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- Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 11:57am #13487
TONYDABOSS77ParticipantA few days ago i posted something about John Wall && Evan Turner . I said that Turner is who I would pick .Since then , I’ve been wondering && researching (comparisons , playing styles , etc) . && I admit that I made the wrong decision . John Wall is just too special to pass up on . Everyone is throwing out comparisons left && right . He’s Jason Kidd meets Dwyane Wade . He has gobs && gobs of potential && is really good . So good , that he woulda been the #1 pick over Blake Griffin && Derrick Rose .
What are your comparisons for him ?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:04pm #262945
UKWildcat_11ParticipantNice job, my man.
That’s what I’ve been saying, a hybrid of Kidd and Wade.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:06pm #262948
sheltwon3ParticipantHonestly there is no one player that you can describe Wall but being that Rose who has similiar explosiveness and size just got drafted and is getting where ever he wants on the basketball coach on the NBA his name pops up but Wall is said to be a better shooter. I have not watched him enough to say that but I will say he does seem to shoot the ball more confidently than Rose has done in the past. Also Wall is possibly his full 6’4″ height where Rose was only 6’2″ and change and Walls arms are like Rondo’s. When Wall comes to the NBA game Wow. I can just see him putting up ridiculous numbers and considering how this draft surprisingly to some has set a pretty high bar for their points and Griffin will be a rookie next year, he will will have to do something big to get that rookie of the year and earn his hype and i believe he will.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:12pm #262953
SlimParticipantsmh
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:17pm #262956
esperanzafleet69Participantyeah i remember you said evan turner would average 28 8 and 9…. most ridiculous thing ive ever heard…
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:19pm #262957
quinceyhodgeswall is also possible the same height or a lil shorter then rose as well. i think he is better then what rose was at the same stage because hes a better shooter and set up man as well as a much better defender. hes not the passer kidd was as a freshman though but he’s close. same with the defense. and he gets in the lane like wade which i good but also bad because he will need to get bigger if hes gonna be driving that much because injuries will start to mount up
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:21pm #262958
TONYDABOSS77Participanti didn’t say that turner would average 28 8 9 . i said that he has the POTENTiAL .
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:24pm #262960
quinceyhodgesthat word potential is used wayy to much and exgerrated too much. i dont think he even has the potential to do that. he hasnt shown that he has that kind of potential to do that on a nba level
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:31pm #262966
TONYDABOSS77Participantyea you “think” . idk . && you don’t know . we only think .
but here’s what i think . . . by 2012 john wall will be the best pg in the nba .
&& here’s what i knw . neither kobe , nor lebron , nor wade , or anyone will be better than jordan til they show GREATNESS (not dominance) && WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS at 36 !!!!
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:34pm #262969
JNixonParticipantJohn Wall reminds me of Dwyane Wade. That’s always been my comparison and I’m sticking to it.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:35pm #262970
TONYDABOSS77Participantas am i.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:35pm #262971
quinceyhodgesif thats the case then i think luke harangody will be the leauge scoring champ..he has the potential to. people have potential but its within reason
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:40pm #262973
TONYDABOSS77Participantso you don’t think evan turner has a good enough skill set to possibly average 28 8 9 ????
under any circumstances .
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:45pm #262977
quinceyhodgesthose numbers…nope..that would mean he has lebron potential which i dont think he has. that means he has bigger potential then magic ever had which i dont think he has. that means he has close to oscar robinson potential which i dont think he has. thats hall of fame/mentioned as one of the best ever potential.?..you really think he has that type of potential?..if so thats cool but i dont think he does. how many players in the history have ever put up those type of numbers?.off the top of my head i can just think of one which was oscar
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:54pm #262984
TONYDABOSS77Participantcomparing him to them is well beyond reason .
&& just because he doesn’t show that potential doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have it . && back in 03 some people never thought that lebron would be this good . && oscar played in a significantly lesser talented league . magic never had that oppurtunity (kareem) . && no i’m not comparing him to them (just explaining) . && no . now that i’ve reviewed my statement i don’t believe he could do that . 22 7 7 is more reasonable .
