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John Wall set to Announce at Jordan game.(Kentucky is likely the winner)

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John Wall set to Announce at Jordan game.(Kentucky is likely the winner)

Rivals.com has state he is set to announce before the game..

It has come down to Duke Kentucky UNC.

And sources close to him say he is headed to Kentucky to be apart of the dribble drive offense.

What you guys think? right choice?


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If it is indeed Kentucky

If it is indeed Kentucky that'd be his best bet to be a one-and-done player... Duke would limit his talents so he stays a bit longer as well as NC but he'd still make an impact otherwise but UK he'd play a lot and the team has the talent to go far, especially if Patrick Patterson and Jodie Meeks comes back...

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Could you provide a link,

Could you provide a link, OP?

I'm a Rivals Premium member and this is nowhere on their site...

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Wall

I think he is going to be a one and done player anywhere he goes barring a major injury next season, he's just such a special talent

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this is completely unsubstantiated

I havent heard this from anywhere, and also question where it comes from. I have a gut feeling Carolina wins this one, I really do. Especially announcing at the Jordan Game, that would be too perfect for him to say he is gonna play at Carolina.

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yea

If J Wall was to announce that at Jordan Game wow.......... But if he decides to go to kentucky I believe they shuld go undefeated next year wif tha boatload of talent they have

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Duke and/or UNC would be

Duke and/or UNC would be ideal for him...both would contend for national championships...I've been hearing he wants to stay close to home.

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Starting 5

Starting 5 of Kentucky maybe looks like:
1. John Wall
2. Jodie Meeks (if he stay)
3.??Perry Stevenson(he is PF but they don't have good SF)
4. Pat Patterson( if he stay)
5. DeMarcus Cousins ( Daniel Orton)

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Any proof for this statement?

Link?

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Kentucky would NOT go undefeated

Even if Jodie Meeks and Patterson were to stay, Ive heard Daniel Orton wants a release from his LOI. They arent loaded, they would have no Bench, and not enough ball to go around. All of those guys are scorers, who would play d and rebound? This isn't to say they wont be good or even contenders, but they arent even close to as good on paper as carolina was this year and they were far from undefeated. Freshman led teams dont go undefeated.

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That would be a nice squad

That would be a nice squad though. I mean Calipari has done great with lesser talent so it will be interesting.

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I agree canesboy...teams

I agree canesboy...teams don't go from being knocked out in the NIT to going undefeated. It takes years to develop chemistry within a team...look at UNC. Lawson/Ellington/Green/Thompson/Hansbrough has practically been playing with each other for the last three years. I don't think he's going to UNC simply because they already have Drew, Strickland, and Mcdonald. RoyW is trying to drive Wall AWAY from Coach K for obvious reasons. If Henderson comes back, they return all 5 starters from a team that won the ACC championship. A lineup of Wall (top pick 2010), EWilliams (solid wing player), Henderson (top 5 pick 2010), Singler (lottery pick) and probably Lance Thomas would be preseason #1 or #2 along with Kansas. Then their bench would have former starters Nolan Smith and Jon Scheyer as well as the Plumlees and Ryan Kelly. Roy Williams is a Hall of Famer for a reason...he DOESN'T want to see that team in Durham next year.

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aio, I dont see wall at duke

For the same reason you said he wont go to carolina. I dont see what the Issue is at UNC for Wall, Larry Drew showed very little this year, and Wall would be the starting Pg from the get go unquestioned. Strickland and Mcdonald are freshman wings, that has nothing to do with the pg position. Wall wants to play right away and shine so he can be the top pick. At Duke, there roster at his position is SWAMPED. He would have to share time with Elliot Williams, Nolan Smith, and and Scheyer who all play the point some, not to mention sharing shots with all of thier shooters. At carolina, they dont have any real shooters or point guards comming back, except drew who isnt ready for the pressure of bieng the leader of Carolina yet. What they have coming back is defensive guys like Ginyard, and thier unbelievable length in the post. Think about this lineup for a second with wall and tell me you have ever seen a longer one, assuming they get him of course which is a large assumption but follow me Wall 6'3 Ginyard 6'5 John Henson 6'10 Tyler Zeller 7' Ed Davis .
To me it seems like a no brainer for wall to go to carolina, where he could be the face of a whole new contender, and get those Jordan contacts, leave with a tourney run and diminished character concerns, be top pick with unreal endorsements from Nike and Jordan.

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dont believe it

i been lookin everywhere and i havent seen anything saying wall is goin to kentucky or even leaning toward kentucky. I think wherever he goes he goin to leave after 1 year. whether duke carolina or whoever. i think even if he has an ok year he will leave

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canesboy....drew's will be a

canesboy....drew's will be a solid point and IMHO he's a better fit for Roy Williams offense as a soph than Wall as a freshman. Drew's smart, heady, makes good decisions and will be a solid facilitator for Henson/Thompson/Davis. He's the Jacque Vaughn type....Roy Williams prefers these types of point guards. Wall is nothing like this. He's a scoring pg and Roy Williams has NEVER had this type of point guard before. He prefers point guards who stay in his system for multiple years which Wall won't be doing. Duke have NO point guards on their roster and Coach K loves scoring point guards (Will Avery and Jason Williams). He's a better fit for Duke like Lawson is the perfect for UNC.

