Josh Selby's growth being stunted by Grizzlies
We all knew coming into the NBA Selby was not a pure PG and that he would see limited action as a rookie, but this past Summer he killed it in Summer League play and was one of the top performers throughout the camp. Does anyone else feel as though the Grizzlies are stunting his growth by burying him on the bench?
Well signing Bayless didn't help since they are the same player. To my next point, Bayless was once summer league MVP and that never translated during the season so don't be fooled by summer league.
Also the same thing could be said about Wroten.
Do you think he gets packaged with Gay in a trade?
I hope he's in the deal for his sake.
Rumor has it Phoenix may be the landing spot for Gay, so I highly doubt Selby would make much of an impact there as well because they are PG heavy.
They're not SG heavy though. They also have a couple of PGs with good size.
He's a terrible fit for their inside out slowed down offense and the Grizz signed Bayless taking away whatever minutes might of been availible to Selby.
It's a shame because I really like the potential a backcourt featuring Wroten and Selby possess. Wish they were both playing for a bad team that got out and ran. I can see Selby turning into a Shannon Brown type of player.
Or maybe he's just not that good?
I mean, he did nothing in college and has done nothing in the NBA. He's a 6'2 shooting guard without any point guard abilities. He's always been inconsistent and hasn't gotten better.
I mean, I know a lot of people wanted him to be a star or just a very good NBA player but maybe his ceiling is nothing more than a spark plug off the bench?
Memphis have the forth best record in the West, they're no longer a lottery team. The Grizz are quickly becoming an experienced outfit therefore the trust shouldn't be placed on Selby due to the current scoring depth at their disposal, the likes of Gay, along with Bayless, Ellington and even Pondexter (who has shown he can chip in and contribute) are responsible for scoring the output from the perimeter, Selby must show that he can adapt by maturing mentally and becoming more effective off the ball.
Selby does have raw scoring talent but to say that Memphis is stunting his growth just isn't valid in my opinion, other guys are in front of him and they're much more hungrier and are more ready to contribute and play within the offense. Selby was impressive in the Summer League but so was Anthony Randolph like Selby lacks the professionalism to put it altogether, Selby has time to turn it around but it's up to him.
I get what you're saying but for one I wouldn't compare Selby to Anthony Randolph they're completely different and I think the poster was more reffering to the fact that Memphis is such a good team that he's not going to get playing time.
Same way that OKC was stunting Mullens progress who went to Charlotte and broke out, it's all about opportunity.
Selby can score right now in the league it's just that Memphis doesn't need scoring and place an extra emphasis on defense. Like OJ Mayo couldn't even get comfortable in that system so I doubt Selby will.
The comparison was made with regards to their mental make-up, which was stated in my initial post. Also they both displayed great talent in the Summer league and were standouts therefore the correlation was established, of course they're different players but the point I was making is they share similarities in that their game is individually based and not suitable for the top teams which stems from the reluctance to change that mentality. In my opinion that rigid-ness is probably the catalyst as to why Selby isn't playing more often for the Grizzlies.
I agree with your reasoning about Mullens but he's performing okay on a team that has won just 27% of their games this season, of course the Bobcats are a year removed from a piss-poor 11-12 season and Mullens shouldn't be solely blamed but 37FG% for a bigman is unacceptable even if he is a finesse big. He's coming along well and is really benefiting from the playing time but there's a reason why the Thunder didn't give him a great deal of chances.
Selby is a shoot first undersized two guard that lacks anything remotely linked to a point guard apart from his stature. It is about opportunity but who would be willing to give that opportunity to Selby? Looking at some teams that have losing records, it'll be tough for him to find heavy minutes on a team that is heading for the lottery.
- Hornets, Rivers and Vasquez
- Wizards, Wall and Beal
- Cavaliers, Irving, Miles and Waiters
- Kings, Thomas, Evans and Thornton
- Bobcats, Henderson, Walker
- Suns, Dragic and Brown
- Pistons, Knight and Stuckey
- Raptors, Lowry, Ross and DeRozan
I'm sure everybody here knows that rosters can change very quickly but as it stands, Selby's options are very limited here, I'd love to get your take on suitable destinations for him because he is a talented scorer and could thrive on the right team.
You hit it on the head about what I were trying to say.
I agree with TOL23. Alot of ppl were high on Selby out of HS and from memory he had a big first college game. I remember a few ppl had him as a late lotto pick/mid first rounder then in their mocks....But the reality is he isn't a star and prob not a career starter.
To make a roster spot as a second round draft pick is quite an good effort in itself....
Shannon Brown and Joe Johnson did not look that good early on but a change of scenery helped them
Yes he can shoot but he is not a pg and cant really play it at all. He is too small to be a SG. He cant guard twos either. Been saying it since summer league. People are too high on that kid. Just a gunner playground style.
I remember when someone said he is better then O.J. Mayo after the summer league and gots points for it lol