[whateverParticipant]

In the nba.com rookie ladder Kemba Walker is ahead of Brandon Knight. After looking at their stats I couldnt help to notice that at least exclusively on stats Knight should be definetely be ahead of Walker.

Knight 12.1ppg, 3.6 rpg, 3,1apg, .448%Fg, .417%3p, .875%Ft, team record 3-11

Walker 11.5ppg, 3rpg, 3.3apg, .387%Fg, .340%3p, .738%Ft, team record 3-12

What do you think?

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 You forgot to add Knight 3.3 turnovers per game and 30.9 MPG

Walker 1.7 turnovers per game and 24.2 minutes per game

I’m picking Walker

[B FreeParticipant]

 @youngdave good call I was about to say the same thing also that Kemba is behind Augustin.

[whateverParticipant]

Thats true I just noticed that, however I still think Knights shooting efficiency is a lot better than Kembas and that doesnt depend on mpg. However I can see ur point, its actually a close call considering turnovers per game.

[B FreeParticipant]

 I wouldn’t say its that close seeing how turnovers out weigh FG% for PGs

[apb540Participant]

I think Knight is still the better player by quite a large margin. 

[B FreeParticipant]

There numbers if they both played starter minutes or 36 per game,

Kemba 17.2pts 4.9asts 4.2 rebs 1.7stls 2.5 TO

Knight 14.1pts 3.6asts 4.2 rebs 1.1stls 3.8 TO

[joecheck88Participant]

I think Kemba is a better player right now but what Knight is doing right now is impressive considering he was a one and done. Kemba was in school 3 years. Knight is bigger, will probably shoot better over the long run, his turnovers should lower as he gets more experience. They are both having good rookie years though.

[whateverParticipant]

And Irving stats for 36 minutes

22.8pts, 6.7assists, 4.5 rebs, 1 steal while shooting an amazing .486% FG damn this kid is good and all of it at 19.

[JoeWolf1]

 Kemba has been starting lately and putting up 17.3 ppg 5 apg 4.3 rpg and 2.7 spg with only 2 TO

It’s only been the last 3 games, but he’s been playing really well during that stretch.

[M-DYMESParticipant]

"however I still think Knights shooting efficiency is a lot better than Kembas and that doesnt depend on mpg."

 

Sure it does.  If you play more minutes you’re shot attempts are going to go up and that desn’t necessarily mean you’re hitting the same % of those chances.

[apb540Participant]

I do not like these stats of what a player "would do" in a large amount of playing time. It’s why there are so many dam Anthony Randolph lovers on here and is as misleading as a stat gets. 

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

so I’m picking him if I had to choose between them, it’s too early to say who’ll be a better pro, I do belive Brandon will make a huge jump in the next year or 2…

[bdiddy5115Participant]

Knight is the more efficient scorer, but Kemba is the more dynamic player.

[river09Participant]

 Kemba was never accused of being an efficient scorer in college either so seeing him shoot under 40% in the NBA shouldn’t come as all that big of a surprise… I don’t see that stat getting much better though, and that will definitely hurt him in the long run…

[M-DYMESParticipant]

Not to mention the more substantial minutes you play, the more fatigue you will build up.  When players are tired, shooting %s tend to drop which would drop their staistical efficiency.  So again, despite the negs, just b/c you have a certain shooting % doesn’t mean you would hit that same % of shots if you played more minutes. 

Critical Thinking…don’t just look at things by face value.

[PulseGlazerParticipant]

Notable to me at least, both Thorpe and Hollinger argue that high turnovers for rookies suggest a great level of future growth.  That in mind, longterm at least, I’ll take Knight.

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