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Many issues...

John Wall has not said where he is going...looked rivals.com up and down and nothin has been said...Kentucky would be a scary team with Wall...As to the post earlier PERRY STEVENSON would not play 3...It would be either darius miller or nolan dennis if he comes...Second of all the guy who said, "who would play d and rebound?"...thats what Patterson does, he is a beast and plays with intensity that I think cousins would feed off of...Orton is not coming to UK, just a matter of time before he releases...They might not go undefeated but they would have the skill level to win a championship...As far as wall going to UNC...He would immediately start over LARRYD...He is not ready to run this team...Why do you think Roy is so insistent on getting Wall now? LarryD is a backup, thats it...With duke, I think gerald henderson is leaving, if he came back they would be very good but their starting 5 would include wall, SCHEYER, henderson, singler and Thomas...How does the guy earlier not have scheyer in the starting 5??? He is a veteran and is perfect for the duke system, better than elliot williams...

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Duke

I think Duke is a very good option for Wall. Although all of their guards can handle the ball, none of them is a true point. Scheyer was at the point because of his decision making, not because he's a great ball handler. Williams and Smith are both 2 guards. Henderson is going to strike while the iron is hot, I really can't see him back at Duke next year. We all know that Coach K is not a big fan of one-and-doners but at some point he's going to realize that if he wants PREMIUM talent he might have to give into that. Duke has good outside shooters that would compliment him nicely.

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I think it is either Kentucky or Carolina

I just can't help but see the holes with Wall and Duke moreso than Kentucky and Carolina. Its not often that Duke steals a Carolina kid from Carolina. They seem to deep in the back court, and they play much more half court, jump shot oriented ball which is really really really not Wall's strong suit. Williams and Calipari's systems are perfect for his game. I heard he failed 10th grade which is why he is a 5th year. I strongly question wether or not he is willing to put up with Duke's academic regimen, knowing full well he isn't graduating. And he also doesn't want to leave his Ill mother i have heard in numerous reports, and UNC isn't far from his home. There is nobody better than Roy at getting kids to the NBA, both one and done and over the years. Look at Marvin Williams and Brandan Wright, both of them were way overpicked in the top 10 under his guidance. Also Raymond Felton and now Lawson, pg's without Ideal NBA measurables, both look like lottery picks. He hasnt got the scholly yet from Carolina, Ellington has it right now so I think they are waiting for him to declare to give it. I've heard Miami is in it, but they just dont have the recources to compete i dont think. I really really expect that if he gets the offer from the Tar Heels, he will accept.

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Duke and style of play

Canesboy6,

Just one aspect of your post that I thought warranted comment. The idea that Duke plays - and has always played - a slow it down, half-court style is just flat-out wrong. Do people really not remember beyond the last 4 years? Back when K had the horses, and a point guard to push the pace they've lead the nation in scoring on numerous occasions. In fact, I think their '01 team played more possessions per game (read: played faster) than many of these vaunted Carolina teams.

Paulus was a bust, and they haven't had the athleticism that they've typically had in the past. Are you telling me this team wouldn't run - Wall, Nolan Smith, Elliot Williams, Singler, and Plumlee or Lance Thomas? 'Cause you'd be wrong if you said that team would play slow.

Both Kentucky and Carolina are good fits, as you discussed above. Many of your other points are good ones. He seems made for Calipari's dribble motion offense, and Roy may very well get him because I think he grew up a Carolina fan, and Roy has a great product to sell.

He should play at the 'Cuse if Flynn goes (note: just wishful thinking, I know it's not an option)

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Read this recent Wall

Read this recent Wall interview....

http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/4/10/829755/john-wall-the-future

If you don't want to open the link I'll summarize it. He was asked what school he would like to attend. He said he wanted to go to a team that needs a point guard. He's trying to be the missing piece on a team surrounded with veterans. How is that NOT Duke especially if all 5 starters return next year?

More quotes:

"... I'm about to cry knowing where I'm at right now. A couple of years ago I had a bad 'tude and never thought I was going to make it this far.

I came to playing with D 1 sports and my other coach, Tony Edwards, changed everything around for me. Got me seriously involved into basketball."

The media would eat this up if he came to duke..."troubled youth from a tough background turns his life around and helps Coach K win a 4th title...."

They asked him if winning a championship affect his decision on UNC, here's how he answered...

"Nah, not really, you know they haven't really started recruiting me that hard yet. [It's nice] just to see them have so many good players come out lately.

But the state of Carolina, Chris Paul I think was the last great player to come out. For them [UNC] to bring it back, to get the state back on this map, and then for me to come up as the player I am, it means a lot."

