wayns and Corey Fisher haven’t looked like better PG’s than McCamey at all so far. They actually havem’t looked like better PG’s than McCamey since last year, when McCamey became Illinois starting PG.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:25pm #442545
JNixonParticipantAnd Maalik Wayns and Corey Fisher haven’t looked like better PG’s than McCamey at all so far. They actually havem’t looked like better PG’s than McCamey since last year, when McCamey became Illinois starting PG.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:27pm #442536
Demarcus OnealParticipantso Kemba Walker lit it up in two games so he is better then Kalin Lucas who is coming off an achilles injury honestly your saying he is going to be the NPOY after 3 games. Lucas didnt need to put up big stats since his team won two blowouts and wait until Lucas puts up 20 shots this season before bringing in fied goal percentages up. Well when tey play enxt round we will see that Lucas is better then Kemba Walker
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:27pm #442544
Demarcus OnealParticipantso Kemba Walker lit it up in two games so he is better then Kalin Lucas who is coming off an achilles injury honestly your saying he is going to be the NPOY after 3 games. Lucas didnt need to put up big stats since his team won two blowouts and wait until Lucas puts up 20 shots this season before bringing in fied goal percentages up. Well when tey play enxt round we will see that Lucas is better then Kemba Walker
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:27pm #442549
Demarcus OnealParticipantso Kemba Walker lit it up in two games so he is better then Kalin Lucas who is coming off an achilles injury honestly your saying he is going to be the NPOY after 3 games. Lucas didnt need to put up big stats since his team won two blowouts and wait until Lucas puts up 20 shots this season before bringing in fied goal percentages up. Well when tey play enxt round we will see that Lucas is better then Kemba Walker
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:33pm #442553
JoeWolf1I gotcha, I just think it’s way too early to count them out, I think they’re a 20-23win team who probably won’t get an at large bid, but is still a team very capable of nabbing the MVC automaic bid
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:33pm #442558
JoeWolf1I gotcha, I just think it’s way too early to count them out, I think they’re a 20-23win team who probably won’t get an at large bid, but is still a team very capable of nabbing the MVC automaic bid
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:33pm #442563
JoeWolf1I gotcha, I just think it’s way too early to count them out, I think they’re a 20-23win team who probably won’t get an at large bid, but is still a team very capable of nabbing the MVC automaic bid
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:37pm #442556
Mr. 19134ParticipantLike i said you don’t remember Ford. Ford was only a sophomore when he was a NPOY candidate. Ford entered the draft after his sophomore year.
Ford averaged like 15 points, 8 assists and over 2 steals his 2nd and last year in college. During that draft the Heat were even looking at him with the 5th pick because he was thought the be the next best true PG. Ford’s court vision use to be insane and in college he made a lot of Jason Kidd like passes while making Steve Francis type athletic plays. Some people even went as far as to calling him the true PG version of Iverson.
If he was a sophomore PG out of Texas entering one of these recent drafts he is still a top ten pick. There is not doubt that in ’09 he would of been drafted ahead of Jonny Flynn.
And Meechy is putting up better numbers but in more minutes and he has the ball in his hands the whole game. Fisher and Waynes have to share the ball because they are both great guards. I can’t even argue about Meechy shooting 60% from the field thus far tho. But he still isn’t anywhere near the level of defender Fisher and Waynes are.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:37pm #442561
Mr. 19134ParticipantLike i said you don’t remember Ford. Ford was only a sophomore when he was a NPOY candidate. Ford entered the draft after his sophomore year.
Ford averaged like 15 points, 8 assists and over 2 steals his 2nd and last year in college. During that draft the Heat were even looking at him with the 5th pick because he was thought the be the next best true PG. Ford’s court vision use to be insane and in college he made a lot of Jason Kidd like passes while making Steve Francis type athletic plays. Some people even went as far as to calling him the true PG version of Iverson.
If he was a sophomore PG out of Texas entering one of these recent drafts he is still a top ten pick. There is not doubt that in ’09 he would of been drafted ahead of Jonny Flynn.
And Meechy is putting up better numbers but in more minutes and he has the ball in his hands the whole game. Fisher and Waynes have to share the ball because they are both great guards. I can’t even argue about Meechy shooting 60% from the field thus far tho. But he still isn’t anywhere near the level of defender Fisher and Waynes are.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:37pm #442566
Mr. 19134ParticipantLike i said you don’t remember Ford. Ford was only a sophomore when he was a NPOY candidate. Ford entered the draft after his sophomore year.
