Kelly Olynyk goes hard in the paint
More of a post up threat than Zeller, Len, Noel, Plumlee, Bennett, Withey, Gobert, Dieng and just about everyone in the entire mock.
What do you think his ceiling is?
Looking like a lock in the first round right now... 28 points on 68fg% per 40 mins. The dude impacts the game A TON, even when he's not scoring he impacts the offense, his passing, on/off-ball screens are Massive as he is a legit 7 footer who is wide. Very high IQ.
Big knock is his athleticism, he's bad when it comes to running the floor, but he is a scoring machine in the block.
I just saw he was voted player of the week in the Mid major blog.... i started this thread before I even saw that, hand to god.
What happened in Canada in the '90 years?
2 NBA franchises, however feeble, and some the product of some laid back immigrations policies brought in a couple generations ago. Hockey is expensive as &$#%#&@!, so a lot of Canada's athletes are jumping to the hardwood. And it's awesome.
Olynyk offensive versatility and nice touch in the post,reminds me alot of former Pistons ''Bad Boy'' Bill Laimbeer.....But he doesnt have Laimbeer's nastiness,rebounding prowess nor his ability to frustrate the hell out of players.......Olynyk's 2 biggest knocks are his defense and paltry rebounding numbers...But if he can learn how to use that added muscle he gained while he sat out a year....To push players around inside and keep players out of the lane on defense,similar to what Perkins did for Boston.... He could become a sleeper......
"He could become a sleper"
My dude, he is a sleeper. You said best in a previous post, his stock could surpass Plumlee's.
I'm really liking Olynyk... He was a wing who grew into a big, I like these type of players.
I think his jumpshot is gonna make huge strides, I seen some HS film... his shot is weT.
He reminds me a little of Marc Gasol
He's not nearly as big or physical as Marc. Marc can body C's with very little effort.
Olynyk has gotten stronger but I don't think he'll be able to physically impose himself on the opposition at the next level like he can in college.
I think he'll have to revert to being more of a finesse big at the next level. Maybe a Nenad Krstic type with a better hustle game.
Not nearly as big? he's 7'0 240... Gasol is 7'1 260. Olynyk is 8 years younger.
Bodying C's is OVERRATED. John Henson is spotting the 5 for the Bucks.
No way is Gasol 260. He's an immovable object in the paint. Easily one of the strongest C's in the game due to sheer mass. It wasn't long ago that he was pushing 3 bills and it wasn't just fat. He's got a naturally big, heavy frame.
And no, bodying C's in the paint is not overrated. It's called establishing position. Establishing position is important for post play on both ends of the floor as well as holding position for rebounds. If you want to be a post player like Gasol you better be able to drop anchor and hold your position.
Olynyk doesn't have the frame to be as big as Gasol is. It wasn't long ago that he was a thin 220 lb stretch 4. He's close to his threshold without experiencing diminishing athletic returns.
Marc Gasol; Wikipedia 270lbs. ESPN 265lbs.
Are you seriously gonna explain to me what establishing position is?????? Kelly will not have problem bodying people. Sure he might struggle against the elite, but who doesn't.
"It wasn't long ago that he was a thin 220 lb stretch 4"... How many players are thin and become big. Olynyk is on that path.
No, I'm explaining to you the difference in mass and why Gasol's mass makes him special. Gasol is massive with ELITE body strength. I don't think Olynyk could ever get to that level physically even if he tried.
Olynyk is close to maxing out physically in terms of mass. Anything more and he'll be even less athletic than he already is. The rest of his physical progression will likely be tightening up and adding strength via lower body and core.
ALRIGHT BRO, HE DOESNT PLAY SIMILAR TO GASOL BECAUSE GASOL HAS 25lbs ON HIM. even though Gasol has 8 years on him and is a GROWN MAN.
Yes, Gasol has at least 25 lbs on him. LBs that Kelly likely won''t be able to make up without losing whatever athleticism he already has.
I'll put it this way. Meyers Leonard is 7'1 250 lbs of muscle, stronger than Kelly and still gets pushed off the block in the NBA.
Mayers Leonard has a lower center of gravity and is ultimately a Rookie.
I'll put it this way. Nikola Vucevic is 7'0 240 and is getting 11rpg.
Marcin Gortat is 6'11 240. Tyson Chandler is 7'1 250.
A lower center of gravity would actually help.
Yeah and none of them have the post presence that Gasol has.
25lbs that Kelly wont be able to put up? Why are you so sure?
He didn't play all last year, he can get in better shape without loosing strenght/ mass.
Say he puts on 10/15 lbs... is 10 lbs really making world difference.
*Higher* center of gravity!!!
Olynyk post presence is excellent.
Sure, for a college player.
I'll be interested to see how Kelly measures out in terms of length as well. Just using an eye test, it looks pretty ordinary and could be a reason why his rebounding and shotblocking rates are pretty pedestrian for a 7'er.
If Kelly's post-up game doesn't translate, then who's post up game translates (in the entire draft)?
I never said his post up game doesn't or won't translate. I just think that his and M.Gasol's level of physicality and ability to establish position aren't similar, which is why I disagree with your comparison. I don't think Olynyk will ever match the physicality that Gasol has. Gasol's physicality, combined with his level of skill is what makes him special.
Maybe Len because of his combination footwork and length. With his length he'd still be able to get his shot over the defense even if he got pushed away from the bucket, a la L.Aldridge. Plus he's still a thin 240 so he's got more room for physical growth.
Well, true Gasol is naturally more of a banger than Olynyk. But when it comes to post play, PASSING, shooting, IQ, athleticism, setting excellent screens, moving without the ball, it all reminds me of Marc Gasol.
That's it, Kansas game about to start, I'm gonna drop the subject... to each their own.
Side note: After Olynyk, the most sklled post player in the draft could very well be Dario Saric, who i forgot about in the OP.
its honestly crazy how much olynyk has chanced since 2 years ago, he really was an austin daye type player for gonzaga back then. he was a skinny wing player who liked to float, play like he was afraid of contact, and shoot jumpers, its honestly weird seeing him as this 7' center who looked like he lifted all the weights and plays down low. impressive