[flybobbyflyParticipant]

 Can anyone tell me why Kelly Oubre is considered such a high potential player and Justin Anderson is considered to be a low potential player? 

I see Anderson as having a much lower floor than Oubre and just as high of a ceiling. I can see a possibility that Oubres skills don’t develop and he is out of the league in 5 years, whereas I feel Anderson will be in the league as at least a roll player for 10 years because of his hustle, defense, and outside shot. 

Neither one is a strong ball handler at this point. Oubre is younger, but Anderson has shown work ethic and improvement every single year of college, while Oubre seems to give off a sense of entitlement. 

Maybe some people think Oubre has Durant potential, I don’t see it. 

In todays NBA where Danny Green, Demarre Carrol, Draymond Green, and Jae Crowder are all about to get paid near max contracts, I feel like Anderson is being slept on because I feel like he will become that type of two way player. He is an absolute tank with a 40+ inch vertical at 6’6". If he continues to wrok and improve at the level he has the last few years I think he will be a great player. 

But honestly I’ve been high on him since I saw him dunking all over kids when he was 16 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TheLastWordParticipant]

 Players who do nothing their first two years generally bust, the track record speaks for itself. Anderson has athleticism but no offensive game to go along with it. His incredibly low steal rate doesn’t hint at a good defender, rather, a lazy one.

 

[TheLastWordParticipant]

 Players who do nothing their first two years generally bust, the track record speaks for itself. Anderson has athleticism but no offensive game to go along with it. His incredibly low steal rate doesn’t hint at a good defender, rather, a lazy one.

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 Justin Anderson was a 3 year college player who only broke out shooting the 3 ball this past season.  I think he’ll have a long career as a 3 and D player.  However how much potential does he have beyond that?  Oubre on the other hand is a one and done prospect.  He’s only scratching the surface and could be a star if he develops.  But like you said if he doesn’t develop he could be out of the league.  I think Anderson is the safer pick while Oubre looks like a boom or bust. 

Also I don’t know why you think Danny Green or Jae Crowder would get near max deals.  They are nice players but won’t get big deals like Draymond and Carroll will.  

[flybobbyflyParticipant]

 

Anderson doesn’t have to be James Harden dribbling at the top of the key and calling isolation plays. He can attack a closeout, he gets to the line, he has pick and pop/roll potential, not to even mention putback dunks and backdoor alleyoops. The dude plays hard and goes to the rim strong. Calling him strictly a 3 and D player I feel is inaccurate.

He may not become a big time facilitator or a focal point on offense, but I’m not going to say that he can’t either. A year ago nobody would have thought he could shoot 45 percent from 3 for a season. 

I feel like sleeping on the potential of upperclassmen is getting ridiculous. Think Chandler Parsons. Oubre has a lot more to fix than Anderson does, and he doesn’t have the same attitude or work ethic. 

I feel green is going 12mil per year and Crowder will get around 9-10. That’s pretty damn good when you consider what a lot of people thought their potential was as upperclassmen entering the draft. 

 

 

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 Fair enough but I kind of wonder how good of a shooter Anderson actually is.  He jumped from 29% to 45% from deep last year but can he be consistant shooting it in the NBA.   I think that has to be on the mind of scouts and GMs.  Age may be over stated but it also has some merit when you have to wonder how much a player is going to improve.  That’s why to me he’s more likely to be a solid role player than a star, making him the safer pick.  

 Oubre is athletic and has a solid frame that can fill out over time.  He’s younger and while he probably won’t be ready to contribute day one has a lot of room to grow.  He’s a risk because he doesn’t have the skills at this point but he showed a good touch shooting the ball at Kansas.  He also showed flashes of his potential on both offense and defense.  I liked he didn’t pout when he didn’t get a ton of playing time at the beginning of the year.  Instead he showed maturity and eventually worked his way into the starting lineup.  He’s oozing potential and it’s up to him to put in the work to be great.  

So to me if you’re talking about drafting outside of the lottery  it depends on the team.   They need to weigh immediate contribution vs. taking on a project.  I think Justin Anderson is what he is but Oubre isn’t a finished product.  I see Anderson as a mid-1st round pick while Oubre is a lottery talent.  

