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- Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 6:05am #53002
Make’Em Say UGHParticipantHey guys, I mainly come to the site to read different posts but seeing Randle currently ranked 7th – I had to speak up! I just don’t see how a 19 year old freshman with 8 double-doubles out of 10 games will slide that far.
He’s averaging: 17.8 PPG 12 RPG & shooting on .538% from the field.
We know he has had his share of turnovers and forced his shot early on. I think he is playing a little too aggressive at times, but he is getting doubled and even tripled on a nightly basis. Thats not to make excuses, I think he will improve upon his judgement here as he is only 10 games into his freshman year.
Personally, I wouldn’t let him drop out of the top 3 in this year drafts – maybe 4 at the furthest. But he has potential to go as high as #1 or #2 depending on who’s drafting.
I’m trying to visualize him going #7 but it just doesn’t seem realistic.
I just don’t get why alot of users here are jumping off his bandwagon (just a little not alot) while the rest of the college world, coaches, reporters have him as possible National Player of the Year candidate?
Try not to judge this post based off my points lol (stemming from some Alex Len comments I made last year) but just looking for critical contructive feedback. All opinions welcome. Thanks!
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 6:16am #855911
Chilbert arenasParticipantI agree but the big board has been all over the place so far this year which means there is so much talent at top with little separation that it’s going to change week to week. I’ve watched LaVine play a few times and the kid is full of talent but I still wouldn’t take him over Randal at this point. Exum is a wild card since most of us haven’t see enough from him. Embiid had a huge rise but might come back to earth soon. Anything can happen but I’m with you on that I doubt Randal makes it out of the top 5.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 6:16am #855804
Chilbert arenasParticipantI agree but the big board has been all over the place so far this year which means there is so much talent at top with little separation that it’s going to change week to week. I’ve watched LaVine play a few times and the kid is full of talent but I still wouldn’t take him over Randal at this point. Exum is a wild card since most of us haven’t see enough from him. Embiid had a huge rise but might come back to earth soon. Anything can happen but I’m with you on that I doubt Randal makes it out of the top 5.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 6:31am #855913
surveParticipantI would have to get Randle before the 6th pick. I’m sorry. I dont get why people dont think he will be that good. He could bust but thats anyone. He needs to develop his right hand and get a better feel for the game, especially passing…but he is a brute. He is gonna get stronger and his range is going to improve. He may never be a great defender but I think he can be adequate. I have said this before but to me he looks like a more frenetic version of L.O. Definitely not as skilled overall as L.O. but he can have a similar type of game.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 6:31am #855806
surveParticipantI would have to get Randle before the 6th pick. I’m sorry. I dont get why people dont think he will be that good. He could bust but thats anyone. He needs to develop his right hand and get a better feel for the game, especially passing…but he is a brute. He is gonna get stronger and his range is going to improve. He may never be a great defender but I think he can be adequate. I have said this before but to me he looks like a more frenetic version of L.O. Definitely not as skilled overall as L.O. but he can have a similar type of game.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 6:34am #855808
TyroberParticipantHe is for sure top 5 imo. I think a lot of people are looking down at him because they think he won’t be as effective in the NBA since the guys will be the same size at him. I believe the others may have more potential and a higher ceiling so that is probably why you see him at #7 instead of top 5. Randle is clearly 100x better than Embiid right now, but the draft is about what people can become instead of what they are at right now.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 6:34am #855915
TyroberParticipantHe is for sure top 5 imo. I think a lot of people are looking down at him because they think he won’t be as effective in the NBA since the guys will be the same size at him. I believe the others may have more potential and a higher ceiling so that is probably why you see him at #7 instead of top 5. Randle is clearly 100x better than Embiid right now, but the draft is about what people can become instead of what they are at right now.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 7:12am #855814
RUDEBOY_Participantlol..Just goes to show the talent & depth of the 2014 Draft…Last year Randle would’ve been the consensus number 1 pick…..
Parker,Embiid,Wiggins and maybe Exum,who has been on a tear recently in Australia,will be battling it out for who goes number 1…Some view them as 1st tier type talent..While guys like Randle,Lavine and Smart are in the 2nd tier……
This draft might be so deep,that there might be over twenty 2nd round picks & undrafted players that’ll be getting guaranteed contracts….
0- Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 8:03am #855822
hbomb3300ParticipantI agree… this draft is so deep it will be interesting to see the quality of players that fall to late first round or even 2nd round. I believe at least a few starter quality players will be in this range.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 8:03am #855929
hbomb3300ParticipantI agree… this draft is so deep it will be interesting to see the quality of players that fall to late first round or even 2nd round. I believe at least a few starter quality players will be in this range.
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- Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 7:12am #855921
RUDEBOY_Participantlol..Just goes to show the talent & depth of the 2014 Draft…Last year Randle would’ve been the consensus number 1 pick…..
Parker,Embiid,Wiggins and maybe Exum,who has been on a tear recently in Australia,will be battling it out for who goes number 1…Some view them as 1st tier type talent..While guys like Randle,Lavine and Smart are in the 2nd tier……
This draft might be so deep,that there might be over twenty 2nd round picks & undrafted players that’ll be getting guaranteed contracts….
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 8:36am #855832
jwall1ParticipantRandle IMO is a top 4 lock… cant understand how he is at #7
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 8:36am #855939
jwall1ParticipantRandle IMO is a top 4 lock… cant understand how he is at #7
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 9:08am #855836
qDizzle32ParticipantNerlens Noel going 6th seemed unrealistic even though I was never sold on his offensive game. Still believe Zeller and Len can be alright in the NBA but I knew that was foolish to pass on Noel for those guys. Teams were that impatient on having to worry about their top pick sitting out a year.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 9:08am #855943
qDizzle32ParticipantNerlens Noel going 6th seemed unrealistic even though I was never sold on his offensive game. Still believe Zeller and Len can be alright in the NBA but I knew that was foolish to pass on Noel for those guys. Teams were that impatient on having to worry about their top pick sitting out a year.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 9:37am #855838
bloodno way that he drops out of top 3.maybe only in some crazy scenario where team with good bigmen(like utah) gets 3.rd pick and they select Smart or Exum,but there is alot of teams who need good bigmen and almost every team has great pg,And also there’s no way Emiid goes top 3,he’s has allstar potential but Wiggins/Parker/Randle has that superstar,HOF potential.They are 2003 draft class of this generation.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 9:37am #855945
bloodno way that he drops out of top 3.maybe only in some crazy scenario where team with good bigmen(like utah) gets 3.rd pick and they select Smart or Exum,but there is alot of teams who need good bigmen and almost every team has great pg,And also there’s no way Emiid goes top 3,he’s has allstar potential but Wiggins/Parker/Randle has that superstar,HOF potential.They are 2003 draft class of this generation.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 10:09am #855840
Deems03ParticipantConfused as to why someone would draw comparisons to the two…Lamar’s strengths when he was playing at at a high level were his ability to pass stretch defenses with the ability to hit a big 3 but never really shot the 3 with consistency in his career he’s more of a skilled big not a banger with the ability to handle the ball in transition. His court vision is what makes him unique for his size, he’s a jack of all trades master of none kind of player. Randle has the potential to be great, I feel that he gets looked over because Kentucky isn’t committed to player development and people look at that school as a one and done with little player development. Randles game is nice at the college level however many people feel that he uses his physical skills to bully less physical players in the paint getting a lot of putbacks dunks and close to the rim buckets..that’s caused some concern as to how his game will translate against stronger lengthier more athletic bigs in the NBA. He needs to develop a more consistent mid range game to keep defenses honest and he’s absolutely capable of doing that. Wiggins Parker and Randle are still adapting to college ball all three can be better than what they have shown which is a scary thought.
0- Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 4:46pm #855900
surveParticipantwell, its just my opinion. but did you watch L.O. at Rhode Island? I did. Their college games will be a far thing of the past 5-10 years from now. Randle can handle it and I think his passing and jumper will get there. he doesnt play in the same style as L.O. I just think their skillset is similar with Randle being more frenetic. everybody likes to compare him to Zach but I dont really see that. Zach doesnt have the athleticism or open court game…and I dont see Randle having the skilled low post finesse of Randolph….ever.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 4:46pm #856007
surveParticipantwell, its just my opinion. but did you watch L.O. at Rhode Island? I did. Their college games will be a far thing of the past 5-10 years from now. Randle can handle it and I think his passing and jumper will get there. he doesnt play in the same style as L.O. I just think their skillset is similar with Randle being more frenetic. everybody likes to compare him to Zach but I dont really see that. Zach doesnt have the athleticism or open court game…and I dont see Randle having the skilled low post finesse of Randolph….ever.