Ford averaged like 15 points, 8 assists and over 2 steals his 2nd and last year in college. During that draft the Heat were even looking at him with the 5th pick because he was thought the be the next best true PG. Ford’s court vision use to be insane and in college he made a lot of Jason Kidd like passes while making Steve Francis type athletic plays. Some people even went as far as to calling him the true PG version of Iverson.
If he was a sophomore PG out of Texas entering one of these recent drafts he is still a top ten pick. There is not doubt that in ’09 he would of been drafted ahead of Jonny Flynn.
And Meechy is putting up better numbers but in more minutes and he has the ball in his hands the whole game. Fisher and Waynes have to share the ball because they are both great guards. I can’t even argue about Meechy shooting 60% from the field thus far tho. But he still isn’t anywhere near the level of defender Fisher and Waynes are.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:41pm #442568
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantWell, I viewed his final season. I mistakenly thought he was a Senior simply because of that. What does the 09 draft have to do with anything?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:41pm #442573
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantWell, I viewed his final season. I mistakenly thought he was a Senior simply because of that. What does the 09 draft have to do with anything?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:41pm #442578
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantWell, I viewed his final season. I mistakenly thought he was a Senior simply because of that. What does the 09 draft have to do with anything?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:41pm #442574
Mr. 19134Participant@Demarcus Oneal I have always thought Walker was better then Lucas and wasn’t going to say anything untill I saw this post I couldn’t resist.
Granted Lucas plays on a better team with a better coach and more talent but Walker has a bigger individual impact of the 2 when they are on the court. That is why Walker will be drafted in the 12-20 range and Lucas will be a 2nd rounder next year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:41pm #442579
Mr. 19134Participant@Demarcus Oneal I have always thought Walker was better then Lucas and wasn’t going to say anything untill I saw this post I couldn’t resist.
Granted Lucas plays on a better team with a better coach and more talent but Walker has a bigger individual impact of the 2 when they are on the court. That is why Walker will be drafted in the 12-20 range and Lucas will be a 2nd rounder next year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:41pm #442584
Mr. 19134Participant@Demarcus Oneal I have always thought Walker was better then Lucas and wasn’t going to say anything untill I saw this post I couldn’t resist.
Granted Lucas plays on a better team with a better coach and more talent but Walker has a bigger individual impact of the 2 when they are on the court. That is why Walker will be drafted in the 12-20 range and Lucas will be a 2nd rounder next year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:41pm #442577
JNixonParticipant"And Meechy is putting up better numbers but in more minutes and he has the ball in his hands the whole game. Fisher and Waynes have to share the ball because they are both great guards. I can’t even argue about Meechy shooting 60% from the field thus far tho. But he still isn’t anywhere near the level of defender Fisher and Waynes are."
Isn’t a PG supposed to have the ball in his hands when they’re in the game? Fisher and Wayns share the ball because Fisher is a combo guard who’s trying to show scouts that he can be a PG too. Your argument changed from Fisher and Wayns are better PG’S than McCamey to "he still isn’t anywhere near the defender they are". I know he’s not, but that doesn’t mean Fisher and Wayns are NPOY candidates over him or better PG’s. smh
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:41pm #442582
JNixonParticipant"And Meechy is putting up better numbers but in more minutes and he has the ball in his hands the whole game. Fisher and Waynes have to share the ball because they are both great guards. I can’t even argue about Meechy shooting 60% from the field thus far tho. But he still isn’t anywhere near the level of defender Fisher and Waynes are."
Isn’t a PG supposed to have the ball in his hands when they’re in the game? Fisher and Wayns share the ball because Fisher is a combo guard who’s trying to show scouts that he can be a PG too. Your argument changed from Fisher and Wayns are better PG’S than McCamey to "he still isn’t anywhere near the defender they are". I know he’s not, but that doesn’t mean Fisher and Wayns are NPOY candidates over him or better PG’s. smh
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:41pm #442587
JNixonParticipant"And Meechy is putting up better numbers but in more minutes and he has the ball in his hands the whole game. Fisher and Waynes have to share the ball because they are both great guards. I can’t even argue about Meechy shooting 60% from the field thus far tho. But he still isn’t anywhere near the level of defender Fisher and Waynes are."
