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Junior JEREMY TYLER forgoes GRADE 12 TURNS PRO IN EUROPE -- LONG TERM REPROCUTIONS FOR THE NBA & NCAA

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Junior JEREMY TYLER forgoes GRADE 12 TURNS PRO IN EUROPE -- LONG TERM REPROCUTIONS FOR THE NBA & NCAA

WOW

WHAT MORE CAN I SAY

a high school junior turns pro! this is going to have long term reprocutions for the nba and ncaa.

it isn't that some random high school basketball player wants to skip college and play ball in europe, its that a top 10 JUNIOR recruit wants to leave. whats next grade 10!

the nba needs to get rid of there 1 year rule asap. yes it does help show some of the busts, but with europe offering so much TAX FREE money, who wouldn't go?!

what do you guys think?


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I dont get your point

Why would you get rid of it if people can get money out of it? College isnt for everybody, and high school isnt either so why scratch the rule? To stop players from getting money?

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how do you know

how do you know high school or college isn't for everyone is they don't even try?

its not stopping players from getting money, its being educated and taking up responsibility education wise. If you don't make it the NBA, what do you have? NOTHING. if you think all these players can get into the NBA- man you are so wrong.

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College

Seriously, you guys should read about the kinds of degrees and/or courses some of these "college" basketball players are taking. These guys take bull&$#%#&@! courses just to scrape by. Few if any graduate with honours or distinction. Seriously, how many former NBA players have you heard about becoming successful at something later in life which does not employ their former fame and basketball abilities? Totally agree w/ Iguodala; Let people make money in Europe,it would probably give even better preparation for highschoolers to succeed in the NBA over there because they are playing and living with MEN instead of boys in college.

As for Korean Cabbage...
your argument that people don't know college isn't for them if they don't try is flawed dude. I mean, people have limited time and effort. We can't do everything once or try it to see if it's for us or not for us. If people have not had homo erotic encounters, do they need to have one or a few to see it's for them? I think not.

also

Even if these kids do not make it into the NBA and pursue a college degree, chances are they won't be able to succeed in life anyway. As aforementioned, these kids get bull&$#%#&@! degrees. In fact some of these kids barely passed their highschool courses and they're attending Duke for Sociology? The kids who don't make it into the NBA will have little chance of being successful as they'll have no fame to bolster their crappy degrees.

to be fair...

these kids who don't make it into the NBA might be able to get jobs that use their degrees, but I doubt too many of them can possibly pass a GMAT or an MCAT exam and get into a professional graduate school or program.

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Tyler

I have to believe that going to one year of college would be no more productive than going to Europe for 2 years, as far as his long-term, post-basketball future is concerned. Very few of these kids go to college with the intention of developing any skills for a post-basketball career anyways.
J.Tyler has the right to do whatever he wants. I certainly doubt this becomes a trend though. Going to college away from home can be a hard enough adjustment on these kids. Imagine going to another country where no one speaks the same language as you, not to mention dealing with no longer being worshipped by all your friends and groupies everywhere you go.
I doubt the long-term "reprocutions" (I believe you mean repercussions) of this move will be very significant.

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Financial Decisions 101

When you ask what do these players walk away with if they go to Europe and don't make it to the NBA: probably at least $1 million, and the ability to return to the US and go to college.
What do they walk away with if they go to college and don't make it to the NBA: a future of about $40,000 a year.
So, financially, there is no question which is the smarter decision, is there?

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Great points and also we

Great points and also we talk about that language thing being an issues but a whole bunch of foreign players have came over here with the same problem and have been successful. The kid is already 6'11 and possibly growing. You give him 2 years to gain the skills that most European have added to his already Americanize game and size. That is a scary thought. He will probably make a million for his 2 years. Also every player can not do this. People are stupid if they think so nobody will and do this. The agent working this situation is not going help some bum go overseas for money and make him look bad. He is only trying to work with top high school talent like Jenning and now Jeremy Taylor. Also i look back at what I learned in my senior year of high school and honest if I could have bypassed that and made a quarter of a million dollar, I would do it in a second. I did not get any smarter that extra year. People who believe that are really stupid. I started getting smarter and more mature when I have to deal with life situation while I was in the military and it wasnt so much the military but the fact that I was on my own and making money and the problems that come with it.

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koreancabbage

you do realize if he or others dont make it they can always go back to college with the contracts they are signing and still have a couple hundred thousand or million...you telling me it makes more sense to go to college and not make the nba and or get hurt and not be able to go to europe either?

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mistake

sorry guys i think i might have worded what i meant wrong. i am saying that the nba is should get rid of there 1 year rule because this is what is gonna happen. i totally agree, i would leave in grade 11, get a fixed contract NO TAX and get piad. maybe 1/30,000 who try make the nba make it so might as well get some good money than anything else.

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I understand what you are

I understand what you are saying sb13 and do agree that with the age rule remove, less situation like this would arive.

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Pros and Cons to Going to Europe

Pros
- Large Contract
- Taxes paid by team
- Expenses (car, apartment, education, etc.) paid by team
- No restrictions on practice time
- Tougher competition

Cons
- Limited exposure
- Limited playing time
- Culture & language barriers

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To be honest, going to Europe is the best decision a talented prospect could make. While they may not get the exposure to the general public that they would through high school and college, NBA scouts are more than willing to make the journey to view these players. On top of this, there are multiple tournaments before the draft plus work outs that prospects can display their skills.

I don't think there will be repercussions for now. One hypothetical situation where there could be repercussions is as follows:

A 15 year old physically superior phenom (Mayo, Lebron, etc) who everyone knows is a no miss prospect is recruited to europe for a large contract for 5 years. The first 2 years may be rough, but by his third and fourth he dominates the local and Euroleague, producing buzz and excitement for this team (possibly producing profit). Not only does the player profit by making a large sum of money, expanding his skills beyond the one on one all AAU players learn, and developing his body to play against men, not just boys making him an potential an instant nba star. In this situation the team profits greatly as well, through the fan excitement and eventual nba buy out.

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I like that post blancs50.

I like that post blancs50. I feel like Taylor will do well. I am just hoping he does not get injuried. I feel like he could possibly turn himself a KG / Lamarcus Alrigde type player and the combination would be ridiculous in the NBA.

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