[Bill Walton’s KneesParticipant]

Josh Selby missed the team’s end of the year dinner last night, and has been missing from campus for the past week.  Everyone knows he’s in Vegas, but this is just another red flag to me simply because he’s choosing to do what’s best for HIM instead of gathering with his TEAM. Am I the only one that thinks it’s a bigger deal then it really is?

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

Well he is no longer part of the team, so I don’t see how he has to stay committed to all other Kansas activities. It shows he doesn’t have that close a bond with his team mates, but at the same time he’s no longer part of the team and can do whatever he choses to do.

[JoeWolf1]

 Well the thing is that he hasn’t officially left the team or hired an agent.  He still is part of the team and has the option to come back for his Sophomore season, so yes I think it is kind of a slap in the face of his teammates, but if this is any indicator, I’d expect him to hire an agent soon.

[knicksfan7Participant]

While I do not question Selby’s skills, I question his character by missing a function like this. What many people do not understand is that on the NBA Level everyone is extremely talented even the players we constantly make fun of this forum, they are still NBA players at the end of the day. Poor character does not bode well in the NBA at all, and him not staying at KU to improve his character I think will hurt him over time when he is in the NBA.

[Tha_PrinceParticipant]

Judging by his weight gain this year I’m suprised he missed a free dinner lol.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

Yesterday you mentioned a lot of issues & incidents that Selby had while at KU, but I really don’t see that as a problem when he gives us all that Cam Newton perception of a good guy when he speaks in front of the camera. I really don’t see character as an issue for him, because we have not seen him have any type of incidents, where he lashed out at a coach or teammate. IMO we cannot sit here & call this man a headcase at all until he actually does something for the public eye to pick up on. WOW! he chose to work on all aspects of his game for his career to better himself as a player, so there won’t be any doubts on his work ethic. I can understand where some of you guys think it may be selfish of him to not join his teammates which shows that he cares about being there, but there is every indication that he will not comeback since the rumor has it he is in Vegas. It may be a big issue to a lot of you but if it is not breaking headlines it may not be that big of an issue at all. I’m looking forward to him hiring an agent since this is an indication that he will not be coming back. Hopefully he gets his conditioning on point more than any aspect of his game.

[LakerQ]

Yeah you’re making a bigger deal than it is. Many guys have missed the final team metting for the same thing. And he should think about his self first just like every team thinks team first

[wenichParticipant]

This dude didn’t even do ANYTHING at Kansas,  it’s funny how these guys can still go after the big bucks the NBA has to offer based on the player they supposedly were GOING INTO College.  All Selby showed this year is that he is not even special on the College level yet, but because of his status in High School he can go to the league. He is far from the only one, just a perfect example of why there are so many bums in the NBA.  It’s funny how many of these kids get exposed for their lack of fundamentals and basketball IQ in College but still go the NBA.  (Selby couldn’t even play the point at KU)

[JoeWolf1]

 

I don’t think it’s a character issue, but more a matter of immaturity.  Josh wasn’t a media distraction or a trouble maker around Lawrence by any means, but when you’d watch KU play, Selby would miss his first two shots and sulk until Self pulled him.  It may have been his way of dealing with frustration over his injury or lack of playing time, but his head was out of games.  When he did get in late in the season, even if it were early in the game and not in garbage time, he’d always look to get his.  I was at first very impressed on how he worked with KU’s offense, but at the first time of him starting to struggle he’d shoot himself out of games and sulk, not only on the court, but on the bench.

 I’m sure he’s a good guy, but he’d never had to be in a situation up until now that he wasn’t "the man" and even in a game where he’d struggle he’d play the whole game and get 20 points by shooting enough.  He handled it, in my opinon, in a very immature way, WHICH IS FINE BECAUSE HE’S 19! but his play, not his attitude makes me think he is not as good as his hype in high school would indicate and the weaknesses in his game right now, not his attitude would make me consider him a 2nd round draft pick.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

I agree a lot of players miss schoolastic functions while in HS proms, vacations, etc just to work on their games so does that make them selfish towards their girlfriends/family because they choose to do what’s best for them? I think not when everyone else may benefit from it later on down the line.

I comes before U in the Alphabet.

[LakerQ]

What he’s doing benifits him, his family. When a coach recruits a kid he doesn’t spend a bunch of time getting them ready to play after college, he prepares them to contribute for HIS team. It’s no secret Selby came to college as a stepping stone to get to the NBA. The coach Knows that and has been in contact with Selby and his mom while he’s been in Vegas and he has no problem with it especially since Selby is caught up in all his class work.

[JoeWolf1]

 LakerQ,

You make a good point about Bill Self not being upset or in the dark about Selby’s decision to train in Vegas and from what I’ve read you’re correct, but to say Bill Self or college coaches don’t spend a bunch of time getting players ready to play in the NBA is inaccurate.  Self is very real with his players and playing and coaching players at KU is spending a s**t load of time getting them ready to play at the next level.  

You look at KU and Illinois players who play in the NBA and played for Bill Self and tell me he doesn’t help them get ready to play after college.  The twins are two of the most improved players I’ve seen compared to their freshman seasons and Bill Self, Danny Manning and KU’s staff had a lot to do with that.  He was quoted as saying "It’s a no brainer" when asked if it was the right decision for the twins to leave.  He’s not the type of coach who will mislead or tell a player to stay when it’s the right time to leave.

[LakerQ]

Actually it is correct. The Coach’s are less worried about getting the players ready for the NBA and more about getting them ready to help them win on the college level. Thats first as far as what there job is. Getting them ready for the NBA is secondary. Why do you think they have so many guys who are clearly too small to play there position in the NBA, play that position in college?.. A 6’1 guy playing shooting guard instead of PG which would help them as far as where they would play in the NBA. The drills they do are drills that will help them in college and help there college team win. They onyl get so many Hrs of practice time and most if not all is dedicated to helping the college team win games not helping the player be able to produce more on the NBA level. Micheal Beasley played Center even though the Coach knew he was only 6’7 and wouldnt be able to play center in the NBA. There are Hundreds of more examples like that that include Self’s players.

 

But that Doesn’t make the Coach’s wrong because its there job to get them ready for  the College game. Helping them for skills in te NBA is secondary. Players have mentioned this a couple years back about how they learn a bunch of new things that will help them in the NBA after they hire a personal trainer or talk to NBA teams.

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