Isn’t a PG supposed to have the ball in his hands when they’re in the game? Fisher and Wayns share the ball because Fisher is a combo guard who’s trying to show scouts that he can be a PG too. Your argument changed from Fisher and Wayns are better PG’S than McCamey to "he still isn’t anywhere near the defender they are". I know he’s not, but that doesn’t mean Fisher and Wayns are NPOY candidates over him or better PG’s. smh
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:44pm #442580
Mr. 19134ParticipantThanks okay Knickboy ’03 was a long time ago so you made an easy mistake but coming out as a sophomore as compared to coming out as a senior is a big deal as sophomores has the highest percentage of becoming stars. (its true you can google it.) But you said Ford wouldn’t be drafted that high in a draft nowadays and I think he would be drafted just as high. Ford was the type of prospect coming out of college that would never drop out of the top ten and I said ’09 because for example I think he is a better prospect then Flynn was coming out.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:44pm #442585
Mr. 19134ParticipantThanks okay Knickboy ’03 was a long time ago so you made an easy mistake but coming out as a sophomore as compared to coming out as a senior is a big deal as sophomores has the highest percentage of becoming stars. (its true you can google it.) But you said Ford wouldn’t be drafted that high in a draft nowadays and I think he would be drafted just as high. Ford was the type of prospect coming out of college that would never drop out of the top ten and I said ’09 because for example I think he is a better prospect then Flynn was coming out.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:44pm #442590
Mr. 19134ParticipantThanks okay Knickboy ’03 was a long time ago so you made an easy mistake but coming out as a sophomore as compared to coming out as a senior is a big deal as sophomores has the highest percentage of becoming stars. (its true you can google it.) But you said Ford wouldn’t be drafted that high in a draft nowadays and I think he would be drafted just as high. Ford was the type of prospect coming out of college that would never drop out of the top ten and I said ’09 because for example I think he is a better prospect then Flynn was coming out.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:46pm #442583
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantNo, I said if we redid that draft today, he probably wouldn’t be taken as high as he did in 03 with what we know.
Also, that sophomore success thing is DROPPING because of James Harden lol
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:46pm #442588
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantNo, I said if we redid that draft today, he probably wouldn’t be taken as high as he did in 03 with what we know.
Also, that sophomore success thing is DROPPING because of James Harden lol
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:46pm #442593
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantNo, I said if we redid that draft today, he probably wouldn’t be taken as high as he did in 03 with what we know.
Also, that sophomore success thing is DROPPING because of James Harden lol
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:46pm #442589
leppyParticipantis a career backup pg. he is too wild and out of control on offense. not a high basketball iq. not a good passer, not a good shooter.
uvm’s pg are 5’7” and 5’11” and the 5’7” one is better but neither are going to being playing overseas.
stonybrook’s pg is a slow 6’0” whiteboy that is just a good shooter thats it.
as a american east fan i know plenty about these two teams and lighting them up means nothing.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:46pm #442594
leppyParticipantis a career backup pg. he is too wild and out of control on offense. not a high basketball iq. not a good passer, not a good shooter.
uvm’s pg are 5’7” and 5’11” and the 5’7” one is better but neither are going to being playing overseas.
stonybrook’s pg is a slow 6’0” whiteboy that is just a good shooter thats it.
as a american east fan i know plenty about these two teams and lighting them up means nothing.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:46pm #442598
leppyParticipantis a career backup pg. he is too wild and out of control on offense. not a high basketball iq. not a good passer, not a good shooter.
uvm’s pg are 5’7” and 5’11” and the 5’7” one is better but neither are going to being playing overseas.
stonybrook’s pg is a slow 6’0” whiteboy that is just a good shooter thats it.
as a american east fan i know plenty about these two teams and lighting them up means nothing.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:47pm #442595
JNixonParticipant"Granted Lucas plays on a better team with a better coach and more talent but Walker has a bigger individual impact of the 2 when they are on the court. That is why Walker will be drafted in the 12-20 range and Lucas will be a 2nd rounder next year."
What about last year? When Walker had Jerome Dyson and Stanley Robinson on his team and they still only made the NIT? Last year’s UConn team was probably more talented than last year’s Michigan State team, and Michigan State was a Final 4 team. They possiblyly would’ve been in the title game with a healthy Kalin Lucas too.
Walker is going to be a top 20 pick and Lucas is a late 1st runder at best because Walker has more athleticism and will have a more seamless adjustment to the NBA because of it. It has nothing to do with right now, because Lucas does a better job of running a team than Walker does as of right now.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:47pm #442600
JNixonParticipant"Granted Lucas plays on a better team with a better coach and more talent but Walker has a bigger individual impact of the 2 when they are on the court. That is why Walker will be drafted in the 12-20 range and Lucas will be a 2nd rounder next year."