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 Fair enough but I kind of wonder how good of a shooter Anderson actually is.  He jumped from 29% to 45% from deep last year but can he be consistant shooting it in the NBA.   I think that has to be on the mind of scouts and GMs.  Age may be over stated but it also has some merit when you have to wonder how much a player is going to improve.  That’s why to me he’s more likely to be a solid role player than a star, making him the safer pick.  

 Oubre is athletic and has a solid frame that can fill out over time.  He’s younger and while he probably won’t be ready to contribute day one has a lot of room to grow.  He’s a risk because he doesn’t have the skills at this point but he showed a good touch shooting the ball at Kansas.  He also showed flashes of his potential on both offense and defense.  I liked he didn’t pout when he didn’t get a ton of playing time at the beginning of the year.  Instead he showed maturity and eventually worked his way into the starting lineup.  He’s oozing potential and it’s up to him to put in the work to be great.  

So to me if you’re talking about drafting outside of the lottery  it depends on the team.   They need to weigh immediate contribution vs. taking on a project.  I think Justin Anderson is what he is but Oubre isn’t a finished product.  I see Anderson as a mid-1st round pick while Oubre is a lottery talent.  

 

[flybobbyflyParticipant]

 

Anderson doesn’t have to be James Harden dribbling at the top of the key and calling isolation plays. He can attack a closeout, he gets to the line, he has pick and pop/roll potential, not to even mention putback dunks and backdoor alleyoops. The dude plays hard and goes to the rim strong. Calling him strictly a 3 and D player I feel is inaccurate.

He may not become a big time facilitator or a focal point on offense, but I’m not going to say that he can’t either. A year ago nobody would have thought he could shoot 45 percent from 3 for a season. 

I feel like sleeping on the potential of upperclassmen is getting ridiculous. Think Chandler Parsons. Oubre has a lot more to fix than Anderson does, and he doesn’t have the same attitude or work ethic. 

I feel green is going 12mil per year and Crowder will get around 9-10. That’s pretty damn good when you consider what a lot of people thought their potential was as upperclassmen entering the draft. 

 

 

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 Justin Anderson was a 3 year college player who only broke out shooting the 3 ball this past season.  I think he’ll have a long career as a 3 and D player.  However how much potential does he have beyond that?  Oubre on the other hand is a one and done prospect.  He’s only scratching the surface and could be a star if he develops.  But like you said if he doesn’t develop he could be out of the league.  I think Anderson is the safer pick while Oubre looks like a boom or bust. 

Also I don’t know why you think Danny Green or Jae Crowder would get near max deals.  They are nice players but won’t get big deals like Draymond and Carroll will.  

[zer0d0ubt]

 Oubre already has the skills for a 10 year career as a 3 and D role player, and a lot more length than Anderson.

Any skill you can attribute to Anderson, you can attribute to Oubre, except Oubre hasn’t even filled out yet, or perhaps not even finished growing.

 

 

 

[flybobbyflyParticipant]

Oubre barely got on the court 20 mpg at Kansas. He has a long way to go before he is ready to play against the best in the world every night. Whoever drafts him better have confidence in their d-league teams ability to develop players.  He lacks IQ, consitent hustle on O and D, and polish. 

He looks like a guy who practices at half speed to me. When the game is on he isn’t ready to play that fast and he makes mistakes.

He is young and could develop, But I’d rather have my team draft Anderson. 

 

 

 

 

 

[flybobbyflyParticipant]

Oubre barely got on the court 20 mpg at Kansas. He has a long way to go before he is ready to play against the best in the world every night. Whoever drafts him better have confidence in their d-league teams ability to develop players.  He lacks IQ, consitent hustle on O and D, and polish. 

He looks like a guy who practices at half speed to me. When the game is on he isn’t ready to play that fast and he makes mistakes.

He is young and could develop, But I’d rather have my team draft Anderson. 

 

 

 

 

 

[zer0d0ubt]

 Oubre already has the skills for a 10 year career as a 3 and D role player, and a lot more length than Anderson.

Any skill you can attribute to Anderson, you can attribute to Oubre, except Oubre hasn’t even filled out yet, or perhaps not even finished growing.

 

 

 

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