Jordan vs. McGee
Jordan or McGee
Who is better right now?
Better 5 years from now?
Me, I'm going with McGee on both.
Javalle McGee is wayyyyy better than DeAndre Jordan.
McGee is a lot better than Jordan, Jordan has absolutly no game outside the paint, it took him 3 and a half years to make 1 shot outside of the paint. THREE YEARS! And it's not like he didn't get any minutes his first three years. McGee is a more advanced offensive player, he uses his ahtleticism better, and he's not a liability on offense like Jordan, we saw what McGee could do in the Lakers series, he has at least a semblance of a post game, has a nice running hook and he can drive baseline.
I would say McGee because he's way more talented/skilled and they both have the same type of elite athleticism. They also change the game on defense in the same way by changing shots on defense. Deandre Jordan would be a way better player if he could even be a threat with the basketball from further than 2 feet from the rim.
I'll take DeAndre the Giant any day all day, don't get me wrong Javale shows flashes of crazy potential...He could be the best Center in the league if he had a brain in his head, in fact he needs to go to The Wizard of Oz and get himself a Brain if he wants to anything better than he has been, which is a talented knucklehead that will never play up to his ability...
DeAndre Jordan still has some great potential but he plays within himself and never truly hurts his team, sure he can learn how to defend better on the block and commit less fouls...But what seperates the two for me is Jordan's amazing shooting percantage from down low and his ability to impact the game for longer stretches of time on Defense, he can become the best interior defender if he truly works at it and just finishes whatever his Pg and team mates create for him, either on designed plays or put backs...
If McGee went to Oz ths summer and comes back with a vastly higher IQ than I will reconsider my choice in a few months, but right now I'll take the guy that shot an amazing Fg % and blocked a few shots per game next to Blake Griffin, CP3 will make a better player on Offense and he'll have a role to play for the rest of his career, McGee and his Momma still think he can be the 7'0 Micheal Jordan, which will never happen Captain...
You do realize McGee shot 61.2% from the field with the Nuggets, right? You know what would make DeAndre's FG% impressive? Taking shots! He has never averaged more than 5 FGA's per game for a season. I hear the excuses. "He has Blake Griffin." "He plays his role." Whatever. He may be a slightly better rebounder (per minute) than McGee, but McGee is a MUCH better offensive option.
Here is a statistic that will (or should) blow your mind. JaVale McGee and DeAndre Jordan both dunk a lot, 150 for JaVale and 141 for DeAndre. The mindblower? 68% of DeAndre Jordan's FG's made came off of dunks. JaVale had a still astonighly high 49% of his FG's off of them as well, but lets look at DeAndre's FG% without dunking. Lets give him the benefit of the doubt and say he missed 4 dunks (141/145). That would make his non-dunk field goal percentage 35%! That, my friend, is not good. JaVale's is still bad as well, but it is 39%. Given his penchant for scoring more often, give me that.
Now, both of these guys have a lot to work on, but so far I see JaVale as the better player of the two and think it will be pretty set on that course. I would rather DeAndre shoot more and have a FG% like JaVale's than barely provide any offense besides dunking, much less having no confidence scoring outside of the paint. I will take 55.6% on 9 attempts per game over 63.2% on 5 in more minutes. To me, that is a definite issue.
Yes, I know JaVale has not done the smartest things on the court. He blocks shot, but may not be the defender everyone else thinks. Truthfully, I do not think Jordan is either. Both of them have things to work on in that area and I really do not think DeAndre is an exponentially better defender.
My final figure is what they both did in the play-offs. JaVale did not necessarily kill it, he did not shoot well, but he showed me a lot more in 7 games than DeAndre did in his 11. Andrew Bynum got the better of McGee, but at the very least McGee fought back at times. In game 5, McGee finished with 21 and 14, honestly getting the better of Bynum. Now, it is not going to happen consistently (like the other 6 games), but that showed me something. Ultimately, McGee averaged 8.6 ppg and 9.6 rpg in 25.9 mpg in that Laker series.
DeAndre Jordan was a relative non-factor in the post-season for the Clips. 4.5 and 5.3 in 22.6 mpg, getting lit by Marc Gasol and Tim Duncan while putting up little resistance. I know I tend to be hard on DeAndre Jordan and he does indeed have attributes that could make him a more than serviceable center. As of yet, he has not come close to putting it together. McGee, for all of his bloopers, has showed at least a bit of something. Have heard he is actually pretty coachable and seems to love basketball. Not that Jordan isn't, just feel McGee has been much better in his brief career, despite Jordan's high FG% on dunks.