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- Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 10:09am #855947
Deems03ParticipantConfused as to why someone would draw comparisons to the two…Lamar’s strengths when he was playing at at a high level were his ability to pass stretch defenses with the ability to hit a big 3 but never really shot the 3 with consistency in his career he’s more of a skilled big not a banger with the ability to handle the ball in transition. His court vision is what makes him unique for his size, he’s a jack of all trades master of none kind of player. Randle has the potential to be great, I feel that he gets looked over because Kentucky isn’t committed to player development and people look at that school as a one and done with little player development. Randles game is nice at the college level however many people feel that he uses his physical skills to bully less physical players in the paint getting a lot of putbacks dunks and close to the rim buckets..that’s caused some concern as to how his game will translate against stronger lengthier more athletic bigs in the NBA. He needs to develop a more consistent mid range game to keep defenses honest and he’s absolutely capable of doing that. Wiggins Parker and Randle are still adapting to college ball all three can be better than what they have shown which is a scary thought.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 10:45am #855844
rileymcshea3ParticipantI’m still sticking with my top 3 of Wiggins,Parker, and Randle in that order
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 10:45am #855951
rileymcshea3ParticipantI’m still sticking with my top 3 of Wiggins,Parker, and Randle in that order
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:21am #855846
3 No Biases 3ParticipantI’m sorry, I like reading posts and info on here but the mock draft rankings suck every year and are nowhere close to how the actual draft goes down..
I remember McLemore was a consensus #1 overall all year and he ended up going 7th. The previous year Perry Jones was #1 until like the last few weeks of the tourney. This site doesnt take into account Leadership, intangibles, intelligence, and work ethic which NBA scouts do.. Randle will be in the conversation for the #1 pick by seasons end. People who are so down on him dont realize how good of ball handler, how athletic, and how good of an inside out threat he will be at the next level, but NBA scouts will. He’s fearless and he doesnt settle for the outside shot (which he has) and if you listen to him speak he is top notch.
He wont drop out of the top 3, mark my words. No way Embiid cracks the top 3, Smart and Exum have a shot cause they are point guards, but Parker, Wiggins, and Randle will go top 3 unless a team needs a PG. No way a team will draft a center with those 5 on the board in todays NBA.
0- Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 6:46pm #855928
jwall1ParticipantI totally agree. Randle has average size but his talent and attitude make up for it. The Embiid bandwagon is getting ridiculous, and I still dont understand how Exum is ahead of Randle. If it were up to me, Randle would go number 2 after Parker . People can talk all they want about Wiggins’/Exum’s/Embiid’s ceiling and what not, but they just does not stack up talent wise offensively (or even attitude wise) to Randle and Parker. Parker and Randle bar none are the best players and most forsure stars in this draft. Could Wiggins turn out like Paul George/Tmac or Embiid turn out like Drummond? Sure. But they could also likely end up being underwhelming players or even busts in the league.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 6:46pm #856035
jwall1ParticipantI totally agree. Randle has average size but his talent and attitude make up for it. The Embiid bandwagon is getting ridiculous, and I still dont understand how Exum is ahead of Randle. If it were up to me, Randle would go number 2 after Parker . People can talk all they want about Wiggins’/Exum’s/Embiid’s ceiling and what not, but they just does not stack up talent wise offensively (or even attitude wise) to Randle and Parker. Parker and Randle bar none are the best players and most forsure stars in this draft. Could Wiggins turn out like Paul George/Tmac or Embiid turn out like Drummond? Sure. But they could also likely end up being underwhelming players or even busts in the league.
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- Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:21am #855953
3 No Biases 3ParticipantI’m sorry, I like reading posts and info on here but the mock draft rankings suck every year and are nowhere close to how the actual draft goes down..
I remember McLemore was a consensus #1 overall all year and he ended up going 7th. The previous year Perry Jones was #1 until like the last few weeks of the tourney. This site doesnt take into account Leadership, intangibles, intelligence, and work ethic which NBA scouts do.. Randle will be in the conversation for the #1 pick by seasons end. People who are so down on him dont realize how good of ball handler, how athletic, and how good of an inside out threat he will be at the next level, but NBA scouts will. He’s fearless and he doesnt settle for the outside shot (which he has) and if you listen to him speak he is top notch.