What about last year? When Walker had Jerome Dyson and Stanley Robinson on his team and they still only made the NIT? Last year’s UConn team was probably more talented than last year’s Michigan State team, and Michigan State was a Final 4 team. They possiblyly would’ve been in the title game with a healthy Kalin Lucas too.
Walker is going to be a top 20 pick and Lucas is a late 1st runder at best because Walker has more athleticism and will have a more seamless adjustment to the NBA because of it. It has nothing to do with right now, because Lucas does a better job of running a team than Walker does as of right now.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:47pm #442604
JNixonParticipant"Granted Lucas plays on a better team with a better coach and more talent but Walker has a bigger individual impact of the 2 when they are on the court. That is why Walker will be drafted in the 12-20 range and Lucas will be a 2nd rounder next year."
What about last year? When Walker had Jerome Dyson and Stanley Robinson on his team and they still only made the NIT? Last year’s UConn team was probably more talented than last year’s Michigan State team, and Michigan State was a Final 4 team. They possiblyly would’ve been in the title game with a healthy Kalin Lucas too.
Walker is going to be a top 20 pick and Lucas is a late 1st runder at best because Walker has more athleticism and will have a more seamless adjustment to the NBA because of it. It has nothing to do with right now, because Lucas does a better job of running a team than Walker does as of right now.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:49pm #442602
leppyParticipantboth players as backup pg’s in the second round
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:49pm #442606
leppyParticipantboth players as backup pg’s in the second round
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:49pm #442610
leppyParticipantboth players as backup pg’s in the second round
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:51pm #442608
JNixonParticipantWalker is a future starter PG probably. I don’t think he’s a better PG than Lucas right now, but he will be in the NBA. Walker has starter potential in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:51pm #442612
JNixonParticipantWalker is a future starter PG probably. I don’t think he’s a better PG than Lucas right now, but he will be in the NBA. Walker has starter potential in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:51pm #442616
JNixonParticipantWalker is a future starter PG probably. I don’t think he’s a better PG than Lucas right now, but he will be in the NBA. Walker has starter potential in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:56pm #442614
Mr. 19134ParticipantKnicksboy like seriously? Are you serious? What we know 7 years after the draft? You can do that with any draft. And all we know is he sufferers from the injury bug because talent wise he is still a top ten pick. And he still might go in the lottery in that draft.
JayNix I think Dyson stinks and Robinson will probably never do anything in the NBA. Robinson is just a hustle player and MSU had a way deeper and talented team. As they still do. Plus they have way better coaching.
And Fisher only has to play off ball at times because Waynes is so good. It doesn’t mean he is not a good PG it means he is versatile. If Waynes didn’t play on that team Fisher is looking at averages of 20 and 6.5 assists. He is a very underrated playmaker. That was the point I am trying to make.
And Nix have you ate your words about Burks and Higgins yet? Is it not obvious Burks is the best player on that team and is a true scorer instead of just a transition threat?
And how right was I about Harrison Barnes? Is their any reason for UNC to be 2-2 right now while Baylor is undefeated without Dunn?
I told you Jones was more important to that team then Dunn this year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:56pm #442618
Mr. 19134ParticipantKnicksboy like seriously? Are you serious? What we know 7 years after the draft? You can do that with any draft. And all we know is he sufferers from the injury bug because talent wise he is still a top ten pick. And he still might go in the lottery in that draft.
JayNix I think Dyson stinks and Robinson will probably never do anything in the NBA. Robinson is just a hustle player and MSU had a way deeper and talented team. As they still do. Plus they have way better coaching.
And Fisher only has to play off ball at times because Waynes is so good. It doesn’t mean he is not a good PG it means he is versatile. If Waynes didn’t play on that team Fisher is looking at averages of 20 and 6.5 assists. He is a very underrated playmaker. That was the point I am trying to make.
And Nix have you ate your words about Burks and Higgins yet? Is it not obvious Burks is the best player on that team and is a true scorer instead of just a transition threat?
And how right was I about Harrison Barnes? Is their any reason for UNC to be 2-2 right now while Baylor is undefeated without Dunn?
I told you Jones was more important to that team then Dunn this year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:56pm #442622
Mr. 19134ParticipantKnicksboy like seriously? Are you serious? What we know 7 years after the draft? You can do that with any draft. And all we know is he sufferers from the injury bug because talent wise he is still a top ten pick. And he still might go in the lottery in that draft.
JayNix I think Dyson stinks and Robinson will probably never do anything in the NBA. Robinson is just a hustle player and MSU had a way deeper and talented team. As they still do. Plus they have way better coaching.
