Which backcourt duo would you rather have now from these two, and which do you see as the better option for the next 5-10 years?
i gotta go with curry/thompson...although i think jrue is the best player out of these 4, i think that turner is just so overated and curry/thompson is the safer choice
I don't know that I agree that Jrue Holiday is the best of the 4 players, but I do agree that I'd go with Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson. I think if Curry is healthy he's likely to be the best of the 4 players.
Evan Turner is the biggest question mark in the group because he shows great ability from time to time, but then fades away at other times.
I might be the only one but I'll take the versitility of Jrue and turner. Even though curry and Thompson are far more potent offensively.
You can't go wrong either way.
Jrue and Turner bring much better defense, versatility, and size, but Curry and Thompson have the upper hand in shooting.
Why didn't you include some of the other young back courts? Irving/Waiters, maybe Lilliard/Matthews are a couple that will be together for the next few years. Honorable mention to Wall/Beal until they actually play
I think that curry compliments turner better and holiday compliments thompson better. I know that wont happen but those would be more balanced and better back courts than curry thompson and holiday turner
I agree with you completely because Jrue and Evan are both so much better on defense that trading off would provide a tougher more balanced backcourt.
Jrue is a better passer than Curry but Steph is the better shooter and scorer. Jrue is a much better defender and the same can be said of Turner over Thompson. Thompson has a great jumpshot as well which is Turners biggest weakness however he has improved his %'s a lot this season. If you add in Turners ball handling, passing and rebounding he is more valuable than Thompson. Thompson will score more consistently than Turner but when ET isn't scoring his still effects the game in other ways. That can't be said of Thompson. If anything I think Turner is a bit underrated and is just getting the hang of the NBA game this season.
I agree with you with all your points except that when Klay Thompson isn't hitting his shots he still effects the game in a big way by simply being a shooter , he spreads the court for everyone and I dare you to leaving him open even when he has a off night
You are correct he does effect the game just by spacing the floor but that is still just a result of part of his one dimensional game. He is possibly a top ten shooter in the league and I would love to have him on the sixers just not over Turner.
Jrue and ET
Just to give a quick dossier of the 4 players in question:
Jrue Holiday is 22, an easy 6'4 possibly 6'5 now, and around 210 lbs. 18. 6 ppg, 8.9 apg, 4.1 rebounds. Efficiency 19.59
Evan Turner is 24, 6'7', 220 lbs, 14.3ppg , 4.3apg, 6.6 rpg, Eff. 16.26
Steph Curry is 24, a slight 6'3, 185 soaking wet, 20 ppg, 6'5 apg, 4.4 rpg, Eff 20.06
Klay Thompson is 22, 6'7", 205 lbs, 15. 7 ppg, 2.5 apg, 4 rpg, Eff 13.23
Both duo's play about the same amount of minutes and in them minutes Klay and Steph record a combined efficiency rating of 33.29, while Jrue and Evan combine for an efficiency rating of 35.85. I like NBA.com's efficiency rating, like ESPN's PER it gives a great idea of a players value while they are on the court.
Just on the surface Klay and Steph are much better offensive players, while Jrue and Evan are both great defensive players. I think the gap between Jrue and Evan being better on defensive is far wider then the gap of Steph and Klay being better on offense, way far wider. Jrue and Evan are also easily the more athletic backpoint who are both stronger, quicker, and more durable. Jrue is easily the most athletic out of the whole group.
Alot of people get blinded by scoring stats, a quick example is most people would probably pick Klay Thompson over Evan Turner despite Turner being the better overall offensive talent. Turner is a better slasher, a far better ball handler, and much more adept at getting his teammates involved. Turner plays at a unique pace and you can easily run an offense through him with him at the PG as the Sixers do alot against the Celtics. Plus Klay is a shooter who is shooting 39% from the floor, and 36% from 3 while Evan is shooting 43% from the field, and 42% from 3 (And Turner has shot 56 three's through 31 games) So even though Evan scores a little more then a point less then Klay he's doing it more efficiently and is also getting his teammates involved at a much higher clip.
Same goes for Jrue vs Steph, as Steph Curry is a much more gifted scorer, however he's seam closed to maxed out potential wise and is nowhere near as gifted as Jrue when is comes to passing. 6.5 assists vs 8.9 is a wide margin for NBA PG's.
The final factor is the fact that the Warriors have blossomed into one of the better teams in the league, and the Sixers are floundering in mediocrety right now 3 games below 500 but not necessarily out of the playoff picture at all. And it's safe to say that Jrue and Evan are the 2 best players on the Sixers right now, while David Lee is clearly the best player for the Warriors and a huge factor for the success they're having.
In the end I feel like Jrue and Evan are just better as they are both versatile two-way players, who also seem to have more potential. Turner is starting to get more consistent with his shot and once that starts falling and being respected then he's gonna be a force because he's a sick ball handler for being 6'7' and is also extremely crafty below the foul line and is one of the better finishing guards in the league around the basket statistically.
Also I dunno when Turner become overrated when he was view as a bust before this season so could somebody explain that one to me?
You can argue who's better between Curry and Holiday (I'd pick Holiday because he has more size and defensive ability). Regardless, both players are having very good seasons. I think this all comes down between Thompson and Turner in regards to which duo I'd pick.
Both players have gotten big minutes this year and more opportunity. Not that Turner has blown it up, but I think he's done more with his increased opportunity than Thompson has. Thompson was one of those players people predicted to have a breakout season. He's disappointed so far. His defense is also terrible. Turner is a guy that you know can play both ends, plus he can create for his teammates off of the dribble. He's also the best rebounder at his position in basketball.
Holiday and Turner for me. Bigger, better defensively, more versatility and both can create for teammates.
Klay Thompson hands down is the best of the 4.
And yes I was hii when I made this post
Steph Curry is too much of an injury risk which is why I would take Jrue and Evan Turner. Curry has shown that his ankles are made of tooth picks and long term it will be an ongoing issue.