He wont drop out of the top 3, mark my words. No way Embiid cracks the top 3, Smart and Exum have a shot cause they are point guards, but Parker, Wiggins, and Randle will go top 3 unless a team needs a PG. No way a team will draft a center with those 5 on the board in todays NBA.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 12:46pm #855848
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantRandle is a better ball-handling Zach Randolph and to be honest, he probably has the second highest floor, next to Jabari Parker.
Sure, Exum, Wiggins, Parker, and Embiid may have higher ceilings but Julius Randle is a better player right now than Exum, Embiid and even Wiggins.
He won’t drop out of the top-5 unless something drastic happens throughout the season.
0- Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 2:20pm #855872
jwall1ParticipantWhat limits Randle’s ceiling? His athleticism gives him a ceiling just as high as the other guys. Ceiling is a measurement of a player maxing out what they cannot control (like athleticism and wingspan, or height even).. Its a well known fact that Jabari will never be on Wiggins’ level athletically, therefore giving him a lower ceiling in comparison to Wiggins. Julius Randle has elite athleticism like Wiggins and skill (more refined than Wiggins, so I do not understand how Randle has less room to keep developing in comparison to the other guys. People are criticizing at the fact he is a 6’9 PF but realistically that is the ideal height of a PF in the nba.
0- Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 2:48pm #855876
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI think what limits his ceiling is his average wingspan and the fact that he’s probably 6’8 instead of 6’9+.
Usually a shorter player makes up for it with wingspan but Randle seems to be substandard in both. Accompany that with average athleticism and he’s going to have some trouble banging with bigs in the L.
I’m not saying he won’t be an All-Star, I’m one of the biggest Randle fans on here, I just believe that if there’s a player with a lower ceiling when comparing Wiggins, Embiid, Parker, Exum, and Randle, it’s going to be Randle. That doesn’t mean he’s going to be a JJ Hickson-esque player or that the others are better/will be better.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 2:48pm #855983
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI think what limits his ceiling is his average wingspan and the fact that he’s probably 6’8 instead of 6’9+.
Usually a shorter player makes up for it with wingspan but Randle seems to be substandard in both. Accompany that with average athleticism and he’s going to have some trouble banging with bigs in the L.
I’m not saying he won’t be an All-Star, I’m one of the biggest Randle fans on here, I just believe that if there’s a player with a lower ceiling when comparing Wiggins, Embiid, Parker, Exum, and Randle, it’s going to be Randle. That doesn’t mean he’s going to be a JJ Hickson-esque player or that the others are better/will be better.
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- Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 2:20pm #855979
jwall1ParticipantWhat limits Randle’s ceiling? His athleticism gives him a ceiling just as high as the other guys. Ceiling is a measurement of a player maxing out what they cannot control (like athleticism and wingspan, or height even).. Its a well known fact that Jabari will never be on Wiggins’ level athletically, therefore giving him a lower ceiling in comparison to Wiggins. Julius Randle has elite athleticism like Wiggins and skill (more refined than Wiggins, so I do not understand how Randle has less room to keep developing in comparison to the other guys. People are criticizing at the fact he is a 6’9 PF but realistically that is the ideal height of a PF in the nba.
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- Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 12:46pm #855955
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantRandle is a better ball-handling Zach Randolph and to be honest, he probably has the second highest floor, next to Jabari Parker.
Sure, Exum, Wiggins, Parker, and Embiid may have higher ceilings but Julius Randle is a better player right now than Exum, Embiid and even Wiggins.