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:54pm #262985
joecheck88Participanti like numbers and potential and comparisons so here i go. i think turner is like a a mix between b roy and tmac. he does alot of things like both he can use the midrange game ala b roy but can drive ala tmac. i dont think he is a great scorer in the league but here are the numbers i think he can achieve(like not in the same season but career highs) 23ppg 7rpg and 5apg. wall i have a tough time figuring out. if i had a gut instinct i would say like baron davis except a little taller and skinnier. i think his numbers could be like 21ppg 5rpg and 9apg but i think he can be a good on ball defender and get like 2 or 3 steals a game.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:59pm #262992
quinceyhodgesim not comparing him to them im saying those stats of 28 8 9 are unreasonable and was using them as examples because they had more potential but couldnt put up those numbers so if he can put those numbers up that would mean he has more potential then those who couldnt do it. if lebron cant put up those numbers then theres no way i think turner can do it. i think people get a lil out of hand because of what a person does in college. yeah hes had some 10 ast games but on the whole hes putting up 5.8ast and 4.0 turnovers… that ast to turnover ration isnt good and no team is gonna want a guy running there pg position with 9ast followed by 7 turnovers
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 12:59pm #262988
M-DYMESParticipantHow are there being comparisons made of Wall (who hasn’t played a single NBA game) to a hybrid of J-Kidd (HOF) and Dwayne Wade (Probably HOF)? A little premature IMO.
Its is very rare to have a player develop into a HOF, lets alone a hybrid between 2 HOFs.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 1:00pm #262993
UKWildcat_11ParticipantWe’re comparing his playing style to their styles.
And I’ve got a question. It seems like there’s only a couple players every year that we say has possible All-Star potential. How can we ever tell who is the next MJ, Kobe, or Lebron?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 1:02pm #262995
TONYDABOSS77Participant&& that does not mean he has more potential . it justs means he accomplished it && they didn’t . case closed man . && well you wouldn’t know because you’re not apart of a team .
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 1:11pm #262999
dolla130Participantwell since wall was crowned the number 1 pick comming out of high school he has no choice but to be good right, people use this word potential way to much instead of goin off what we know now thats why a lot of these coaches get fired because these dumb GM’S put good coaches with losing teams fate in the the hands of a 19-22 yr old potential project and i dont think depending on the team wall goes number one he isnt that good of a player to go else where with the pick like lebron d howard, demarcus cousins or evan turner could easily go #1
my predictions for 2012
top 10 pgs in the league
1.Deron Williams
2.Derrick Rose
3.Chris Paul
4. Russell Westbrook
5.Tyreke Evans
6.Brandon jennings
7.Rajon Rondo
8.John wall if he lives up to the lebron sized hype
9.Steph curry
10.Devin harris
top 3 SG’s
1.Dwayne wade
2.Kobe bryant can fall lower but i dont see anyone being better then him then wade
3.Brandon roytop 3 SF’s
1.Lebron James
2.Carmelo Anthony
3.Kevin durant0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 2:22pm #263033
UKWildcat_11ParticipantTop 10 PGs
1) Chris Paul
2) Deron Williams
3) John Wall
4) Russell Westbrook
5) Derrick Rose
6) Tyreke Evans
7) Stephen Curry (Yeah I think he’s that good)
8) Brandon Jennings
9) Rajon Rondo
10) Devin HarrisTop 3 SGs
1) Dwyane Wade
2) Kobe Bryant
3) Brandon RoyTop 3 SFs
1) LeBron James (Really tempted to say Durant)
2) Kevin Durant
3) Carmelo Anthony0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 2:44pm #263036
dolla130Participanthow can u put john wall and russell westbrook ahead of d rose, russell westbrook is good but with the way the 2 are progressing rose is and will be better, wall on the other hand cant be put in the top 5 yet until we see what he does in the nba and if he can live up to the hype and imo he wont pass rondo in 2012
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 3:00pm #263042
JNixonParticipantAlot of you guys are sleeping on Rondo…He still has alot of potential and will likely be better than alot of the guys you guys have him behind.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 3:08pm #263045
NYK2010ParticipantI’m not a huge Kobe fan but he’s better than Wade still.
Also its no contest Lebron is much better than Durant who isn’t better than Mello who showed in that game against the Cavs and Lebron how great he is.
Jennings better than Rondo wow based on what?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 3:12pm #263048
UKWildcat_11ParticipantI meant in ’12, like the person above me.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 3:17pm #263051
NYK2010Participantohk, my bad.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 3:31pm #263054
kurtu17Participanti hate rondo with a passion but he is still better then Tyreke, Curry, Jennings…and he still has just as much potention any pg in the list…all those pg are young and still improving dont forget that….
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 3:52pm #263059
esperanzafleet69Participantwall wont be better than chris paul… cp3 literally has one of the best PER’s in the league, and of all time… also, as for derrick rose, check how well hes been playing lately.. in his last 15 hes been averaging like 26 and 6..
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/04/2010 - 3:53pm #263060
R-Dot-13ParticipantIf you actually think CP3 will be 3rd you are high.
PGs in 2012?
CP3
D Will
Westbrook/Rose cant decide right now
Rondo
Evans
Wall/Jennings
CurryI think thats around right.
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