And Fisher only has to play off ball at times because Waynes is so good. It doesn’t mean he is not a good PG it means he is versatile. If Waynes didn’t play on that team Fisher is looking at averages of 20 and 6.5 assists. He is a very underrated playmaker. That was the point I am trying to make.
And Nix have you ate your words about Burks and Higgins yet? Is it not obvious Burks is the best player on that team and is a true scorer instead of just a transition threat?
And how right was I about Harrison Barnes? Is their any reason for UNC to be 2-2 right now while Baylor is undefeated without Dunn?
I told you Jones was more important to that team then Dunn this year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:57pm #442625
Mr. 19134Participantleppy that is why you will never be an NBA GM among a number of other reasons. You are crazy and will be proven wrong come draft time and next year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:57pm #442617
Mr. 19134Participantleppy that is why you will never be an NBA GM among a number of other reasons. You are crazy and will be proven wrong come draft time and next year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 1:57pm #442621
Mr. 19134Participantleppy that is why you will never be an NBA GM among a number of other reasons. You are crazy and will be proven wrong come draft time and next year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:03pm #442626
JNixonParticipant"JayNix I think Dyson stinks and Robinson will probably never do anything in the NBA. Robinson is just a hustle player and MSU had a way deeper and talented team. As they still do. Plus they have way better coaching."
Dyson was a solid contributor when A.J. Price ran the offense though, and Robinson was a key contributor was productive last year and was a contributor with A.J. Price around too. Why couldn’t they mesh with Walker last year? I’m sure they would’ve played well with Kalin Lucas.
"And Nix have you ate your words about Burks and Higgins yet? Is it not obvious Burks is the best player on that team and is a true scorer instead of just a transition threat?
And how right was I about Harrison Barnes? Is their any reason for UNC to be 2-2 right now while Baylor is undefeated without Dunn?
I told you Jones was more important to that team then Dunn this year."
I’ll eat my words when they play more than 3 games man. There are like 30 games in a season. Baylor has played 3 games, and 2 of them were against teams that probably will have losing records at the end of the year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:03pm #442631
JNixonParticipant"JayNix I think Dyson stinks and Robinson will probably never do anything in the NBA. Robinson is just a hustle player and MSU had a way deeper and talented team. As they still do. Plus they have way better coaching."
Dyson was a solid contributor when A.J. Price ran the offense though, and Robinson was a key contributor was productive last year and was a contributor with A.J. Price around too. Why couldn’t they mesh with Walker last year? I’m sure they would’ve played well with Kalin Lucas.
"And Nix have you ate your words about Burks and Higgins yet? Is it not obvious Burks is the best player on that team and is a true scorer instead of just a transition threat?
And how right was I about Harrison Barnes? Is their any reason for UNC to be 2-2 right now while Baylor is undefeated without Dunn?
I told you Jones was more important to that team then Dunn this year."
I’ll eat my words when they play more than 3 games man. There are like 30 games in a season. Baylor has played 3 games, and 2 of them were against teams that probably will have losing records at the end of the year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:03pm #442623
JNixonParticipant"JayNix I think Dyson stinks and Robinson will probably never do anything in the NBA. Robinson is just a hustle player and MSU had a way deeper and talented team. As they still do. Plus they have way better coaching."
Dyson was a solid contributor when A.J. Price ran the offense though, and Robinson was a key contributor was productive last year and was a contributor with A.J. Price around too. Why couldn’t they mesh with Walker last year? I’m sure they would’ve played well with Kalin Lucas.
"And Nix have you ate your words about Burks and Higgins yet? Is it not obvious Burks is the best player on that team and is a true scorer instead of just a transition threat?
And how right was I about Harrison Barnes? Is their any reason for UNC to be 2-2 right now while Baylor is undefeated without Dunn?
I told you Jones was more important to that team then Dunn this year."
I’ll eat my words when they play more than 3 games man. There are like 30 games in a season. Baylor has played 3 games, and 2 of them were against teams that probably will have losing records at the end of the year.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:05pm #442630
JNixonParticipant"And Fisher only has to play off ball at times because Waynes is so good. It doesn’t mean he is not a good PG it means he is versatile. If Waynes didn’t play on that team Fisher is looking at averages of 20 and 6.5 assists. He is a very underrated playmaker. That was the point I am trying to make."
