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@ Hale: absolutely, he's not

@ Hale: absolutely, he's not fast enough to cover NBA SF's and probably not big enough to cover NBA PF's. He's good in offense but I keep comparing him to Carmelo, a black hole on offense who needs the ball in his hands to be effective.

Yes he can carry a team on his back, bu the doesn't make anyone on his team better. Being like Carmelo isn't bad, but you can't win a championship with a player like that.

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Jabari is far from a black

Jabari is far from a black hole on offense and he doesn't need the ball to be effective. That is what seperates him from the Melo comparison. He's more like a PP because his floor game is phenomenal for his age (which is another thing he has over Wiggins). If opposing teams double him or he sucks in the defense he WILL find his teammates. He moves well without the ball, he can set up shop and be effective from different spots on the floor and he's perfectly capable of catch-n-shooting. He is a scorer and playmaker, while Melo is and always has been just a scorer. Jabari has the potential to have a more positive impact on his team than Melo because of his floor game.

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I agree with everything you

I agree with everything you said 100%.

This kid's floor game blew me away considering how young he is. Definitely makes me switch my comparison from Melo to Pierce. I think his size and pull up just reminds me of Melo (looks like he could even play a little stretch 4 in the league maybe?), but his floor game is definitely more similar to Pierce.

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"What is scary is how polished Randle and Parker are. They both have iso games already. They both can dominate on their own already. If Wiggins is going to be the No.1 overall pick over them, he needs to be more than an athletic dude who can dunk. He has to really show that improvement, because what Jabari and Randle are doing is no fluke. "

" also have to say since watching Jabari Parker more and more, his lack of athleticism has been greatly exaggerated. He may not be the athlete that Wiggins, but he's not as bad as everyone has made him out to be"

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iso games

I feel like everyone already knew Randle and Parker had a much more developed iso game than Wiggins. I was thoroughly impressed with how fast Wiggins was end to end and although some people dimished his game due to his points from fast breaks ...points are still points and at any level if you can beat your man down the floor to get easy buckets thats a coveted skill. The important thing with Wiggins and his potential number 1 pick status is how is he going to improve through the course of this year? If he shows incredible improvement from a skillset standpoint along with his athletic abilities than hes the clearcut number 1 in my mind. The other two are incredibly skilled and they can refine their games this year, whereas Wiggins has the chance to completely redefine it (due to having a weaker iso game in the first place).

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iso games

I feel like everyone already knew Randle and Parker had a much more developed iso game than Wiggins. I was thoroughly impressed with how fast Wiggins was end to end and although some people dimished his game due to his points from fast breaks ...points are still points and at any level if you can beat your man down the floor to get easy buckets thats a coveted skill. The important thing with Wiggins and his potential number 1 pick status is how is he going to improve through the course of this year? If he shows incredible improvement from a skillset standpoint along with his athletic abilities than hes the clearcut number 1 in my mind. The other two are incredibly skilled and they can refine their games this year, whereas Wiggins has the chance to completely redefine it (due to having a weaker iso game in the first place).

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And can people stop

And can people stop posting

"Wait till you see Wiggins in March and how much better he is..."

As if Parker and Randle have a lesser chance of improving between now and then.

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The point is not how much

The point is not how much they'll improve in March, the point is how good will each of them be at the end of rookie contract. That's the point you're missing. That's what GMs are looking at.

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First of all the athletic

First of all Wiggins athletic ability is without question. Every single expert and scout that has seen him has said that his athletic ability off the charts and youtube can lie but if you watch the highlights he can jump out of gym his second jump is quickest I have ever seen. Right now he is still thinking and just not playing. When you do that your full abilities are never on display. As the season goes on he will get more comfortable and will make more wow plays I am sure. If you watch both sides of the ball you will see that he has lateral quickness is just as good as his running speed.

People have to stop looking at one side of the ball only. Jabari and Randle cannot guard at all and while scoring is sexy. Winners play defence. Wiggins switched himself on to Jabari when the he asked to cover and the coach said no. He begged to cover Parker all game and coaching staff was against it so he took upon himself. That is a winner, that is what will make him special, especially as he gets stronger he will completley lock guys up on the perimiter.

Yes Parker will continue to improve as well Randle. Randle has better chance of being good defender than Parker simply because he should be able to to do a solid job if he wants to guard 4's. Parker may struggle more having to cover 3's I haven't seen the lateral quicks to stay in front 3's similar to the way Carmelo struggles. Defence is about desire and Wiggins is the only one of the 3 that cares about it.

I look at it this way. Carmelo is a better scorer than Lebron as good as LBJ is so is Durant. LBJ still the player you want because he better player all around. Wiggins to me is same arguement. Wiggins will be able to help whatever team he is on win more ways than Randle, Parker. I think his jump shot will improve as will his handle. His willingness to do the less sexy parts of the game will seperate them. He scores 22 points in 25 mins without dominating the ball that isn't easy. As skill and confidence increase sky is the limit.

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exactly Mr Wolf

He was good without ball for the most part took good shots and his team one. Through all the times I seen Wiggins play highlights all star games, aau whatever I have never seen him come down and break a guy off or do too much creating off the dribble. He uses what works for him the little spin move. that step back. Running the lanes. So why guys re expecting him to all of a sudden be Some TMac clone with tons of moves I really don't know at all. What I think happened here is many people underestimated Parker whos team lost the game btw.

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