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Jrue Holiday at 24, Budinger at 11

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Jrue Holiday at 24, Budinger at 11

Sometimes this website seems like a joke. I could understand the skepticism of Holiday earlier in the year, but the draft is 3 weeks away and it is a fact that he will go well before 24th. Likely in the top 10. Budinger is not even viewed as a lottery pick by anyone but this site. Earl Clark at 21 unlikely he will be there. I dont understand its love for Wayne Ellington either, they have moved him down from 11 where he has been before on here to 20, but that is still to high.


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I agree

Everything you said sounds right to me. This site really seems to be against Holiday compared to other sites. I've read multiple sites that have him going top 10, and a few that have him going top 5. This is pretty much the only site that lists him at 24th. Also, after the first day of the combine, this site said he was unimpressive and did nothing to show he would be any more then a role player in the nba. That same day I went to a couple other sites that said his first day at the combine was terriffic and that he was one of the most impressive performers and that he had locked up a spot in the lottery. How two scouts can watch the same exact workout and see completley different things is beyond me.

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It's Aran being a tease and

It's Aran being a tease and for once having no faith in a guy who was a stud in HS. I'm surprised by his reasoning's

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Holiday will be a lottery

Holiday will be a lottery pick. Ellington is hard to judge because he is the 2nd best shooter in this draft maybe the best, if a team needs a pure shooter then they could take him mid first round. Clark has tremendous upside but he isn't a great scorer and has a i don't care attitude which could realistically drop him to the late teens very early 20's. Budinger could go 11th but I doubt it. Budinger is huge for a SG and is a rare athlete plus he can shoot so I could see a team snatching him up mid first round.

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Clark in the 20's

I don't see how Clark how fall as far as twenties. Sometimes he does not have the drive he needs. As you know GM's now look at potential as much as they do production. Clark has a lot of raw skills players his size wish they had.
Clark has all the tools be a good NBA player. I dont see him sliding out of the lottery, and he could be a top 10 pick. Twenties come on guys have you seen this draft?

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Yeah, just checked espn and

Yeah, just checked espn and others. They have Jrue going as high as #4 to Sac. Def. not a chance he goes to 24.

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Jrue Holliday will go to the

Jrue Holliday will go to the Suns

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Ya its a bit of a joke.....

Ya its a bit of a joke..... like just now Tyreke just cracked the top 10 for the 1st time all year on this site. Guys like Budinger ranked 11 the dude is a scrub im an AZ fan and he just aint what he supposed to be.

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Holiday will go sooner

I do think Chase should go high. He has size athleticsm and a shot. He will be very good with other good players around him. A more athletic Mike Miller.

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what is the purpose of a mock raft?

What is the mission statement of nbadraft for it's mock?

If the purpose is to guess what teams will do (which is the stated mission of the espn draft, and seems to be what most media mocks are about), then yes, it seems unlikely that Jrue will go 24th. At least it seems to be against the consensus of the other mocks (which are frequently wrong). We'll see in a couple weeks.

However maybe nbadraft is picking the players that _it_ thinks will turn out best. I know that's what I do when I make a mock draft. For me the fun is "proving" that I'm a better GM than the real GMs, not that I can read the minds of GMs with zero real information about what they are thinking. In which case we won't know definitively if their pick is good or bad until some years from now...

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No-care attitude

How do people criticize the way a player approaches the game? How can you say Earl Clark has a no care attitude, you have never said a word to him. I think he is one of the top 5 talents in this draft and I think he will put up Rudy Gay like stats on the team he's picked by. But anyway, I think Budinger (even though Im not crazy about him) will be more productive than Holiday to I have no problem with this. Holdiay just isnt that good to me, and I dont understand why he is even being considered a 1st round pick, let alone lottery. I do think Budinger has played at a first round level in college

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No way Clark will put up

No way Clark will put up Rudy Gay stats as a rookie. I've seen Clark play a ton of times. He does have a ton of potential with rare size for a SF. You are right I have never talked to him so I can't judge him on his personality. I was just saying that based on what I have read from nba scouts. He could be a lottery pick if a team falls in love with athletic ability and size. I just don't see him scoring much, at least not as a rookie because his shot needs some work. If he is going to be a small forward he better work on his ball handling so he can penetrate some on the nba level.

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are u serious

are u serious.... gatorheel

first off which player enter this draft doesn't need to work on his jump shot to be better prepared for the nba... that has to be the most over used statement(they all are college kids who are going to become professionals that will have the time to focus on their traded now) by people "scouting" a player.

and in regards to his handled minus the point guards he has one of the better handles in the draft.

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You have no idea what your

You have no idea what your are talking about. You just lost all credibility saying that he has the best ball handling skill besides the point guards???what r u smokin? not even close dude. Watch him play before you judge him. There are way better shooters in this draft then Clark so he needs to work much harder on his shoot than other prospects. He is also a poor free throw shooter. Tell me how he is going to score so much his rookie year in the nba???? Comparin him to Rudy Gay already is way out of line.

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alot of sites differ because

alot of sites differ because one is in love with a player and ignore threre faults while another keeps it real and gives you the pros and cons of the player..alot of sites just give you the pros of what they did during the season and the pros of there workouts while other are real with it and let you know that ..yeah someone is hitting there shots and looking fast but they are doing it againts no comepetition..its the same as some one doing all types of dunks and you think they are great finishers but in a game they rarely dunk on anyone and cant finish consitantly

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