As I've seen discussed on these boards a number of times, is it time for Josh Smith and the Hawks to go their separate ways?
As much as I love the idea of Smooth potentially bringing D12 to Atlanta along with Chris Paul since they are all friends (Lou Williams and Anthony Morrow are here as well), it seems like a pipe dream at this point.
The article above talks about how he has worn out his welcome in Atlanta with the organization and the fans.
The Hawks have been one of the most mediocre teams in recent memory; Always good enough to get the 4th-5th seed, but not good enough to make it to the ECF. Moving JJ and Marvin was Step 1, now it's time for Josh to go.
The only way he should be part of their long term plans is if he can entice Dwight to sign with the Hawks this off-season. If he has no pull in that regard then they should part ways. They won't accomplish anything of note with Smith on the team eating up 13-14 mill a yr or whatever he'll command his next contract. Whoever gives this guy his next contract will be making a big mistake.
I wouldn't even ask much for him, just any combination of young players with upside, expirings and 1st round picks.
Why do you underrate josh smith? He does everything pretty well, yeah his shot selection is questionable but tell me how many power forwards can average 18 points, 9 rebounds, 3 assists, 1.5 steals, and 2 blocks a game?
Because he's boneheaded, petulant, inefficient, can't shoot, is 9 yrs into his NBA career and still doesn't know his limitations. He's a mistake waiting to happen during key moments in games, on both ends of the floor because he's dumb, has a tendency to break plays, hold the ball and break defensive integrity so he can freelance.
I've never liked Josh Smith, he thinks he's Lebron, and he's far far far from it.
I mean there's not much they can get for him since he has an expiring contract. Best case scenario for the Hawks is if they can trade Josh Smith and John Jenkins to Memphis in exchange for Gay. Memphis wants to unload cap room which they could do once Smith's contract expires. Could work? Either way Atlanta should move him before the trade deadline. It would be bad news if they kept around a disgruntled Josh Smith all year just to see him walk for nothing in return.
I'm not really sure how good Josh Smith is but I'm pretty sure he will get a max deal and possibly a five year max deal. We just watched Gordon, Hibbert and Lopez got max deals last year and Marc Gasol, Nene and Tyson Chandler got near max deals the year before. None of those guys are bonafide superstars. He can impact the game on both ends when focused and defensively even if he is not focused. If Atlanta doesn't give it to him somebody will.
Atlanta have a load of expiring deals worth over $45 million so Danny Ferry could easily pull a couple of big trades to change the roster next year, I doubt that the Hawks want to go back into rebuild having taken several years to get into contention. Even if they don't reach the conference finals, they still make good play off revenue and having moved Johnson don't have huge contracts on the cap so should be a profitable team.
The idea of Gay for Smith does make sense but would Danny Ferry rather keep cap space and maybe look to entice another big name in place of or even alongside Smith to help Horford and co I wonder.
I don't see why Danny Ferry would pay Rudy Gay 17 and 19 million the next two years than give Josh Smith 15 and 16 million over the next two years then trade Smith like the Nuggets did with Nene and Afflalo. I think you should always sign a guy who is worth it then trade him that next January 15th, because there are so many destinations that free agents don't usually go and get shunned. Those places getting one in a long term deal with 3+ years left is tough to do. This will allow the Hawks to test the Dwight-CP3 sweep stakes market and then dump Smith the next year for cap space in the even more lucrative 2014 class. I know Cleveland and Milwaukee would like to have Josh Smith for 5 years.
Cleveland is an interesting suggestion by Artist and they have assets to do a trade, the only draw back that I could see is that they are a fellow Eastern Conference team but at least not in the same division.
But the Cav's should wait to the extension is signed unless they have decided to give him the max(the home team max that I believe no one will ever turn down), otherwise he could leave for nothing. The Cav's could wait till the off season and make a regular max offer and not have to give up anything. I don't know why a team would offer any assets for a soon to be free agent unless they are contending for a title in that particular season. Only if they are a restricted free agent and you can force them to stay.
Dan Gilbert did call Josh Smith one of if not the best defender in basketball when he was talking to the Cav's announcers last game they played the Hawks. He gave him alot of praise.