Fisher plays off the ball alot because Fisher is a combo guard. Not because Wayns is "so good" lol. He’s also not as much of a PG as Wayns is.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:05pm #442632
JNixonParticipant"And Fisher only has to play off ball at times because Waynes is so good. It doesn’t mean he is not a good PG it means he is versatile. If Waynes didn’t play on that team Fisher is looking at averages of 20 and 6.5 assists. He is a very underrated playmaker. That was the point I am trying to make."
Fisher plays off the ball alot because Fisher is a combo guard. Not because Wayns is "so good" lol. He’s also not as much of a PG as Wayns is.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:05pm #442637
JNixonParticipant"And Fisher only has to play off ball at times because Waynes is so good. It doesn’t mean he is not a good PG it means he is versatile. If Waynes didn’t play on that team Fisher is looking at averages of 20 and 6.5 assists. He is a very underrated playmaker. That was the point I am trying to make."
Fisher plays off the ball alot because Fisher is a combo guard. Not because Wayns is "so good" lol. He’s also not as much of a PG as Wayns is.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:05pm #442633
Demarcus OnealParticipantI agree Walker is a best NBA prospect but Lucas is the better player now and if you need prove look at the last 3 years of Michigan State basketball and please explain to me how have a good coach makes you any worse of a player
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:05pm #442635
Demarcus OnealParticipantI agree Walker is a best NBA prospect but Lucas is the better player now and if you need prove look at the last 3 years of Michigan State basketball and please explain to me how have a good coach makes you any worse of a player
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:05pm #442639
Demarcus OnealParticipantI agree Walker is a best NBA prospect but Lucas is the better player now and if you need prove look at the last 3 years of Michigan State basketball and please explain to me how have a good coach makes you any worse of a player
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:22pm #442658
Lotto StudParticipantAlthough Kemba is my fav college PG I know for a fact, he will not go in the lottery due to the "TALENT/HYPE" of the other guards who are rated ahead of him. I am not surprised at all by his performance, because I already knew he would be capable of playing at a HIGH INTENSE level, especially if he worked on his J. He already has the quickness and acceleration to beat his man off the dribble and get to the rack.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:22pm #442663
Lotto StudParticipantAlthough Kemba is my fav college PG I know for a fact, he will not go in the lottery due to the "TALENT/HYPE" of the other guards who are rated ahead of him. I am not surprised at all by his performance, because I already knew he would be capable of playing at a HIGH INTENSE level, especially if he worked on his J. He already has the quickness and acceleration to beat his man off the dribble and get to the rack.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:22pm #442671
Lotto StudParticipantAlthough Kemba is my fav college PG I know for a fact, he will not go in the lottery due to the "TALENT/HYPE" of the other guards who are rated ahead of him. I am not surprised at all by his performance, because I already knew he would be capable of playing at a HIGH INTENSE level, especially if he worked on his J. He already has the quickness and acceleration to beat his man off the dribble and get to the rack.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:32pm #442670
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0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:32pm #442675
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0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:32pm #442683
stanford hoopsnate robinson
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:50pm #442703
The Splash DocParticipantWill be a solid back up PG IMO he is more under control and is using his speed is ways I never thought he would. at 5’11/6’0 he is a pesky defender gets into the offensive player and he also is very athletic teams like New York, Charlotte, Detroit and Miami should make a move after him in the draft I see as a back up but he could be a solid starter if he is in the right system.
Max Potential- Tim Hardaway
Most Likely- Poor mans Rondo, better shot, less passing ability, same defensive tenacity
Bust Potential- Smush Parker
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:50pm #442707
The Splash DocParticipantWill be a solid back up PG IMO he is more under control and is using his speed is ways I never thought he would. at 5’11/6’0 he is a pesky defender gets into the offensive player and he also is very athletic teams like New York, Charlotte, Detroit and Miami should make a move after him in the draft I see as a back up but he could be a solid starter if he is in the right system.
Max Potential- Tim Hardaway
Most Likely- Poor mans Rondo, better shot, less passing ability, same defensive tenacity
Bust Potential- Smush Parker
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 2:50pm #442717
The Splash DocParticipantWill be a solid back up PG IMO he is more under control and is using his speed is ways I never thought he would. at 5’11/6’0 he is a pesky defender gets into the offensive player and he also is very athletic teams like New York, Charlotte, Detroit and Miami should make a move after him in the draft I see as a back up but he could be a solid starter if he is in the right system.