So a guy who grew up in North Carolina and acknowledges one of the greatest pg's to ever come out of the state would go to Kentucky? Again I don't understand.

More facts about Coach K:

Coach K has produced 14 NBA Draft Lottery picks, four more than any coach in history. Additionally, Coach K's 20 first-round NBA Draft picks are second all-time. So COACH K does a better job of getting players to the NBA than Roy Williams.

Roy Williams' players:

Jacque Vaughn (career back up)
Greg Osturtag (nothing)
Paul Pierce (beast)
Raef Lafrenz (done nothing)
Kirk Hinrich (had a couple of good years)
Drew Gooden (backup)
Wayne Simeon (bust)
Raymond Felton (not really doing much...still can't shoot)
Rashad Mccants (major dissappointment)
Sean May (nothing)
Marvin Williams (The Hawks still wish they drafted Chris Paul)
Brandon Wright (nothing so far)

Coach K:

Grant Hill (great career, gold medalist)
Elton Brand (18pts 10 reb guy)
Carlos Boozer (20 pt 10 reb the last two years, USA Redeem Team)
Corey Maggette (19 pts a game last year)
Chris Duhon (10th in league in assists)
Luol Deng (solid player)
Mike Dunleavy (19 points a game last year)
Shane Battier (solid starter)
Dahntey Jones (another solid starter)

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aio your arguement is weak

aio your arguement is weak only an idiot would believe your arguement. Lets talk about getting players to the nba. Why do you leave out: Trajon Langdon, William Avery, Josh McRoberts, Shelden Williams, JJ Redick, Shavlik Randolph, Chris Burgess, Bobby Hurley, Christian Laettner, Demarcus Nelson, etc. in your arguement? How come solid players from UNC do nothings, but solid players from Duke are solid. Your bias in your arguement is just astounding.

Please next time paint the whole picture before making an arguement you think is smart.

As for John Wall expect him to end up at UNC if/when they offer. It will come down to the 3 instate schools according to my source with UNC in the lead. My source could be wrong this recruitment is crazy.

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ncballer...argument not

ncballer...argument not arguEment....

And I was talking about Roy Williams' players in the league...not UNC, but I could talk about UNC too...

Eric Montross (nothing)
Serge Zwicker (nothing)
Ed Cota (nothing)
Joe Forte (nothing)
Brendan Haywood (average career)
Raymond Felton (terrible shooter)
Rashad Mccants (done nothing)
Sean May (hurt)
Brandan Wright (should have never gone pro)
Tyler Hansbrough (going to be garbage)
Wayne Ellington (see Mccants and Forte)
Lawson (worse prospect than Felton)

Your list of past Dukies (mcroberts, shavlick, etc) are garbage, I'll admit that...but can you at least admit that Joe Forte, Mccants have also done nothing too? There are just as many busts at UNC as there at Duke which is my only point. If you can't admit that then you're just a homer.

As far as Wall goes, I've stopped believing in "sources" who say where he's going. I've heard these same sources say Kentucky was the leader. From the interviews that I've been reading I've concluded that he has no leader.

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I apologize for my hostility

I apologize for my hostility most of that was motivated due to the troubles of getting on a plane. It has gotten annoying to catch flights.

I am more than willing to admit that. I am not a homer. I agree with most of your list with the exception of Wright, Ellington, and Lawson. How anyone could say Wright should have never gone pro is beyond me IMHO. If you are a top 10 pick you go pro regardless if you are ready or not. Wright is making more money than I (and probably you, I am not sure haha) will ever dream of. He has shown a ton of promise and plays for a stubborn coach, IMHO he is too early to judge anyway because it was known it was going to take a while for him to tap into his potential.

Ellington has McCants' and Forte's game, but not their headcase/bad teammate baggage. I am of the belief that Forte and McCants had well more than enough talent to succeed in the NBA if their heads were in the right places. If Ellington can just focus on what he does best and stays out of trouble, I think he will have a solid NBA career.

Lawson>>>>>Felton IMHO. Lawson can shoot better, takes care of the ball better, and runs his halfcourt sets better. It baffles me that Chris Paul, Raymond Felton, Mike Conley, etc. were all considered top 5 picks and Lawson isn't when you can easily argue he is more ready than all 3 coming out (except for maybe Paul).

I agree about Hansbrough though he doesn't have the athleticism to make it in the NBA. Even as a UNC fan when I see him make a move I think to myself, wow KG would send the ball to the other side of the court.

I would argue that you can put Felton in the solid player category but thats another story haha.

My point is just because someone went to a certain school doesn't mean they are automatically banished from having a good NBA career. John Wall will end up being a good NBA player no matter what school he goes to as long as he doesn't get injured IMHO.

Again sorry for the hostility.

Like you said in another thread recruits lie through their teeth all the time. It will be interesting to see how this John Wall fiasco unfolds.

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