Jordan has alot of "ifs" and "maybes" about him. My point is that on defense, while they could both use work, they change and block shots (McGee 2.2/Jordan 2). So they're even on defense but the seperation is on offense where McGee can get you something on his own while Jordan scores mostly on oops, putbacks, and catch and finish. Also I haven't seen any progression from Jordan in 4 years on offense.
im alittle bias cuz he will play for the phillippine team gilas 3.0 and in terms of skills also his offense is much better than deandre jordan's
I'll take javale. Both are boneheads but javale can actually stay on the floor for longer than 20 minutes as Jordan will jump at any pumpfake. Both are crazy athletic and talented, they just lack basketball iq and fundamentals
I think Jordan has actually developed a little more emotionally than McGee has since coming into the league. I certainly think McGee is the better player now, but I'm going with Jordan going forward. He's never going to have the offensive tools McGee does, but i think he'll be a more valuable player when it comes to winning.
Tortise vs. Hare
Jordan has steadily improved every year while McGee has been all over the place. I'm going against the grain on this and saying Jordan will be a more impactful player in 3 years. He's getting to the point he can hit a free throw too. He's improved his FT shooting 7% in each of the past 3 years and I think he's going to be close to a 10 and 10 guy next season.
In the play-offs than Jordan was. I am cool with you seeing something in Jordan and maybe seeing a lack of something in McGee, just feel that Jordan's "improvement" was totally nullified in the play-offs last year. He shot 33.3% from the line in 11 games (8-24). Yikes. McGee shot a still poor 53.8%, just still was a lot more of a factor in helping his team. I suppose Jordan can come back this year with a fire lit under his butt and should improve, just would not rule out McGee doing the same. Felt like McGee definitely took steps forward last year, particularly when he went to Denver.
That is true, Jordan did not show up during the playoffs last season, but I really do like his clip of overall improvement. I didn't have great hopes for him and never thought he'd be a 20/10 guy because he could hit the 12' mark, but I have noticed a slow and steady progression going forward.
I just think McGee is probably one of the lowest IQ players in the league. He could be Ralph Sampson if he had a grasp on the game. I've also followed him pretty closely over the years. Initially, I attributed his laspes on the inconsistancy involved with many young players as they adjust to the league. In his case, they never went away. He just has the natural gifts to be a moderatly productive center who blows up now and again ; however, I think Jordan will develop into a monster on the offensive glass, who yes, mostly dunks, but also hauls down 11 boards per game and doesn't try to bring the ball up the court as a center or run down on defense when his team has the ball. That's crap middle schoolers do and this is a 4 year NBA vet.
I honestly get the intrigue that follows McGee, he's really a unique prospect. A guy I thought would blow up, but that was 2 years ago, and I've given up hope. I'm taking the slow and steady dunk machine who could maybe a giant version of Dale Davis someday.
^^ that dunk was insane.
I'll take JaVale. He actually played pretty well in flashes against the Lakers in the playoffs. Showed some nice moves in the post, and we all know how he can block shots and his athleticism. Comes down to potential to me, and McGee has loads more than Jordan
For me, it's like choosing between miracle whip and mayonnaise... Neither is very good.
mcgee now and 10 yrs later
^^^LMAO @ IndianaBasketball.. refering to DeAndre & JaVale as Mayo & Miracle Whip...But That should be the example used for Meyers Leonard & Tyler Zeller....
Both aren't very good, but I'll take McGee because he has more upside. McGee is still fairly raw offensively, but he's more skilled than DeAndre. More post moves and better handle. DeAndre has no offensive game past 3 ft. The problem w/ McGee on offense is that he doesn't know his limitations. He's a blackhole that won't pass it back out when he gets it in the post, and can attempt some awkward looking moves when he gets it in the paint. The unniest moments are when he does his PG impressions trying to bring the ball up the court, which usually result in turnovers. On defense, both have the same problems - questionabble help and PnR defense, bit on too many pump fakes, and have low defensive integrity.
I actually have to agree with Joe on this one, McGee is better now, but I just cant give him the crown for 5 years just because he played the right way in 7 games. Jordan had high expectations and didn;'t come through I agree, but this was his first playoffs. Can't just say that Mcgee has gotten so much better because he played good in playoffs but say that Jordan didn't just because he had a bad playoff series against 2 very smart offensive players. While i think Bynum is a terrific center, he too is a blackhole who has proven time and time again that he at times has trouble against players of his own size as he refuses to pass back out and simply pounds the ball making him an easier cover. Just as Kendrick Perkins said, Duncan is far tougher to guard than Bynum because Duncan plays smart.
Honestly though, I like Indiana's answer best.