He won’t drop out of the top-5 unless something drastic happens throughout the season.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 2:03pm #855858
BasterdInABasketParticipantRight now I like Randle and Wiggins top 2 followed by Smart but he should be in that next group with Embiid and Exum. Doesn’t have the top tier potential of those guys but you said it, the numbers don’t lie especially at that age.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 2:03pm #855965
BasterdInABasketParticipantRight now I like Randle and Wiggins top 2 followed by Smart but he should be in that next group with Embiid and Exum. Doesn’t have the top tier potential of those guys but you said it, the numbers don’t lie especially at that age.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 2:04pm #855856
princejamesParticipantJulius Randle Will Easily Be a top 3 pick in the 2014 NBA Draft. To keep it real with everybody, if Jabari Parker decides to stay in school. Then I think that Julius Randle will probably end up being the Number one pick in the 2014 NBA Draft. His foundation of strength, athleticism, talent, and skills are qualities that many teams will love to have in a player. When Comparing Julius Randle To Blake Griffin When they both were freshman. Julius has more post skills, better shooting touch around the rim, and better ball-handling skills as a freshman when comparing him to the overall talent and skills that Blake showed when he was a freshman in college.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 2:04pm #855963
princejamesParticipantJulius Randle Will Easily Be a top 3 pick in the 2014 NBA Draft. To keep it real with everybody, if Jabari Parker decides to stay in school. Then I think that Julius Randle will probably end up being the Number one pick in the 2014 NBA Draft. His foundation of strength, athleticism, talent, and skills are qualities that many teams will love to have in a player. When Comparing Julius Randle To Blake Griffin When they both were freshman. Julius has more post skills, better shooting touch around the rim, and better ball-handling skills as a freshman when comparing him to the overall talent and skills that Blake showed when he was a freshman in college.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 2:09pm #855864
Ghost01ParticipantThere is no way he goes lower than 4th.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 2:09pm #855971
Ghost01ParticipantThere is no way he goes lower than 4th.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 4:53pm #855902
Pippen aint EZParticipantI think he’s a really interesting prospect and I hope he evolves into a bonafide all star but 2 quick thoughts:
1. The wingspan and 6’9 or smaller size is/will burt his stock as a prospect, which is essentially all the big board is – a pro basketball stock market betting on future assets. If you look at the last 5 games his shooting percentage has dropped slightly from lofty numbers to begin with. He has also had his shot blocked 5 times over that span (2 against Providence, 0 against Boise) and 4 of the 5 were by opponents who were 7’0+ with the 5th being by a 6’7 forward which I find pretty random. I haven’t been able to watch him on film yet, so I’d like to hear input from those who have, but it is at least an indicator that size may be an issue. There has also been the falling stock/mixed results of hopefuls at the PF position with similar concerns in T. Rob, Sullinger and Cody Zeller – all of whom were just as hyped as top prospects but do not look like bonafide all stars currently while still young. It will be insteresting to see Randle go up against more pro prospects like Austin and Payne (Randle had a great game against Sparty – similar to Wiggins’s Florida game where he seemed to be the only thing keeping the score as close as it was, would like to know for those who saw how he matched with Payne). There aren’t really any elite defensive bigs in the SEC for him to face – Mizzou is lacking, Florida has Young but might not match up, Jordan Mickey at LSU is averaging 3.7 bpg, jarnell stokes 1.1 bpg. His biggest challenges might be Mathiang-Van Treese combining for 2 bpg and the UNC front court of Johnson-McAdoo-James-Meeks combining for 3.5 bpg. His biggest test might be everyday at practice against marcus lee, dakari and big willie.
2. The wingspan and above average athleticism also lead to questions about his D as many of you have brought up. He is only averaging 0.8 Steals + blocks per game going against mostly weak competition. Maybe he saves for offense knowing his tremendous backline partners will alter most shots at the rim or maybe he doesn’t have the training to be better than average at that part of his game. This will be interesting to follow as he wil face many capable scoring 4/5s this season including the UNC frontcourt mentioned, Montrezl Harrel, LSU’s Jarrell Martin and O’Bryant and even Tenn’s veteran Stokes and Maymon. Unlike the D he will face, most of these bigs mentioned have some sort of future in pro ball with many being possible first rounders. Will he have to outscore them or will we see some defensive impact?
I know this was longwinded, just think that Randle might have the smallest gap between ceiling and floor of any of the popular Elite talents in this draft (Parker, Wiggins, Embiid, Smart, Exum, Randle). This is great as I don’t see him being anything less than a 46 FG%, 12 PPG, 9 RPG and could easily see him going for an efficient 20-10. The big question though will be do you take a David Lee with better athleticism over possible 2 way, athletic monsters (Embiid, Wiggins, Exum) or gifted players with better size profiles for their positions (Parker, Smart). If he is a prime-Elton Brand contributor (stat wise) top 3 is worth it, if he’s a prime Lee, Boozer contributor then top 5 might be better 10 years down the road with this class.
0- Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:24pm #856080
boomdizzalParticipantRandle can ball and is his wingspan really that much of a problem? Whats important is if they can ball, their fire and if they can help a team win. I dont understand 4 paragraphs and 2 thesis statements about Julius Randle just to say he doesnt have a huge wingspan ^. I never heard a telecaster say this guy cant win a championship because he lacks WINGSPAN. Yea he mite not be a shot blocker like anthony davis or ibaka, but if this kid wants it I like the althletic less skillded Z-bo comparisons but I see a little bit of a bigger less skilled Barkley comparison.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:24pm #855974
boomdizzalParticipantRandle can ball and is his wingspan really that much of a problem? Whats important is if they can ball, their fire and if they can help a team win. I dont understand 4 paragraphs and 2 thesis statements about Julius Randle just to say he doesnt have a huge wingspan ^. I never heard a telecaster say this guy cant win a championship because he lacks WINGSPAN. Yea he mite not be a shot blocker like anthony davis or ibaka, but if this kid wants it I like the althletic less skillded Z-bo comparisons but I see a little bit of a bigger less skilled Barkley comparison.
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- Posted on: Wed, 12/11/2013 - 4:53pm #856009
Pippen aint EZParticipantI think he’s a really interesting prospect and I hope he evolves into a bonafide all star but 2 quick thoughts:
1. The wingspan and 6’9 or smaller size is/will burt his stock as a prospect, which is essentially all the big board is – a pro basketball stock market betting on future assets. If you look at the last 5 games his shooting percentage has dropped slightly from lofty numbers to begin with. He has also had his shot blocked 5 times over that span (2 against Providence, 0 against Boise) and 4 of the 5 were by opponents who were 7’0+ with the 5th being by a 6’7 forward which I find pretty random. I haven’t been able to watch him on film yet, so I’d like to hear input from those who have, but it is at least an indicator that size may be an issue. There has also been the falling stock/mixed results of hopefuls at the PF position with similar concerns in T. Rob, Sullinger and Cody Zeller – all of whom were just as hyped as top prospects but do not look like bonafide all stars currently while still young. It will be insteresting to see Randle go up against more pro prospects like Austin and Payne (Randle had a great game against Sparty – similar to Wiggins’s Florida game where he seemed to be the only thing keeping the score as close as it was, would like to know for those who saw how he matched with Payne). There aren’t really any elite defensive bigs in the SEC for him to face – Mizzou is lacking, Florida has Young but might not match up, Jordan Mickey at LSU is averaging 3.7 bpg, jarnell stokes 1.1 bpg. His biggest challenges might be Mathiang-Van Treese combining for 2 bpg and the UNC front court of Johnson-McAdoo-James-Meeks combining for 3.5 bpg. His biggest test might be everyday at practice against marcus lee, dakari and big willie.
2. The wingspan and above average athleticism also lead to questions about his D as many of you have brought up. He is only averaging 0.8 Steals + blocks per game going against mostly weak competition. Maybe he saves for offense knowing his tremendous backline partners will alter most shots at the rim or maybe he doesn’t have the training to be better than average at that part of his game. This will be interesting to follow as he wil face many capable scoring 4/5s this season including the UNC frontcourt mentioned, Montrezl Harrel, LSU’s Jarrell Martin and O’Bryant and even Tenn’s veteran Stokes and Maymon. Unlike the D he will face, most of these bigs mentioned have some sort of future in pro ball with many being possible first rounders. Will he have to outscore them or will we see some defensive impact?
I know this was longwinded, just think that Randle might have the smallest gap between ceiling and floor of any of the popular Elite talents in this draft (Parker, Wiggins, Embiid, Smart, Exum, Randle). This is great as I don’t see him being anything less than a 46 FG%, 12 PPG, 9 RPG and could easily see him going for an efficient 20-10. The big question though will be do you take a David Lee with better athleticism over possible 2 way, athletic monsters (Embiid, Wiggins, Exum) or gifted players with better size profiles for their positions (Parker, Smart). If he is a prime-Elton Brand contributor (stat wise) top 3 is worth it, if he’s a prime Lee, Boozer contributor then top 5 might be better 10 years down the road with this class.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/12/2013 - 1:31am #856086
bloodis the most overrated thing about bigmen.If guy can play it doesnt matter if his wingspan isn’t longer then his height.(Thabeet,Sene etc were all huge busts)
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/12/2013 - 1:31am #855980
bloodis the most overrated thing about bigmen.If guy can play it doesnt matter if his wingspan isn’t longer then his height.(Thabeet,Sene etc were all huge busts)
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