Max Potential- Tim Hardaway
Most Likely- Poor mans Rondo, better shot, less passing ability, same defensive tenacity
Bust Potential- Smush Parker
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:38pm #442758
Cardinal_FanParticipantWalker over Lucas all day, I think Kalin Lucas is a lil overrated. Dont get me wrong he is a good college basketball player but as far as nba potential there is nothing that really stands out about him, plus obviously he is injury prone. Kemba Walker has speed and quickness to burn he toys with defenders, and if they were 2 swith teams i think Michigan St. would be favored over Duke.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:38pm #442760
Cardinal_FanParticipantWalker over Lucas all day, I think Kalin Lucas is a lil overrated. Dont get me wrong he is a good college basketball player but as far as nba potential there is nothing that really stands out about him, plus obviously he is injury prone. Kemba Walker has speed and quickness to burn he toys with defenders, and if they were 2 swith teams i think Michigan St. would be favored over Duke.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:38pm #442772
Cardinal_FanParticipantWalker over Lucas all day, I think Kalin Lucas is a lil overrated. Dont get me wrong he is a good college basketball player but as far as nba potential there is nothing that really stands out about him, plus obviously he is injury prone. Kemba Walker has speed and quickness to burn he toys with defenders, and if they were 2 swith teams i think Michigan St. would be favored over Duke.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:51pm #442767
Meditated StatesParticipantI want to see what he does in Big East play before I get hyped up on his recent play though. He is a pro IMO 8 to 14 I just don’t know if I would consider him that hie right now though. I am a fan though I like the way he gets in the lane and plays D.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:51pm #442769
Meditated StatesParticipantI want to see what he does in Big East play before I get hyped up on his recent play though. He is a pro IMO 8 to 14 I just don’t know if I would consider him that hie right now though. I am a fan though I like the way he gets in the lane and plays D.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:51pm #442780
Meditated StatesParticipantI want to see what he does in Big East play before I get hyped up on his recent play though. He is a pro IMO 8 to 14 I just don’t know if I would consider him that hie right now though. I am a fan though I like the way he gets in the lane and plays D.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:55pm #442770
hiphopismylifeParticipantHaha Dyson stinks?? He wasn’t without his flaws but 17, 4, and 4 is pretty good the last I cheacked.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:55pm #442771
hiphopismylifeParticipantHaha Dyson stinks?? He wasn’t without his flaws but 17, 4, and 4 is pretty good the last I cheacked.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 3:55pm #442783
hiphopismylifeParticipantHaha Dyson stinks?? He wasn’t without his flaws but 17, 4, and 4 is pretty good the last I cheacked.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 4:24pm #442797
FastAndFuriousParticipantLol OOoo now we got bandwagon hoppers again haha ppl were just writing him off two weeks ago saying he was a 2nd round pick and now all of a sudden people are all over him again, been here since day one I knew he was good enough to have a dominant year
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 4:24pm #442799
FastAndFuriousParticipantLol OOoo now we got bandwagon hoppers again haha ppl were just writing him off two weeks ago saying he was a 2nd round pick and now all of a sudden people are all over him again, been here since day one I knew he was good enough to have a dominant year
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 4:24pm #442810
FastAndFuriousParticipantLol OOoo now we got bandwagon hoppers again haha ppl were just writing him off two weeks ago saying he was a 2nd round pick and now all of a sudden people are all over him again, been here since day one I knew he was good enough to have a dominant year
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 4:29pm #442808
FastAndFuriousParticipantWoah slow down Lucas quickness and open court speed certainly translates to the NBA
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 4:29pm #442812
FastAndFuriousParticipantWoah slow down Lucas quickness and open court speed certainly translates to the NBA
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 4:29pm #442822
FastAndFuriousParticipantWoah slow down Lucas quickness and open court speed certainly translates to the NBA
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 6:20pm #442915
dragons12Participantlets just settle this. both of these point guards will never ever be dcent starters int the nba. both will be backups but kemba will be better than lucas. there are soooo much more with nba potential rather than these two
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 6:20pm #442926
dragons12Participantlets just settle this. both of these point guards will never ever be dcent starters int the nba. both will be backups but kemba will be better than lucas. there are soooo much more with nba potential rather than these two
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 6:20pm #442941
dragons12Participantlets just settle this. both of these point guards will never ever be dcent starters int the nba. both will be backups but kemba will be better than lucas. there are soooo much more with nba potential rather than these two
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/23/2010 - 2:46am #443075
hiphopismylifeParticipantI strongly disagree with that. Kemba Walker can be a starter in the NBA. It’s so annoying when people say NBA potential all the time. WTF does that really mean?? It’s a factor sometimes but people act like every 6’3 freshman combo guard out there will be a better pro than guys like this who are proving that they can run a team.These are two of the best pg’s in the nation. Walker is small but he still has considerable potential. Where are alllllll these guys with so much more NBA potential? I only see a couple.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/23/2010 - 2:46am #443083
hiphopismylifeParticipantI strongly disagree with that. Kemba Walker can be a starter in the NBA. It’s so annoying when people say NBA potential all the time. WTF does that really mean?? It’s a factor sometimes but people act like every 6’3 freshman combo guard out there will be a better pro than guys like this who are proving that they can run a team.These are two of the best pg’s in the nation. Walker is small but he still has considerable potential. Where are alllllll these guys with so much more NBA potential? I only see a couple.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/23/2010 - 2:46am #443099
hiphopismylifeParticipantI strongly disagree with that. Kemba Walker can be a starter in the NBA. It’s so annoying when people say NBA potential all the time. WTF does that really mean?? It’s a factor sometimes but people act like every 6’3 freshman combo guard out there will be a better pro than guys like this who are proving that they can run a team.These are two of the best pg’s in the nation. Walker is small but he still has considerable potential. Where are alllllll these guys with so much more NBA potential? I only see a couple.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/26/2010 - 12:43pm #444724
Mr. 19134ParticipantSorry I’m a lil late but Kemba Walker just ate up Kentucky Wed Night…Is Kentucky and Brandon Knight a good enough team to whip up on before you start understanding Walker’s coming of age.?
And if there is a bandwagon for Walker I’m driving it, I have been hyping Walker up for a long time.
Kemba played really well in the 2nd half of last season and got better with every game, I knew if he could carry that momemtum into this season and be a leader you would be looking at one of the most improved guards in the nation. One on One Lucas don’t stand a chance against Walker.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/26/2010 - 12:43pm #444732
Mr. 19134ParticipantSorry I’m a lil late but Kemba Walker just ate up Kentucky Wed Night…Is Kentucky and Brandon Knight a good enough team to whip up on before you start understanding Walker’s coming of age.?
And if there is a bandwagon for Walker I’m driving it, I have been hyping Walker up for a long time.
Kemba played really well in the 2nd half of last season and got better with every game, I knew if he could carry that momemtum into this season and be a leader you would be looking at one of the most improved guards in the nation. One on One Lucas don’t stand a chance against Walker.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/26/2010 - 12:43pm #444740
Mr. 19134ParticipantSorry I’m a lil late but Kemba Walker just ate up Kentucky Wed Night…Is Kentucky and Brandon Knight a good enough team to whip up on before you start understanding Walker’s coming of age.?
And if there is a bandwagon for Walker I’m driving it, I have been hyping Walker up for a long time.
Kemba played really well in the 2nd half of last season and got better with every game, I knew if he could carry that momemtum into this season and be a leader you would be looking at one of the most improved guards in the nation. One on One Lucas don’t stand a chance against Walker.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/26/2010 - 6:29pm #444998
midwestbbscoutParticipantI would like to go on record as saying that Kemba would’ve been the #2 PG in the 2010 draft…..
who’s always right???? and you can’t say Hypnotoad b/c he is God…..
All Hail You Lord Hypnotoad….
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/26/2010 - 6:29pm #444999
midwestbbscoutParticipantI would like to go on record as saying that Kemba would’ve been the #2 PG in the 2010 draft…..
who’s always right???? and you can’t say Hypnotoad b/c he is God…..
All Hail You Lord Hypnotoad….
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/26/2010 - 6:29pm #445009
midwestbbscoutParticipantI would like to go on record as saying that Kemba would’ve been the #2 PG in the 2010 draft…..
who’s always right???? and you can’t say Hypnotoad b/c he is God…..
All Hail You Lord Hypnotoad….
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/26/2010 - 6:29pm #445020
midwestbbscoutParticipantI would like to go on record as saying that Kemba would’ve been the #2 PG in the 2010 draft…..
who’s always right???? and you can’t say Hypnotoad b/c he is God…..
All Hail You Lord Hypnotoad….
0 - Posted on: Mon, 04/04/2011 - 5:31pm #518082
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantJNixon
You want to take anything you said back? Lmao
0 - Posted on: Mon, 04/04/2011 - 7:34pm #518135
butidonthavemoneySometimes people are wrong.
Kemba Walker was better than most of us thought he would be. Good for him.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/01/2011 - 1:03am #538593
BasketballGuruwow, so much hate for kemba walker
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/01/2011 - 2:59am #538609
uconn1ParticipantIf not for Kemba Walker being superman, the following would not have happened –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFnQXT68zL4
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